Iran

[ETV]

Right out of the Hamas playbook.

Who had this on their bingo card?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Nah. You've just gone too far right.

I still believe everything I did before Trump. God, family, country. My values haven't changed. DEI was an insult, the open borders were an assault on our sovereignty and Joe Biden's administration was an unmitigated disaster. If we get another Marxist administration in '28 it will take decades to recover.

NYC is the canary in the coal mine.


You were warned.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I know I’ve written a billion papers for English from copying AI

That's frightening.

 

[tvolsfan]

I still believe everything I did before Trump. God, family, country. My values haven't changed. DEI was an insult, the open borders were an assault on our sovereignty and Joe Biden's administration was an unmitigated disaster. If we get another Marxist administration in '28 it will take decades to recover.

NYC is the canary in the coal mine.


You were warned.

Marxist lol

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought our weapons hit the intended target but it was bad intel that led us to target the school.

War is messy. It's awful. And HUMINT is also fallible. This would tend to be my belief. And.... sigh.... I guess it would be better to have a nuclear terrorist state.

 

[BeardedVol]

I still believe everything I did before Trump. God, family, country. My values haven't changed. DEI was an insult, the open borders were an assault on our sovereignty and Joe Biden's administration was an unmitigated disaster. If we get another Marxist administration in '28 it will take decades to recover.

NYC is the canary in the coal mine.


You were warned.

Lol "marxists".

Trump Keeps Taking Equity Shares of Private Companies. A New GOP Bill Would Codify the Practice.

The bill would not only codify Trump's actions into law, it would establish a framework for both this and future administrations to do it too.

finance.yahoo.com

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Marxist lol

It's what the left has become.

Just watch what happens in NYC.

Even the whiner DeNiro is crying about it. LOL

 

[tvolsfan]

It's what the left has become.

Just watch what happens in NYC.

Even the whiner DeNiro is crying about it. LOL

Economically speaking, the democrats are the most right leaning 'left of center' party in the developed world. I'm not sure anyone else is even in the discussion.

 

[volfanhill]

 

[MurphyVol]

So what kind of capabilities and scientists does Iran have if their nuclear program went from completely obliterated in July to being an imminent threat 7 months later? And if we "completely obliterate" it now will we be on this cycle every 7 months?

 

[rikberry31]

Let he who hath not sinned...

We supported a puppet leader (the Shah of Iran) who was overthrown due to the will of Iranian people. Who are we to choose the leader of another country?

Imperialism is a failed concept.

Are Iranian Mullah leaders a suicidal death cult bent on bringing about the apocalypse? Are the Mullahs sane and rational human beings?

Short answer: there’s no credible evidence that Iran’s clerical leadership is a “suicidal death cult.” Most experts—across intelligence agencies, academia, and even many critics of Iran—assess them as ideological but fundamentally rational actors who prioritize regime survival.

Here’s a clearer, grounded way to think about it:

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1. Where the “apocalypse” idea comes from​

Some of Iran’s leadership belongs to Twelver Shi’a Islam, which includes belief in the return of the Mahdi (a messianic figure). That belief can sound apocalyptic to outsiders.

• However, mainstream Shi’a doctrine does not encourage humans to trigger the end times.
• Even leaders like Ali Khamenei have framed religious ideas in ways that emphasize patience, not acceleration of apocalypse.

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2. What their behavior actually shows​

If Iran’s leaders were suicidal or irrational, you’d expect reckless, self-destructive decisions. Instead, their pattern over decades suggests the opposite:

• They avoided direct war with the much stronger United States despite major tensions.
• They use proxies and indirect conflict (e.g., regional militias) to manage risk.
• They entered and complied (for a time) with the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, showing willingness to negotiate when it suited their interests.
• Their primary goal appears to be regime survival and regional influence, not self-destruction.

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3. Intelligence community consensus​

Assessments from U.S. and allied intelligence agencies have consistently concluded:

• Iran’s leadership is cost-benefit driven, even if their values differ from Western ones.
• They are deterrable—meaning they respond to threats and incentives.
• They pursue power, security, and influence in ways typical of nation-states.

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4. Why the “death cult” narrative persists​

This characterization often comes from:

• Political rhetoric, especially during periods of heightened tension
• Misinterpretation of religious language
• Fear of Iran’s support for militant groups and hostility toward countries like Israel

Those concerns are real, but they don’t require the leaders to be irrational or suicidal.

