Iran

[ButchPlz]

it was a joke..

When was last time you didnt whine?

Maybe 10 minutes ago. Wasn't a funny joke anyway.

 

[General Jack]

We are most definitely winning. No two ways about it. If a couple months is a forever war to the average American then our attention span has gotten to that of house fly. To the libs and the Doomers it is, but they were saying that after the first day. Most Americans are smarter than that, I used to think a lot more, but it is still the majority.

70% of the country disagree with you.

 

[KB5252]

In fairness, though, exponentially less costly in American soldier casualties. Personally, I would rather spend money on modern weaponry than lose troops (when war is needed).

Agreed, but I'd argue most of the wars we've fought, the vast majority were elective and not needed.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Agreed, but I'd argue most of the wars we've fought, the vast majority were elective and not needed.

I agree with that, as well.

 

[kiddiedoc]

70% of the country disagree with you.

That's simply not true. A majority of us disagree with the continued conflict, but we have clearly had the upper hand. How would you measure "winning a war?" Casualties? Objectives? Munitions destroyed? Air superiority?

AI:

Based on early May 2026 polling, a significant, though divided, portion of US voters (roughly 75%) believe the U.S. is winning the war with Iran, according to a Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll.

The problem for many of us is the end game question. Most agree that Iran can't have nukes. Any reasonable person would agree that the Iranian regime is evil and should be replaced. The "how?" remains to be solved.

My hope is that the majority of Iranians that oppose the oppressive, tyrannical regime are able to consolidate and take back their country. I'm just not convinced that they have the firepower and resolve to do so. If they fail, the repurcussions would be unimaginable to us.

 

[LouderVol]

That's simply not true. A majority of us disagree with the continued conflict, but we have clearly had the upper hand. How would you measure "winning a war?" Casualties? Objectives? Munitions destroyed? Air superiority?

The problem for many of us is the end game question. Most agree that Iran can't have nukes. Any reasonable person would agree that the Iranian regime is evil and should be replaced. The "how?" remains to be solved.

My hope is that the majority of Iranians that oppose the oppressive, tyrannical regime are able to consolidate and take back their country. I'm just not convinced that they have the firepower and resolve to do so. If they fail, the repurcussions would be unimaginable to us.

the only way to judge if you are winning the war is to see if you actually achieve your goals. Considering the admin has used half a dozen excuses to try and justify the war its hard to say there was ever really a goal.

 

[kiddiedoc]

the only way to judge if you are winning the war is to see if you actually achieve your goals. Considering the admin has used half a dozen excuses to try and justify the war its hard to say there was ever really a goal.

Then why were we getting daily scorecards with the number of Russian vs Ukranian planes, tanks, etc destroyed and soldiers killed, before people stopped caring about that war?

From a statistical standpoint, it's an uncontested obliteration: we've wiped out their entire air force and navy, likely set their nuclear research back for years, killed most of the existing regime leaders, etc, while incurring nearly zero loses, ourselves.

I'm not disagreeing on the purpose or necessity of the war -- as I've stated before, I don't feel like we have enough information to judge whether or not intel was solid on their nuclear progress. The regime is evil and needs to be replaced, but that shouldn't be our job, unless there is an imminent threat.

 

[rekinhavoc]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/03/14/exclusive-odonnell-implement-an-anaconda-plan-to-free-iran-once-and-for-all/

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2026/05/14/exclusive-odonnell-the-deal-is-no-deal-strangle-the-irgc-attack-the-jugular-the-revenue-that-fuels-the-iranian-terror-state/

"A strategic win for the IRGC over the Strait of Hormuz would be catastrophic, not only for America, but the balance of global power. Giving Iran control of the strait would set up the IRGC as the dominant regional power and irreversibly diminish American deterrence and influence by showing us to be an unreliable partner. It could be looked at as a green light for the CCP to take Taiwan.

In light of this, we must target their revenue streams—ruthlessly. The IRGC’s war machine runs on oil money. Every tanker, every land bridge, every port, and every laundering scheme must be neutralized. Seize the tankers. Iran’s ghost fleet and shadow fleet must be boarded, disabled, or sunk. Just as we did with Venezuelan oil transports, the U.S. and allies must interdict every vessel carrying regime crude. No exceptions. The overland routes funneling weapons, drones, and cash to Russia and beyond must be severed. Precision strikes on key rail lines, highways, and transfer hubs in northern Iran will choke off this secondary revenue artery. Attack the Caspian Sea ports. These northern export nodes are lifelines for the regime’s illicit trade. They must be rendered inoperable."

As I argued in my earlier piece, “Implement an Anaconda Plan to Free Iran Once and for All,” the air campaign and targeted strikes have been executed brilliantly, but they are not enough. A strategy to strangle Iran economically must be applied mercilessly to the mullahs’ terror empire. The IRGC’s jugular is its revenue. Cut it off, and the regime collapses. Leave it intact, and they will simply rebuild, rearm, and strike again—harder and sooner than anyone imagines.

