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1979 was a long time ago, so eff Iran and their 45 years of hostility.
My guess is that those of us old enough to remember a lot of their BS are much more likely to feel this way.
My daughter was close friends with two Persian sisters in high school. Their parents fled the regime and told of what Iran was like before the revolution versus afterwards. I’m betting they’re hoping the regime gets decapitated.
 
Everyday is a chance to get better, on and off the board. I’ll keep watching the intolerant ones bash anybody who thinks a little differently and learn how to messageboard better.
The politics stuff just got hot since Trump got into it. VN used to be all about football, recruiting and basketball with a little Pub thrown in but it’s evolved to where much of social media has evolved, not in a good way.
Sanctimonious hypocrisy given that your reintroduction to the board was a post where you waxed poetic about wanting to watch a down syndrome kid that you called "silverback" beat up another poster.
 
Super model?😆😆😆😆😂😂😂😂😂😂
Careful, next he's going to bring up how she got into the country on an "Einstein visa".
I'm really not trying to take a side in this slap fight.

My money would have been on middle aged MAGA getting out their old SI swimsuit pin-up editions and a sharpie to haughtily debate super model standards, though.

@McDad , @hog88 , You guys want to help settle this?
(I'm not calling anyone a maga.......)
 
It's why some people are successfully living a happy life in beautiful places with a happy family, and some are living in rat infested high-rent, overpopulated tenement housing crying about how the police, the church, their parents, or business owners are all evil and trying to screw them over
NYC's rent is high because people want to live there. Making up this weird fantasy about how people who live there hate it is so funny and deeply insecure. If I wanted to move back to TN I could do it at any time
 
My guess is that those of us old enough to remember a lot of their BS are much more likely to feel this way.
My daughter was close friends with two Persian sisters in high school. Their parents fled the regime and told of what Iran was like before the revolution versus afterwards. I’m betting they’re hoping the regime gets decapitated.
We have posters here making strong opinions on things that they weren't even alive for.

Recent example includes a resident mod suggesting that Clinton's peace initiative for a two-state solution wasn't fair to the Palestenians, when the only two things they had to agree to that they refused was that Hamas/Hezbollah/PLO and others couldn't commit acts of terror anymore and they had to recognize Israel's right to exist. Literally the basic minimum for a normal country. But you can't expect cavemen stuck in the middle ages to obey traffic laws or function in modern society...Tale as old as time

Of course liberals in the 1990s had views that today's left would consider right-wing nazism and fascism

Kids on the left today have no idea how centrist the Dem party was up until about 2008
 
As I have stated before there are several obvious reasons why people are leaving places like NY and California in literal droves for red states, so much so that the next census will appropriate dozens and dozens of changing electoral votes from them. When the NY governor has to hold a press conference begging people to come back and pay taxes, and blue states have to try to pass "exit taxes" on people and businesses leaving, it's a pretty good indication of what people think
 
As I have stated before there are several obvious reasons why people are leaving places like NY and California in literal droves for red states, so much so that the next census will appropriate dozens and dozens of changing electoral votes from them. When the NY governor has to hold a press conference begging people to come back and pay taxes, and blue states have to try to pass "exit taxes" on people and businesses leaving, it's a pretty good indication of what people think
Pretending again like NYC metro's population isn't growing each year, despite being shown otherwise several times. NYC "dying" is conservatives' favorite fairy tale
 
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I'm really not trying to take a side in this slap fight.

My money would have been on middle aged MAGA getting out their old SI swimsuit pin-up editions and a sharpie to haughtily debate super model standards, though.

@McDad , @hog88 , You guys want to help settle this?
(I'm not calling anyone a maga.......)
We all know @McDad will vote for @hog88 in a thong.
 
Sanctimonious hypocrisy given that you're reintroduction to the board was a post where you waxed poetic about wanting to watch a down syndrome kid that you called "silverback" beat up another poster.
And I will explain again, not that you care, it stemmed from a group of young adult autistics being harassed for their flag hats and God Bless America shirts and having to call a parent to come get them. People who are innocent, undeserving of being harassed and can’t defend themselves getting harassed pisses me off and should piss off everyone, but it evidently doesn’t.
And the Down syndrome person is a 26 year old man who’s dad gave him a nickname as a child due to his incredible strength, a nickname he loves and pounds his chest after scoring a td or breaking a SO dead lift record.
I will admit to liking the idea of evil minded “protestors” messing around with the wrong person as I like to see people looking for trouble to find it. They tend to stop looking for it one way or another.
 
