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#18,777
#18,777
EasternVol said:
Let's hope the Iranian people do get a good government of their choosing. It would be the only good thing to come of this clusterflock of a foreign policy adventure.
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If the Iranian people don't raise up now they never will. This has been the most sustained and devastating attack on the regime in 47 years.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
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The guy who immediately results to insults with anything he disagrees with is the credibility expert.
This is why nobody takes you seriously
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Al Jazzera runs some slanted pieces and they're not top of the line journalsim but they're generally accurate. Just know what to look out for and they're informative. If we compare their reporting to your assertions about Israel and Palestine they come out looking like Le Monde.
Btw Qatar and Israel are on the same side in this one. Funny world, huh?
 
#18,781
#18,781
EasternVol said:
Al Jazzera runs some slanted pieces and they're not top of the line journalsim but they're generally accurate. Just know what to look out for and they're informative. If we compare their reporting to your assertions about Israel and Palestine they come out looking like Le Monde.
Btw Qatar and Israel are on the same side in this one. Funny world, huh?
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My assertions?
What would those be?
And you’re basically proving my point. Qatar charges what AJ reports based on their current needs.
And no they aren’t reliable. They are the propaganda wing of Qutar. Just like Haaretz is the propaganda wing of the opposition party in Israel, and Hayom is straight up pro Bengi propaganda in Israel.

Let’s not pretend that those things are not true because we like what they’re saying.
 
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#18,785
EasternVol said:
Iran's actions in the Strait are a very predictable result of Israel's attack on them. Without that there would be no blockage and no shortages..
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Without the US and Israel's attacks last June and now, can you make any futuristic predictions from this list?

  • November 1979: Iranian students, backed by the regime, seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran — taking 66 Americans hostage in a 444-day standoff.
  • April 1983: The Islamic Jihad, an Iran-backed terrorist group, carried out a suicide car bombing at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 17 Americans.
  • October 1983: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed 241 U.S. military personnel — including 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel — in a truck bombing at a Marine compound in Beirut.
  • March 1984: Iran-backed Islamic Jihad terrorists kidnapped CIA station chief William Buckley on his way to work in Beirut, ultimately killing him the following year.
  • September 1984: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed 23 innocent people — including two American service members — in a car bomb attack at the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut.
  • December 1984: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists hijacked Kuwait Airways Flight 221 en route to Pakistan, diverting it to Tehran — where they brutally tortured and killed two American officials.
  • June 1985: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists hijacked TWA Flight 847 on its way from Athens to Rome, torturing a U.S. Navy diver before shooting him point blank in the head and tossing his body onto the Beirut airport tarmac.
  • July 1989: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed U.S. Marine Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him the previous year while serving with a United Nations peacekeeping force in Lebanon.
  • April 1995: Iran-backed Islamic Jihad terrorists killed eight people — including one American citizen — in a car bomb attack in the Gaza Strip.
  • August 1995: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber blew up a bus in Jerusalem, killing an American and three other passengers, and wounding more than 100 others.
  • February 1996: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber blew up another bus in Jerusalem, killing three Americans and wounding three other Americans.
  • March 1996: A suicide bomber linked to the Iran-backed Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist groups killed 20 people — including two Americans — in a suicide bombing at a Tel Aviv shopping center.
  • May 1996: Iran-backed terrorists killed an American-Israeli dual citizen and wounded another American citizen in the West Bank.
  • June 1996: Iran-backed Hezbollah Al-Hijaz terrorists killed 19 U.S. Airmen and wounded nearly 500 others in a truck bombing at a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia.
  • September 1997: Iran-backed Hamas suicide bombers blew themselves up at a shopping mall in Jerusalem, killing an American-Israeli dual citizen and wounding seven other American citizens.
  • August 1998: Al-Qaeda suicide bombers, facilitated by Iran-backed Hezbollah, simultaneously bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people — including a dozen American citizens.
  • August 2001: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist blew up a Jerusalem pizzeria, killing three Americans.
  • January 2002: An Iran-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade terrorist killed an American-Israeli dual citizen in the West Bank.
  • July 2002: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist killed five Americans in a bombing at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
  • June 2003: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber killed 17 people — including an American citizen — on a bus in Jerusalem.
  • October 2003: Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees terrorists killed three U.S. diplomatic personnel in a bombing in Gaza.
  • Between 2003 and 2011: Iran-backed militias killed at least 603 U.S. troops in Iraq — “roughly one in every six American combat fatalities in Iraq.”
  • August 2003: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist blew up a bus in Jerusalem, killing five Americans and wounding one other American.
  • August 2006: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed American citizen and Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldier Michael Levin during the Second Lebanon War — the only American to die in the conflict.
  • January 2007: A dozen men affiliated with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force killed five U.S. soldiers and wounded three others in Karbala, Iraq, after disguising themselves as U.S. soldiers and entering the Provincial Joint Coordination Center.
  • March 2007: Former FBI Agent Robert Levinson disappeared in Iran, likely dying in an Iranian prison.
  • July 2014: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed two American citizens serving in the IDF.
  • October 2015: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed an American citizen and his wife in a drive-by shooting in the West Bank.
  • December 2019: Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah terrorists killed an American civilian contractor and wounded several U.S. service members in a rocket attack at K1 Air Base in Kirkuk, Iraq.
  • January 2020: 109 U.S. troops suffered traumatic brain injuries in an Iranian ballistic missile attack on the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq.
  • September 2020: U.S. intelligence indicated the Iranian regime was considering a plot to assassinate the U.S. Ambassador to South Africa.
  • February 2021: An Iran-backed militia fired a rocket at coalition forces in Erbil, Iraq, wounding a U.S. service member and four U.S. civilian contractors.
  • July 2021: Iranian-backed militias wounded two U.S. service members in a series of rocket and drone attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria.
  • September 2022: An Iranian rocket attack killed an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.
  • November 2022: An IRGC captain orchestrated the killing of an American citizen in Baghdad.
  • March 2023: An Iranian drone attack killed an American contractor and wounded five U.S. service members and another contractor in a strike on a coalition base in Syria.
  • October 2023: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed 46 Americans and kidnapped at least 12 Americans in the October 7th massacre.
  • December 2023: Iran-backed militias wounded three U.S. service members in an attack on Erbil Air Base in Iraq.
  • January 2024: Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah terrorists killed three U.S. service members and wounded more than 40 other service members in a drone attack against the Tower 22 military base in Jordan.
  • Between October 2023 and November 2024: Iran and its proxies conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounding more than 180 U.S. service members and killing three service members.
  • November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump.
  • June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Al Jazeera is a puppet and paid for by the government of Qatar.