Short-term pain is inevitable. Oil prices will spike. Markets will flinch. But the alternative—allowing a nuclear-armed terror state to continue threatening the Strait of Hormuz and Middle Eastern energy infrastructure and to dictate terms—is far worse. If the IRGC is not dealt with now, the pain will be permanent: higher energy costs forever, emboldened proxies everywhere, and an America whose deterrence is laughed at from Tehran to Beijing.

Eliminate oil laundering. Iran is moving oil across the border into Iraq and mixing it with their oil to get it on the market. Shut it down along with the financial shell games, the third-party buyers, and the client-state middlemen who help Tehran evade sanctions. Follow the money, freeze the accounts, and expose every corrupt actor propping up the terror state.

The crown jewel remains Kharg Island—the regime’s Achilles’ heel, handling up to 90 percent of Iran’s oil exports. Disable it with electromagnetic pulse (EMP) weapons or destroy its facilities, and the economic noose tightens to the breaking point. This is the Anaconda Plan in action: not endless occupation, but relentless economic strangulation until the regime can no longer breathe.

Finally, sow chaos inside the regime. Unleash American and allied Special Operations forces to empower the people by providing weapons, training, and secure communications to freedom-loving Iranians prepared to fight for their liberation. The majority of the Iranian people hate the mullahs. Economic collapse and hyperinflation already sparked massive protests before the current conflict. Now is the time to turn that rage into organized resistance. The same economic pressures that brought Iranians into the streets will now arm them at the barricades.

Target the regime’s centers of communication and destroy its ability to wield propaganda to its population and the world. Coordinate with Iran’s neighbors, who are itching for vengeance after IRGC attacks on their civilian populations and oil infrastructure. Irregular warfare must be met with irregulars. America has 250 years of expertise in this arena. Use it.

If necessary, launch commando raids to neutralize Iran’s nuclear infrastructure and enriched uranium. On par with the safety of the free world, as in the epic raids against Nazi Germany’s heavy water program in Norway, they may be necessary to finish off any remaining nuclear infrastructure and enriched uranium stockpiles, ensuring the regime never threatens the world again with nuclear weapons. Or they should be neutralized from the air via conventional or unconventional weapons – whatever it takes.

Authoritarian regimes are fragile. Without oil revenue, the IRGC becomes a zombie force—broke, isolated, and unable to pay its militias or proxies. We can afford no more half-measures. An economic stranglehold may take time to work, but it will dramatically shorten the regime’s timeline for survival. Right now, they think they can outlast the United States and its allies.

There are moments in history when allowing an evil terrorist state to exist is incompatible with a free world. This is one of them. President Trump and our allies have already taken bold steps with Operation Epic Fury. The mission must not stop at destroying missiles and ships. We must finish the IRGC: strangle its revenue, free the Iranian people, and ensure the terror state never threatens civilization again.

Handing the IRGC a strategic victory that gives them control the world’s oil fields and trade routes would be catastrophic. The deal is no deal. Attack the jugular. The future of freedom demands nothing less."

No boots on the ground.

 

[rikberry31]

70% of the country disagree with you.

Tell me how we are losing at anything right now. We are fixing to put China in their place. Did you see the gala that they laid out for the President yesterday. What happened when Obomber visited China? He was completely humiliated.
The Chinese and the world have been paying close attention to the events of the last year, and they are scared shiteless.
Xi is like WTF, let's be friends.

 

[LouderVol]

Then why were we getting daily scorecards with the number of Russian vs Ukranian planes, tanks, etc destroyed and soldiers killed, before people stopped caring about that war?

From a statistical standpoint, it's an uncontested obliteration: we've wiped out their entire air force and navy, likely set their nuclear research back for years, killed most of the existing regime leaders, etc, while incurring nearly zero loses, ourselves.

I'm not disagreeing on the purpose or necessity of the war -- as I've stated before, I don't feel like we have enough information to judge whether or not intel was solid on their nuclear progress. The regime is evil and needs to be replaced, but that shouldn't be our job, unless there is an imminent threat.

because statistics can be interesting to some. just because a statistic is posted in a war thread doesn't mean its pertinent to the victory terms of the war.

and in that case Ukraine's purpose is to survive. Iran we had self protection, help the locals, remove the regime, close the straight, open the straight, and lastly get rid of nukes that don't exist.

 

[NashVol11]

Tell me how we are losing at anything right now. We are fixing to put China in their place. Did you see the gala that they laid out for the President yesterday. What happened when Obomber visited China? He was completely humiliated.
The Chinese and the world have been paying close attention to the events of the last year, and they are scared shiteless.
Xi is like WTF, let's be friends.

That's definitely what happened

 

[PEPPERJAX]

That's definitely what happened

That reporter should have known Trump wasn't going to disclose anything of real substance after asking those questions.

 

[NashVol11]

That reporter should have known Trump wasn't going to disclose anything of real substance after asking those questions.

He's happy to say anything to media when it's Zelenskyy next to him