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s of late 2023–2025 data, California, New York, and Illinois are experiencing the highest population losses in the U.S., driven by significant domestic out-migration due to high costs of living, taxes, and pandemic-era shifts. Other states with notable declines include Louisiana, Hawaii, West Virginia, and Oregon.
Forbes +3
Key States Losing Population (2023-2025 Trends)

  • California: Lost over 170,000 residents since 2020, with significant drops in net migration, particularly to states like Texas.
  • New York: Ranked as the fastest-shrinking state in some recent periods, losing 0.5% of its population in 2023.
  • Illinois: Consistently shows high domestic out-migration, placing it among the top states losing residents.
  • Louisiana & Hawaii: Experienced high percentage losses, influenced by economic factors and, in some cases, natural disasters or high cost of living.
Primary Drivers of Population Loss
  • Domestic Migration: Residents are leaving high-tax, high-cost-of-living states (e.g., CA, NY) for more affordable states like Texas, Florida, and Tennessee.
  • Declining International Migration: A reduction in international arrivals to offset domestic departures has impacted California and New York.
  • Natural Decline: Some states are experiencing more deaths than births.

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No.

The bad decision was Donald J. Trump doing Israel's bidding from the onset.

There's a reason 47 years of American Presidents have chosen not to enter this fray, and Trump is too stupid to even listen to himself.

“Going into the Middle East is the worst decision ever made in the history of our country.”

— Donald Trump, 2019
Irrespective of how it started the decision for Iran to continue it is a huge mistake.
 
s of late 2023–2025 data, California, New York, and Illinois are experiencing the highest population losses in the U.S., driven by significant domestic out-migration due to high costs of living, taxes, and pandemic-era shifts. Other states with notable declines include Louisiana, Hawaii, West Virginia, and Oregon.
Forbes +3
Key States Losing Population (2023-2025 Trends)

  • California: Lost over 170,000 residents since 2020, with significant drops in net migration, particularly to states like Texas.
  • New York: Ranked as the fastest-shrinking state in some recent periods, losing 0.5% of its population in 2023.
  • Illinois: Consistently shows high domestic out-migration, placing it among the top states losing residents.
  • Louisiana & Hawaii: Experienced high percentage losses, influenced by economic factors and, in some cases, natural disasters or high cost of living.
Primary Drivers of Population Loss
  • Domestic Migration: Residents are leaving high-tax, high-cost-of-living states (e.g., CA, NY) for more affordable states like Texas, Florida, and Tennessee.
  • Declining International Migration: A reduction in international arrivals to offset domestic departures has impacted California and New York.
  • Natural Decline: Some states are experiencing more deaths than births.

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The difference between New York City and New York State is kicking your ass rn. I don't live in Rochester or wherever
 
I'm really not trying to take a side in this slap fight.

My money would have been on middle aged MAGA getting out their old SI swimsuit pin-up editions and a sharpie to haughtily debate super model standards, though.

@McDad , @hog88 , You guys want to help settle this?
(I'm not calling anyone a maga.......)
Cheryl Tiegs? 😯

Pauline Porzokova?
 
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The difference between New York City and New York State is kicking your ass rn. I don't live in Rochester or wherever
Already proved this wrong once

New York City’s population experienced a significant post-2020 decline, losing over 500,000 residents between April 2020 and mid-2023, largely driven by domestic out-migration. While estimates for 2024 suggested a brief stabilization or slight growth, recent data indicates the city is still well below its 2020 peak of ~8.8 million, with 8.58 million residents in July 2025.

Key Aspects of NYC Population Loss:

  • Significant Pandemic Decline: Between April 2020 and July 2022, NYC lost 468,293 residents (a 5.3% decrease), with a further loss of nearly 78,000 in 2023.
  • Total Decline Since 2020: The city's total population loss from the start of the pandemic to mid-2023 reached 546,146 residents.
  • 2024-2025 Trends: While some reports showed brief gains, the population as of July 2025 was still down significantly from 2020, with a slight dip in late 2025 caused by a drop in international migration.
  • Primary Drivers: Continued, high net domestic migration—more people moving out to other parts of the U.S. than moving in—continues to cause the decline.
  • Borough Breakdown (2022-2023): Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx were among the top four US counties for population loss in the 2022-2023 period.
  • Short-term Outlook: Despite some reports of residents returning, long-term trends suggest the city is struggling to regain its pre-pandemic population levels.
    City Journal +5


Why is New York City's population declining?


Why is New York shrinking?
New York City's population is declining primarily due to a high rate of domestic out-migration, with many residents leaving for suburbs or other states, driven by an extremely high cost of living, lack of affordable housing, and a,post-pandemic rise in remote work. This exodus is compounded by a slowing influx of international immigrants, who historically replaced those who left.