It’s odd that the people now propping up AJ were complaining about how much Qatar are allowed to spend on US politics in another thread not long at
Strange
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Lol, so now you have a problem with the government of Qatar?
www.bbc.com

US begins preparing Qatari jet to be used as Air Force One

The aircraft - valued at $400m - is being donated by Qatar as an "unconditional gift", with any retrofitting costs being borne by the US government.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

www.whitehouse.gov

Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Secures Historic $1.2 Trillion Economic Commitment in Qatar

MAKING AMERICAN MANUFACTURING AND INNOVATION GREAT AGAIN: Today in Qatar, President Donald J. Trump signed an agreement with Qatar to generate an economic
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

Qatar Arms Sale Sidesteps GCC Crisis | Arms Control Association

www.armscontrol.org www.armscontrol.org
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
AlJazeera is straight propaganda. Anyone believing anything they say is a moron.
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Their "reporters" jumped on the back of shetty motorbikes and in the backs of trucks with Hamas on Oct 7th and rode Into Israel to record the unspeakable acts. They watched and taped the slaughter of teens at a music festival, women and children in cars, shooting up the inside of bomb shelters, rape and sexual mutilation of women, children and the elderly...home invasions etc. They went along and enjoyed it, because they are also garbage muslim terrorists. If ever they had any credibility...it is all forfeit now.
 
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#18,788
BeardedVol said:
Lol, so now you have a problem with the government of Qatar?
www.bbc.com

US begins preparing Qatari jet to be used as Air Force One

The aircraft - valued at $400m - is being donated by Qatar as an "unconditional gift", with any retrofitting costs being borne by the US government.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

www.whitehouse.gov

Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Secures Historic $1.2 Trillion Economic Commitment in Qatar

MAKING AMERICAN MANUFACTURING AND INNOVATION GREAT AGAIN: Today in Qatar, President Donald J. Trump signed an agreement with Qatar to generate an economic
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

Qatar Arms Sale Sidesteps GCC Crisis | Arms Control Association

www.armscontrol.org www.armscontrol.org
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I do. I’ve always had a problem with Qatar.
I get that you’re a partisan hack but you clearly don’t have a clue where I stand.
Qatar has way too much influence on our government
Biden, Trump, Democrats, Republicans……it doesn’t matter who you support. They’re all sold out
 
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#18,790
Orangeslice13 said:
I do. I’ve always had a problem with Qatar.
I get that you’re a partisan hack but you clearly don’t have a clue where I stand.
Qatar has way too much influence on our government
Biden, Trump, Democrats, Republicans……it doesn’t matter who you support. They’re all sold out
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Funny that you don't seem to voice that opinion when your party and president are accepting bribes from them and selling them weapons, but only when a news outlet publishes something that you disagree with.
 
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#18,791
#18,791
Orangeslice13 said:
I do. I’ve always had a problem with Qatar.
I get that you’re a partisan hack but you clearly don’t have a clue where I stand.
Qatar has way too much influence on our government
Biden, Trump, Democrats, Republicans……it doesn’t matter who you support. They’re all sold out
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Yep…. They’re all concerned about lining their own pockets and don’t care what their constituents want and need.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Funny that you don't seem to voice that opinion when your party and president are accepting bribes from them and selling them weapons, but only when a news outlet publishes something that you disagree with.
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Aaaahhh the voice of the strawman.
If you start a sentence with “you seem “ that is a clue that it’s a bull **** statement.

