Iran

[BeardedVol]

Likely far less deaths from a power outage than from their own regime this year

MAGA to English Translation: "Can't be killed by the IGRC, if we kill you first."

 

[ButchPlz]

MAGA to English Translation: "Can't be killed by the IGRC, if we kill you first."

Like I said before, these nutjobs are so sick they want the blood on their own hands. It's like a ritual.

 

[rikberry31]

Obviously it was WW2. I'm not sure why you think 80 years of No congressional war declaration somehow helps your argument here.

How does it help your argument that this war is to be treated unlike any other since FDR? Is this the only thing that has changed since then? Many years ago they distinguished between "making" war and "declaring" war. Congress declares war, the President can make war. The War Powers Act limited the President's power, he only has 60 days to make war before he needs the consent of Congress. That being said, Congress could shut of the money anytime they want.

 

[BeardedVol]

Like I said before, these nutjobs are so sick they want the blood on their own hands. It's like a ritual.

There will always be a portion of US society, that just needs the thinnest veneer of plausibility to support any and all military actions by our government.

 

[rikberry31]

9/11? The terrorist attack fomented by the Saudis, our purported allies in whose interest we're at war with Iran?

Follow the money, Iran has backed most all terrorism in the last 40 years.

 

[Vol8188]

**** off, dude. You won't even argue that there was an imminent threat. You just think I'm not going to answer because I don't usually see your posts, and you can slip in some descent here. You don't care about the truth. You care about what you can argue to play defense for the stupidest, most reckless admin imaginable.

There’s been a continuous threat. Iran was responsible for the death of US military members recent as 2024 and spanning back for decades.

Don’t pretend you care about the truth. If you did, you wouldn’t parrot the man who immediately went to Tucker’s podcast after leaving the admin and who was known for leaking to Candace Owens. We both know neither of those deal in truth, so spare me.

Kent said there was no imminent threat. That's the intelligence guy I referenced.

Yes, Kent, the loser who spends his time hanging out with Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. Once again, you have no concern for truth if that’s who you’re listening to.

People in the admin...how about Rubio? His reason for going to war was not that there was an imminent threat, it was that Israel was going to attack. If it was because of an imminent threat, then the secretary of state would have validated it instead of giving us what is the real reason.

The Rubio thing has been rehashed numerous times, Rubio himself has responded and stated we did not go to rule due to Israel. If your concern were truth as you proclaim, you’d probably try listening to what Rubio has actually said rather than just hearing Israel and getting all excited

There was no imminent threat. That is why Tulsi Gabbard tried to claim it's up to Trump to determine this,

Gabbard should’ve been shown the door a long time ago

and not the intelligence community. Everybody knows that's not true, and everybody knows she said this because there was no imminent threat.

Gabbard is the same level of trash as Kent and Carlson. I’m not impressed

 

[Vol8188]

MAGA to English Translation: "Can't be killed by the IGRC, if we kill you first."

Seems to be the exact opposite of what I said

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Do I need to spell things out in crayon for you?

Weak men see this as strong leadership.

I guess this is strong leadership.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I guess this is strong leadership.

Maybe you think so. I'm not the one who can't go a literal day without mentioning someone who was president a decade ago.

 

[85SugarVol]

There's a matrix of stupidity and mental instability and this dude is firmly camped in the far corner where x meets y.

He’s fascinating

 

[rikberry31]

That's not what I said and the rest of this is foolish.

Sorry you don't know history that happened before you were born.

"In 1986, two major scandals rocked the United States. On October 5, a former U.S. Marine captured by Sandinista troops in Nicaragua admitted that he was delivering military supplies to the anti-government Contra forces on behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency. Then, on November 3, Lebanese magazine Ash Shiraa reported that the United States had been secretly selling weapons to Iran in exchange for the release of American hostages."

 

[rikberry31]

Which is why your opinions are in the deep minority on a predominantly conservative forum.

This admin has repeatedly avoided and denied labeling this is a war. Pay attention.

The Korean War was called a police action. The Vietnam War was a conflict. Afghanistan and Iraq were operations. The last war as far as the government is concerned (mostly democrats by the way) was WWII.

 

[Vol8188]

Lol. We built them both up only to have to fight them later. Cool plan. Literally everybody with a brain holds this up as an example of completely failed policy. Reagan fanboys don't like to acknowledge that it happened, but sure, bro.

Lmfao our 7 shipments of weapons during Iran/Contra did not build their military. This is a joke of claim.