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Bottom line​

Iran’s clerical leadership is:

• Highly ideological
• Authoritarian and often aggressive regionally
• But not suicidal or eager to trigger an apocalypse

They behave much more like strategic, risk-aware actors trying to preserve and expand their power than like a group seeking mutual destruction.

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If you want, I can break down how different factions inside Iran’s leadership think (they’re not all the same), which adds another layer to this.

You’re kidding, right? They slaughtered 40,000 of their own civilians. They have murdered thousands of other people. That is Mao, Stalin, Hitler level crap. If you’re defending that you got real problems.

 

[GBO2011]

You’re kidding, right? They slaughtered 40,000 of their own civilians. They have murdered thousands of other people. That is Mao, Stalin, Hitler level crap. If you’re defending that you got real problems.

Don’t forget Pol Pot, might be worse than Mao, Stalin or Hitler

 

[RavinDave]

Who had this on their bingo card?

Said citizens being “urged” at threat of execution.

 

[rikberry31]

Don’t forget Pol Pot, might be worse than Mao, Stalin or Hitler

They probably don’t know who that is or Idi Amin. They can google it though.

 

[GBO2011]

They probably don’t know who that is or Idi Amin. They can google it though.

I would hope they know who Pol Pot is, he killed 25% of the Cambodian population. There has never been a dictator who killed that high percentage of a population, not Stalin, not Hitler, no one

 

[VAVol85]

So what kind of capabilities and scientists does Iran have if their nuclear program went from completely obliterated in July to being an imminent threat 7 months later? And if we "completely obliterate" it now will we be on this cycle every 7 months?

Yes we will. Money and determination are all that is required. The technical capabilities are available for a price and don’t change so they can be archived. The only solution is to change the minds of the leadership (unlikely) or change the leadership.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Economically speaking, the democrats are the most right leaning 'left of center' party in the developed world. I'm not sure anyone else is even in the discussion.

That's just a bizarre thing to say

 

[Redleg68]

It simply amazes me that people on here keep posting crap news from news sources that they have no clue of who it is or where in the hell they might be. Half of them are probably located in Russia, China Iran and other real trustworthy news sources. Wake up people and stop contributing to the rumors and just absolutely false information that is designed to hurt and sow discontent among the American people. Verify what the hell you are talking about and get honest with yourself.

 

[Orangeburst]

Im sure Brit pols were up in arms about war crimes when the Clinton bombed Serbian powerplants and bridges.

 

[FLVOL_79]

 

[Delmar]

It simply amazes me that people on here keep posting crap news from news sources that they have no clue of who it is or where in the hell they might be. Half of them are probably located in Russia, China Iran and other real trustworthy news sources. Wake up people and stop contributing to the rumors and just absolutely false information that is designed to hurt and sow discontent among the American people. Verify what the hell you are talking about and get honest with yourself.

That applies to both sides of the equation, right or left. I’ve gotten to where I don’t bother reading any of these “news” posts or opinion pieces from rando bloggers that the usual suspects around here post. Just not worth the time and I move right past them. It would appear that many can’t form their own thoughts and just incessantly post drivel from random idiots. Every day, all day long.

 

[Redleg68]

That applies to both sides of the equation, right or left. I’ve gotten to where I don’t bother reading any of these “news” posts or opinion pieces from rando bloggers that the usual suspects around here post. Just not worth the time and I move right past them. It would appear that many can’t form their own thoughts and just incessantly post drivel from random idiots. Every day, all day long.

Yeah, I have a tendency to go to BBC News to try and get some semblance of honesty and balance.

 

[ETV]

Economically speaking, the democrats are the most right leaning 'left of center' party in the developed world. I'm not sure anyone else is even in the discussion.

Blue dog democrats, yes. Not the current representation of what the Democrat party has become. Not even close.

 

[ButchPlz]

That applies to both sides of the equation, right or left. I’ve gotten to where I don’t bother reading any of these “news” posts or opinion pieces from rando bloggers that the usual suspects around here post. Just not worth the time and I move right past them. It would appear that many can’t form their own thoughts and just incessantly post drivel from random idiots. Every day, all day long.

My drivel is high quality stuff, straight from the source.

 

[ETV]

Good one.