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n_huffhines said:
How would you even know we have? That's exactly the problem right now.

- We pulled out of a deal because we suspected they weren't keeping the spirit of the deal.
- Then they stopped following the letter of the deal.
- Yeah, they're enriching uranium, but, we have international organizations telling us to calm down about their alleged ambitions.
- Also, we have our intelligence indicating we should calm down about this.
- Then we bombed them last year because we just decided to call ******** on our own intelligence, and then we told the world we obliterated their program.
- And then a year later we have to take care of the problem again? Why, if it was "obliterated?" Why trust these incompetent liars who bomb girls schools to run ops like this?

There is no trust anywhere. The admin doesn't trust international organizations, its own intelligence, and there is no trust in the admin, because they're clearly full of ****. So IDK how the **** we ever solve this.

How do we ever get to a place where @kiddiedoc is satisfied with their nuclear ambitions? It doesn't matter what's actually happening, according to our intelligence and the international organizations...once a bunch of Zionist Republicans start expressing doubt about them keeping the agreement, where are you going to stand?
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Err on the side of caution…. Cut them before they cut you…. Kick a man when he’s down….never give a sucker an even break….persevere
 
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rikberry31 said:
More 🐂 💩. Throughout history the muslims have made a habit of invading other countries and killing anyone who wouldn't convert (infidels).
Show me where and when they have lived peaceably if left to themselves. The only time that happens is when the get their azzes kicked or the are held down.
And a again with the "they don't really mean it, it's just rhetoric" 💩🐂. They have more than proven they mean it. The only time won't try is when they don't have the means to carry it out.
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If they kill those who won't convert, how do you explain all the non-Muslims who've been living in Muslim areas for many hundreds of years?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
That is empirically untrue, unless you don't understand the Bible and the teachings of Jesus, or you have never dived into the Quran.
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You've never heard anyone use Jesus saying he didn’t come to bring peace, but a sword as rationale for attacking someone? You'd have to twist the teachings of both religions to get justification for murder and terrorism out of them, and some do.
kiddiedoc said:
On this, I agree wholeheartedly. Plenty of whackadoodles from all ways of life. However, no others that I'm aware of have the organization and massive numbers that exist in Islamic extremism. There's a difference between a nutjob westerner going on a killing spree suicide mission and a government systematically funding the training of terrorists.
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BeardedVol said:
They wouldn't have been in Europe to begin with if one Visigoth clan hadn't brought them in to attempt to overthrow another Visigoth clan.
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That is about the lamest one yet. Go back and study what the heck happened to Islam after the death of Mohammed. You and Eastern Vol need to stick with facts and stop trying to subvert a conversation with innuendos. Also if you are going to dive into the bible to support your thoughts try sticking with the New Testament, which is the law christians are suppose to live by today. The old testament is strictly history and not the way of Jesus's reasons for being on earth, and if you don't believe in him then just admit that it is a good way to conduct your life.
 
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Redleg68 said:
That is about the lamest one yet. Go back and study what the heck happened to Islam after the death of Mohammed. You and Eastern Vol need to stick with facts and stop trying to subvert a conversation with innuendos. Also if you are going to dive into the bible to support your thoughts try sticking with the New Testament, which is the law christians are suppose to live by today. The old testament is strictly history and not the way of Jesus's reasons for being on earth, and if you don't believe in him then just admit that it is a good way to conduct your life.
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What are those facts and innuendos?
I'm pretty sure Jesus said he came to uphold the Law. That doesn't sound like 'forget the O.T.'
 
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rikberry31 said:
Go for it.
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I originally stated:


MontyPython said:
Dude.

We attacked Iran because Israel attacked Iran. Period.

You can't undo facts.

What happened *after* that is irrelevant.
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Then you stated:

rikberry31 said:
Israel didn’t attack Iran first and then we hopped in after. This was well coordinated attack that had been planned for years. You’re either stupid or lying. Give up the crap that there was no plan and Trump is stupid. If you can’t see a definite strategy going all the way back to Panama you are a fool.
We now are in control o China’s oil. I guess there will be no more talk of then going after Taiwan in ‘27. We are China’s daddy now. New world order.
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As I responded, you need to work on your reading comprehension as I never said Israel attacked first and then we "hopped in".

We attacked Iran because we knew Israel was going to attack Iran and, according to Rubio:

“We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them… we would suffer higher casualties.”

So just stop with your inane bullsh*t accusations otherwise.
 
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EasternVol said:
Sorry, it was hard to see where the rant ended and the assertions started.
I never said they aren't homicidal yet you ask me to show that they aren't? Really bud, you shouldn't call others insane when you think like that.
Are they suicidal maniacs? I don't see that. How do you see it?
You think our attack was all about the uranium. I don't.
Anything else?
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Panama Canal, Venezuela, the deal with Indonesia, and Iran had as much to do with China as anything else in the grand scheme. All those operations weakened China, we now control 80 of their oil. So much for them invading Taiwan.
The past year, the world has been turned upside down and the U.S. is on top. I know that really hurts your heart.
A part of this is that Iran can not have nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles to hold the world hostage. Right now we sit in the Gulf of Oman and the Arabian Sea and stop all vessels to and from Iran and the Iranians can't do a damn thing about it. The reason we did not do this earlier was that we had to eliminate their missile and drone capabilities. Imagine if they had nuclear missiles, we would not be able to be that close.
We have neutralized Iran, but that is only a part of our mission. The Chinese are reeling and we have them over a barrel, that is the big thing.
 
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EasternVol said:
For someone that doesn't like Trump, you sure love Trump.
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For someone that is consumed with their hatred of Trump, you sure hate Trump. I look at actions and results, not words. No one can deny the things that Trump has accomplished unless they are in complete denial and delusion. I don't care what he says or if he is an egotistical, pompous ass. The dude kicks azz. Prove me wrong.
 
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EasternVol said:
If they kill those who won't convert, how do you explain all the non-Muslims who've been living in Muslim areas for many hundreds of years?
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This isn't the 7th century, no matter how they would like it to be. Still if you are in the way of their power and control if it is in their means, they will eliminate you. 40,000 Iranians murdered in January say hi.
 
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MontyPython said:
I originally stated:




Then you stated:



As I responded, you need to work on your reading comprehension as I never said Israel attacked first and then we "hopped in".

We attacked Iran because we knew Israel was going to attack Iran and, according to Rubio:

“We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them… we would suffer higher casualties.”

So just stop with your inane bullsh*t accusations otherwise.
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That's it? That is all you got. I expected better than the same old move the goalpost moving talking points.
The U.S. is calling the shots, end of story. Did Israel tell us to kick China out of the Panama Canal? Did Israel tell us to go into Venezuela and kick China out and seize their oil? Did Israel tell us to make a deal with Indonesia and secure another maritime choke point vital to the Chinese? All no. And they didn't force us to attack Iran. All these things are part of the same mission to take care of China.
The U.S. could give a shite who is in control of Iran as long as they they behave and do as they are told. We would be perfectly happy with the gay Ayatollah, as long as he sits down and shuts up. The Jews care, we don't. If they were wagging us we would not have not called for an end to the kinetic combat. We have moved on to economic combat.
 
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