We provided approx 1% of what China provided Iran over the same timeframe. So much for your dedication to the truth

 

[Delmar]

Yall keep making these absurd claims. If he does the thing “it’s because he gave in to public pressure!”, if he doesn’t do the thing “TACO!”.

It’s a joke

I’m just waiting for him to back up his outlandish and imbecilic statements. Don’t just sing it, bring it. And if you aren’t, be man enough to say we made a mistake and figure out another route. Don’t keep saying you’re going to bomb them back to the Stone Age and then keep giving them two more weeks. There’s your joke.

 

[Vol8188]

I’m just waiting for him to back up his outlandish and imbecilic statements. Don’t just sing it, bring it. And if you aren’t, be man enough to say we made a mistake and figure out another route. Don’t keep saying you’re going to bomb them back to the Stone Age and then keep giving them two more weeks. There’s your joke.

Troll on, sir

 

[rikberry31]

No imminent threat. Wasn't an emergency. No war powers. His own intelligence said no imminent threat. People in his admin said no imminent threat. Congressmen who are on committees where they are the first to hear intel about imminent threats never heard there was an imminent threat.

The Germans were much less of a threat, to the U.S. Then as now we are primarily doing this for the good of other nations. That is what we do. We could live if the Strait stayed closed forever.
The Europeans can pound salt as far as I am concerned.

 

[n_huffhines]

The Germans were much less of a threat, to the U.S. Then as now we are primarily doing this for the good of other nations. That is what we do. We could live if the Strait stayed closed forever.
The Europeans can pound salt as far as I am concerned.

Germany wasn't a theoretical threat. They literally declared open war on us, their ally attacked us, and Germany was actively, successfully waging a war of invasion and conquest against the rest of the west.

Just leave history alone, bro. You're learning the wrong lessons.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Brave idiots who are brave or just idiots ready to die.

 

[rikberry31]

You realize that secondary deaths from destroying civilian infrastructure is a guarantee, and it can be in the thousands, especially if Trump's actions match his rhetoric. This isn't something where the bombs explode X number of bodies and then it's over. Hospital equpiment won't work anymore. Some people won't be able to even get to the hospital. Etc. We are telling them we are setting out to destroy their civilization. They are treating that as a real threat, tho you may not be.

Those people there have been convinced and decided to go make an attempt at protecting their civilization and the thousands that would die secondary deaths if it's destroyed.

The human shield stuff is complete ********. Yeah, Hamas shouldn't do it. Neither should we. Neither should Israel. We all do it.

You realize that he is probably not going to really take out Iran's infrastructure. I think it is probably a bluff, diversion like the rescue mission. He's going after Oil Island, that would be much more crippling to the regime.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

The Korean War was called a police action. The Vietnam War was a conflict. Afghanistan and Iraq were operations. The last war as far as the government is concerned (mostly democrats by the way) was WWII.

Exactly, so this takes us all the way back to this morning when you tried to label this as a war.

 

[rikberry31]

Germany wasn't a theoretical threat. They literally declared open war on us, their ally attacked us, and Germany was actively, successfully waging a war of invasion and conquest against the rest of the west.

Just leave history alone, bro. You're learning the wrong lessons.

Iran might not have officially declared war but they have been waging it for decades. Venezuela declare war by kill hundreds of thousands of Americans. Neither officially went to the altar but they were shacking up.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

The Germans were much less of a threat, to the U.S. Then as now we are primarily doing this for the good of other nations. That is what we do. We could live if the Strait stayed closed forever.
The Europeans can pound salt as far as I am concerned.

And this is why you shouldn't be in charge of anything except for a Costco cash register.

 

[BeardedVol]

The Germans were much less of a threat, to the U.S. Then as now we are primarily doing this for the good of other nations. That is what we do. We could live if the Strait stayed closed forever.
The Europeans can pound salt as far as I am concerned.

Definitely in the top 3 must uninformed takes on WWII that I've read on this site.

 

[rikberry31]

Sticking it to china? LOL china is gonna china and be just fine with or without us interfernce

We (Richard Nixon) made China, and they are very fragile and vulnerable.

 

[Matt2496]

The Germans were much less of a threat, to the U.S. Then as now we are primarily doing this for the good of other nations. That is what we do. We could live if the Strait stayed closed forever.
The Europeans can pound salt as far as I am concerned.

For your own sake, please stop embarrassing yourself