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MontyPython said:
Hmmm. Who's violating the ceasefire?

Given Pakistan brokered the deal, methinks it'd be Israel.

The United States and Israel maintain that Lebanon was not included in the ceasefire; Iran and Pakistan, which has been involved in negotiations, said the temporary truce includes Lebanon.
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You never answered my question, why would Israel not respond to Hezbollah attacking them immediately after the ceasefire was announced? Should a country just accept having rockets lobbed in to their country and not respond?
 
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NashVol11 said:
There is lots of proof of the Holocaust...we even know the number of people who died. You made a claim and can't back it up because you pulled it out of your ass
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I just freaking did. I listed so many examples that I had to stop because my hands were cramping for God's sake. My God you are dense.
 
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EasternVol said:
You made the assertion. Can you back it up?
I never said they're peace loving. They don't seem more insane than our President and some of his Cabinet Secretaries and advisors, so yeah they're not right.
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Holy cow man the Iranian regime has killed 10s of 1000s of their own people and decades of terror outside of Iran.
You guys are mental.
 
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utvolpj said:
How is there no proof of the Holocaust? You use gummies or smoke?
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You missed my point. Of course there is. It is just as insane to say that Iran isn't the world's largest sponsor of terror as it is to say the Holocaust wasn't real or the Earth is flat or that we faked all those Moon landings.
 
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EasternVol said:
The reason Germany, Japan and the Confederacy surrendered is that they were defeated militarily. They didn't have enough soldiers, weapons or provisions to continue effective resistance. If you remember, several Confederate officers wanted to continue the war as a guerilla fight but Lee said no.
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But this didn't work in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. It is called Guerilla Warfare.
 
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Persian Vol said:
Im not saying we agreed to the 10 point plan. Im saying the broker between us and Israel made a statement that included Lebanon. And there wasn’t any outcry about Lebanon’s inclusion until Israel chose to aggressively bomb Lebanon.
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This is not what you were saying before. It was Hezbollah that attacked Israel immediately after the ceasefire was announced. You'll probably change that toon tomorrow. "I wasn't saying...."
 
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NashVol11 said:
I don't think we necessarily meant to agree to their 10 points, I think Trump wanted an out and a ceasefire before his deadline so he said some hasty and dumb stuff to get there. But that shouldn't make it any less of a ceasefire
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180 degree pivot, a lot different than before but let's just forget that, right?
 
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rikberry31 said:
Your actually kidding right? Like I said find some proof that Iran didn't do all those things and more. I suppose you think the Holocaust was a hoax because there is no proof.
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You say Iran is the sponsor of most of the terrorism in the world. Show your work. Where are the numbers and how do they compare to their competition? It's too bad that you've got nothing because it would be good to see such a study.
Stop building straw men and trying to deflect.
 
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rikberry31 said:
You missed my point. Of course there is. It is just as insane to say that Iran isn't the world's largest sponsor of terror as it is to say the Holocaust wasn't real or the Earth is flat or that we faked all those Moon landings.
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No it's simply not the same when it's quantifiable.

It's akin to saying UT is the best football team around
 
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EasternVol said:
You say Iran is the sponsor of most of the terrorism in the world. Show your work. Where are the numbers and how do they compare to their competition? It's too bad that you've got nothing because it would be good to see such a study.
Stop building straw men and trying to deflect.
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Proxy networks and funding: Iran provides financial, military, and logistical support to groups like Hezbollah (Lebanon), Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (Gaza), Houthis (Yemen), and various Shia militias in Iraq and Syria. Estimates include hundreds of millions annually to Hezbollah alone and over $100 million yearly to Palestinian groups in some periods. It has spent billions supporting the Assad regime and proxies.
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Does this count?
 
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EasternVol said:
You say Iran is the sponsor of most of the terrorism in the world. Show your work. Where are the numbers and how do they compare to their competition? It's too bad that you've got nothing because it would be good to see such a study.
Stop building straw men and trying to deflect.
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I'm done.
Here is your beloved AI.

The U.S. government and various international bodies have designated the Islamic Republic of Iran as the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism for several decades. Evidence for this designation is based on official intelligence, legislative findings, and documented support for numerous militant groups.

