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ETV said:
Unfortunately, here in this thread watching you and several others participate in a circle jerk routine for the past few weeks.
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So, I think what you describe is more akin to a bunch of people collectively celebrating something, i.e. The Trump Celebration Thread.

I wouldn't call a collective frustration with this administration's blunders in the past few months a circle jerk.

Do your beliefs feel jerked upon, as though they were surrounded by a circle of smugness?
 
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Vol8188 said:
What do you believe makes it an impossibility
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It's like 20 miles wide at its most narrow point. Iran will swarm the hell out of any naval vessel, which will overload the defensive measures, with drones and missles (shocking they have way more left then previously reported) and will sink our several hundred million dollar destroyers using a ton of $35,000 drones. It's why we have stayed out. And will continue to stay out during this blockade. Got to take the surrounding islands to ensure our ships are safe. That requires ground troops
 
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volfanhill said:
It's like 20 miles wide at its most narrow point. Iran will swarm the hell out of any naval vessel with drones and missles (shocking they have way more left then previously reported) and will sink our several hundred million dollar destroyers using a ton of $35,000 drones. It's why we have stayed out. And will continue to stay out during this blockade. Got to take the surrounding islands to ensure our ships are safe. That requires ground troops
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I don’t see that happening. We’ve had numerous naval assets in the strait of Hormuz along with Army and Air Force assets, and have very limited loses.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
So, I think what you describe is more akin to a bunch of people collectively celebrating something, i.e. The Trump Celebration Thread.

I wouldn't call a collective frustration with this administration's blunders in the past few months a circle jerk.

Do your beliefs feel jerked upon, as though they were surrounded by a circle of smugness?
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Voice your frustrations with this administration's missteps and errors as much as you want. There's more than enough material out there for you.

Actively wanting a mission failure because the "collective" oppose this administration at every turn is just odd.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I don’t see that happening. We’ve had numerous naval assets in the strait of Hormuz along with Army and Air Force assets, and have very limited loses.
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We have not had several naval assets in the strait. For the first time yesterday we had some enter to destroy mines. Iran said they made them turn back before crossing with threats. W have denied. But we have not had any sustained presence in the Strait. There is a reason Trump keeps screeching for them to open it up. If it could be done easily it would have been done
 
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ETV said:
Voice your frustrations with this administration's missteps and errors as much as you want. There's more than enough material out there for you.

Actively wanting a mission failure because the "collective" oppose this administration at every turn is just odd.
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Who has actively wanted mission failure
 
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85SugarVol said:
WTF?
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DinkinFlicka said:
Yeah now I'm curious.

@NashVol11 spill the tea.
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He came in here from another site on some "I know what you look like" and started posting pictures he apparently had saved. He keeps calling me 125 pounds when I'm about 6'0 200 though 🤷‍♂️

Was also the last one to use the "r word" on that other site before going off on someone for using it here...
 
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ETV said:
Voice your frustrations with this administration's missteps and errors as much as you want. There's more than enough material out there for you.

Actively wanting a mission failure because the "collective" oppose this administration at every turn is just odd.
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No one here wants failure. That's just a bad and lazy interpretation of valid criticism regarding a series if poor choices.

Now, if you personally define pulling the plug on this awful venture as failure, that's on you. Failure, to me, already happened in February.
 
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volfanhill said:
We have not had several naval assets in the strait. For the first time yesterday we had some enter to destroy mines. Iran said they made them turn back before crossing with threats. W have denied. But we have not had any sustained presence in the Strait. There is a reason Trump keeps screeching for them to open it up. If it could be done easily it would have been done
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My understanding is we had been using A10s, apaches, and naval assets of some type. Someone shared a great video not long ago about the use of A10s
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
No one here wants failure. That's just a bad and lazy interpretation of valid criticism regarding a series if poor choices.

Now, if you personally define pulling the plug on this awful venture as failure, that's on you. Failure, to me, already happened in February.
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Huff shared a post about why many want the US to fail (he seemed to share it because he agreed) and Monty liked the same post.

Yes, I genuinely believe they both want the US to fail.

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Vol8188 said:
Huff shared a post about why many want the US to fail (he seemed to share it because he agreed) and Monty liked the same post.

Yes, I genuinely believe they both want the US to fail.
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Let's ask them.

@n_huffhines
@MontyPython

Do you guys want the US to fail? If so, do you want the country to fail as a whole, or do you just want the current operations in Iran to fail? What does failure look like to you? At what point would it give either of you a dopamine rush?
 
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