Key Reasons for NYC Population Decline:
  • High Cost of Living and Housing: The high expense of living in NYC and a scarcity of affordable housing, often cited as major factors, are driving residents, including many high-earners, to move out.
    • Domestic Out-Migration: A significant number of residents are moving to other parts of the U.S., particularly to states like Florida, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Connecticut, often seeking lower taxes or more space.
    • Remote Work Trends: The pandemic accelerated a shift towards remote work, allowing many workers to live outside the city, a trend which has continued.
    • Declining International Immigration: Traditionally, New York City has relied on international migration to offset the loss of residents moving to other parts of the country. However, a significant, decrease in international arrivals, with 66,000 in the year ending July 2025 compared to much higher levels previously, has contributed to this trend.
    • Pandemic Aftermath: While the immediate, acute phase of the pandemic is over, the initial, significant, drop in population (over 400,000) that began in 2020 has not been fully reversed.
    • Retirement and Quality of Life: Many, especially in the "Baby Boomer" generation, are leaving the city for retirement, while others cite a desire for a better quality of life elsewhere.
This combination of factors, known in demography as a trend where many of the largest, urban, counties in the US are losing population, means that despite being a major, and, still, highly desirable, economic hub, the city faces a sustained challenge in maintaining its population levels





 

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Back to Iran I wish we hadn’t gotten involved unless a quick result was Iranian civilians and new leaders in a position of power, which was probably a pipe dream.
Iran not cooperating now that we’ve seen what we’ve seen and what could be next for them isn’t a good decision on their part, but not unexpected from a terrorist regime which would blow up the entire USA if they had the capability. I don’t view “Death to America” as words with no meaning and deem them more of a threat.
 
Already proved this wrong once

New York City’s population experienced a significant post-2020 decline, losing over 500,000 residents between April 2020 and mid-2023, largely driven by domestic out-migration. While estimates for 2024 suggested a brief stabilization or slight growth, recent data indicates the city is still well below its 2020 peak of ~8.8 million, with 8.58 million residents in July 2025.

Key Aspects of NYC Population Loss:

  • Significant Pandemic Decline: Between April 2020 and July 2022, NYC lost 468,293 residents (a 5.3% decrease), with a further loss of nearly 78,000 in 2023.
  • Total Decline Since 2020: The city's total population loss from the start of the pandemic to mid-2023 reached 546,146 residents.
  • 2024-2025 Trends: While some reports showed brief gains, the population as of July 2025 was still down significantly from 2020, with a slight dip in late 2025 caused by a drop in international migration.
  • Primary Drivers: Continued, high net domestic migration—more people moving out to other parts of the U.S. than moving in—continues to cause the decline.
  • Borough Breakdown (2022-2023): Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx were among the top four US counties for population loss in the 2022-2023 period.
  • Short-term Outlook: Despite some reports of residents returning, long-term trends suggest the city is struggling to regain its pre-pandemic population levels.
    City Journal +5


Why is New York City's population declining?


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New York City's population is declining primarily due to a high rate of domestic out-migration, with many residents leaving for suburbs or other states, driven by an extremely high cost of living, lack of affordable housing, and a,post-pandemic rise in remote work. This exodus is compounded by a slowing influx of international immigrants, who historically replaced those who left.

Key Reasons for NYC Population Decline:
  • High Cost of Living and Housing: The high expense of living in NYC and a scarcity of affordable housing, often cited as major factors, are driving residents, including many high-earners, to move out.
    • Domestic Out-Migration: A significant number of residents are moving to other parts of the U.S., particularly to states like Florida, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Connecticut, often seeking lower taxes or more space.
    • Remote Work Trends: The pandemic accelerated a shift towards remote work, allowing many workers to live outside the city, a trend which has continued.
    • Declining International Immigration: Traditionally, New York City has relied on international migration to offset the loss of residents moving to other parts of the country. However, a significant, decrease in international arrivals, with 66,000 in the year ending July 2025 compared to much higher levels previously, has contributed to this trend.
    • Pandemic Aftermath: While the immediate, acute phase of the pandemic is over, the initial, significant, drop in population (over 400,000) that began in 2020 has not been fully reversed.
    • Retirement and Quality of Life: Many, especially in the "Baby Boomer" generation, are leaving the city for retirement, while others cite a desire for a better quality of life elsewhere.
This combination of factors, known in demography as a trend where many of the largest, urban, counties in the US are losing population, means that despite being a major, and, still, highly desirable, economic hub, the city faces a sustained challenge in maintaining its population levels





Yeah you posted this stupid ass AI summary, then saw the actual data and shut up entirely. Why do this all over again?

I live less than a block from Central Park, you can look for yourself how much "tenement housing" is in that area and how sad people are to be there, or we can talk about Iran haha

 
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Yeah you posted this stupid ass AI summary, then saw the actual data and shut up entirely. Why do this all over again


Your data showing the increase isn’t restricted to NYC. NYC has decreased in population since the pandemic. What you’re showing is the metro area that includes places in Pennsylvania for example.
 
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