Iran utilizes its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and the elite Quds Force to provide funding, training, and weaponry to various militant groups:
U.S. Department of State (.gov) +2
  • Hezbollah: Iran reportedly provides roughly $700 million annually to the Lebanese group Hezbollah.
  • Palestinian Groups: Tehran provides approximately $100 million annually to groups such as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
  • Regional Militias: Substantial support is funneled to the Houthis in Yemen, as well as various Shiite militias in Iraq and Syria, often collectively referred to as the "Axis of Resistance".
International investigations and court rulings have linked the Iranian regime to numerous global terrorist incidents:
  • Khobar Towers Bombing (1996): A U.S. federal judge ruled that senior Iranian leadership planned and funded this attack, which killed 19 U.S. servicemen.
  • AMIA Bombing (1994): Argentine courts accused Iran of orchestrating the bombing of a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires, which killed 85 people.
  • Assassination Plots: Recent U.S. Department of Justice indictments charge Iranian agents with plotting to assassinate U.S. government officials, including a 2024 plot targeting Donald Trump.
  • Safe Haven for Al-Qaeda: Official U.S. reports and United Nations assessments have stated that Iran provides safe haven to senior al-Qaeda leaders, allowing them to operate a facilitation pipeline through the country.
This is from that right wing mouthpiece PBS.
www.pbs.org

Iran still top state sponsor of terrorism, U.S. report says

Iran continues to be the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, the Trump administration said Wednesday in a new report that also noted a decline in the number of terrorist attacks globally between 2015 and 2016.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org

Happy?
 
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rikberry31 said:
You my friend are either delusional or insane. I feel sorry for someone so out of touch with reality. That said, we can't let loonies like you go unchecked.
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So you’ve got nothing more than something you heard somewhere. That’s again unfortunate. That data would be useful since its always good to know how things really stand. Today’s world has lots of disinformation and lots of gullible people ready to eat it up.
 
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EasternVol said:
Neither did our actions outside the bounds of ‘legal’ warfare. As with most places, that just pissed them off and motivated them to kill us.
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Worked for all of the nations that did conquer the Middle East:

Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Macedon/Seleucid Empire, Rome, Arabs, Mongols, Ottomans, etc.

In fact, Islam itself is the most successful example as the deposed, converted, or eliminated all the native Middle Eastern Cultures and replaced them with Arab culture.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I'm done.
Here is your beloved AI.

The U.S. government and various international bodies have designated the Islamic Republic of Iran as the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism for several decades. Evidence for this designation is based on official intelligence, legislative findings, and documented support for numerous militant groups.

Iran utilizes its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and the elite Quds Force to provide funding, training, and weaponry to various militant groups:
U.S. Department of State (.gov) +2
  • Hezbollah: Iran reportedly provides roughly $700 million annually to the Lebanese group Hezbollah.
  • Palestinian Groups: Tehran provides approximately $100 million annually to groups such as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
  • Regional Militias: Substantial support is funneled to the Houthis in Yemen, as well as various Shiite militias in Iraq and Syria, often collectively referred to as the "Axis of Resistance".
International investigations and court rulings have linked the Iranian regime to numerous global terrorist incidents:
  • Khobar Towers Bombing (1996): A U.S. federal judge ruled that senior Iranian leadership planned and funded this attack, which killed 19 U.S. servicemen.
  • AMIA Bombing (1994): Argentine courts accused Iran of orchestrating the bombing of a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires, which killed 85 people.
  • Assassination Plots: Recent U.S. Department of Justice indictments charge Iranian agents with plotting to assassinate U.S. government officials, including a 2024 plot targeting Donald Trump.
  • Safe Haven for Al-Qaeda: Official U.S. reports and United Nations assessments have stated that Iran provides safe haven to senior al-Qaeda leaders, allowing them to operate a facilitation pipeline through the country.
This is from that right wing mouthpiece PBS.
www.pbs.org

Iran still top state sponsor of terrorism, U.S. report says

Iran continues to be the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, the Trump administration said Wednesday in a new report that also noted a decline in the number of terrorist attacks globally between 2015 and 2016.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org

Happy?
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That’s not real comparative data over time for known acts as of terror, is it?
 
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volbound1700 said:
Worked for all of the nations that did conquer the Middle East:

Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Macedon/Seleucid Empire, Rome, Arabs, Mongols, Ottomans, etc.

In fact, Islam itself is the most successful example as the deposed, converted, or eliminated all the native Middle Eastern Cultures and replaced them with Arab culture.
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They followed fairly progressive rules of warfare though, so that doesn’t help your argument. And it’s hardly modern.
 
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EasternVol said:
That’s not real comparative data over time for known acts as of terror, is it?
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Is the earth flat? Did we fake the moon landings. Are there more than 2 genders? Is gravity real? I just read and article that said there is no data or studies that refuting pigs not being able to fly.
Why don't just keep on moving the goalposts.
If you asked me for $20 and I gave you a $20 bill, you would say I didn't because you wanted it in quarters.
 
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