Which party is my party?

What exactly was posted that I disagree with?

One fact for you. The last major party candidate I voted for was Bill Clinton for his second term.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Yep…. They’re all concerned about lining their own pockets and don’t care what their constituents want and need.
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It’s funny how people act like this is any different that if Harris had won. The MIC wanted this war and it didn’t matter which side is in the presidency.

We shouldn’t be there and we shouldn’t be paying for any of this nonsense. Not the Ukraine. Not Israel. Definitely not this. Nothing
 
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CobbVol said:
Without the US and Israel's attacks last June and now, can you make any futuristic predictions from this list?

  • November 1979: Iranian students, backed by the regime, seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran — taking 66 Americans hostage in a 444-day standoff.
  • April 1983: The Islamic Jihad, an Iran-backed terrorist group, carried out a suicide car bombing at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 17 Americans.
  • October 1983: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed 241 U.S. military personnel — including 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel — in a truck bombing at a Marine compound in Beirut.
  • March 1984: Iran-backed Islamic Jihad terrorists kidnapped CIA station chief William Buckley on his way to work in Beirut, ultimately killing him the following year.
  • September 1984: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed 23 innocent people — including two American service members — in a car bomb attack at the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut.
  • December 1984: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists hijacked Kuwait Airways Flight 221 en route to Pakistan, diverting it to Tehran — where they brutally tortured and killed two American officials.
  • June 1985: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists hijacked TWA Flight 847 on its way from Athens to Rome, torturing a U.S. Navy diver before shooting him point blank in the head and tossing his body onto the Beirut airport tarmac.
  • July 1989: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed U.S. Marine Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him the previous year while serving with a United Nations peacekeeping force in Lebanon.
  • April 1995: Iran-backed Islamic Jihad terrorists killed eight people — including one American citizen — in a car bomb attack in the Gaza Strip.
  • August 1995: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber blew up a bus in Jerusalem, killing an American and three other passengers, and wounding more than 100 others.
  • February 1996: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber blew up another bus in Jerusalem, killing three Americans and wounding three other Americans.
  • March 1996: A suicide bomber linked to the Iran-backed Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist groups killed 20 people — including two Americans — in a suicide bombing at a Tel Aviv shopping center.
  • May 1996: Iran-backed terrorists killed an American-Israeli dual citizen and wounded another American citizen in the West Bank.
  • June 1996: Iran-backed Hezbollah Al-Hijaz terrorists killed 19 U.S. Airmen and wounded nearly 500 others in a truck bombing at a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia.
  • September 1997: Iran-backed Hamas suicide bombers blew themselves up at a shopping mall in Jerusalem, killing an American-Israeli dual citizen and wounding seven other American citizens.
  • August 1998: Al-Qaeda suicide bombers, facilitated by Iran-backed Hezbollah, simultaneously bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people — including a dozen American citizens.
  • August 2001: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist blew up a Jerusalem pizzeria, killing three Americans.
  • January 2002: An Iran-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade terrorist killed an American-Israeli dual citizen in the West Bank.
  • July 2002: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist killed five Americans in a bombing at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
  • June 2003: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber killed 17 people — including an American citizen — on a bus in Jerusalem.
  • October 2003: Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees terrorists killed three U.S. diplomatic personnel in a bombing in Gaza.
  • Between 2003 and 2011: Iran-backed militias killed at least 603 U.S. troops in Iraq — “roughly one in every six American combat fatalities in Iraq.”
  • August 2003: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist blew up a bus in Jerusalem, killing five Americans and wounding one other American.
  • August 2006: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed American citizen and Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldier Michael Levin during the Second Lebanon War — the only American to die in the conflict.
  • January 2007: A dozen men affiliated with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force killed five U.S. soldiers and wounded three others in Karbala, Iraq, after disguising themselves as U.S. soldiers and entering the Provincial Joint Coordination Center.
  • March 2007: Former FBI Agent Robert Levinson disappeared in Iran, likely dying in an Iranian prison.
  • July 2014: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed two American citizens serving in the IDF.
  • October 2015: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed an American citizen and his wife in a drive-by shooting in the West Bank.
  • December 2019: Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah terrorists killed an American civilian contractor and wounded several U.S. service members in a rocket attack at K1 Air Base in Kirkuk, Iraq.
  • January 2020: 109 U.S. troops suffered traumatic brain injuries in an Iranian ballistic missile attack on the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq.
  • September 2020: U.S. intelligence indicated the Iranian regime was considering a plot to assassinate the U.S. Ambassador to South Africa.
  • February 2021: An Iran-backed militia fired a rocket at coalition forces in Erbil, Iraq, wounding a U.S. service member and four U.S. civilian contractors.
  • July 2021: Iranian-backed militias wounded two U.S. service members in a series of rocket and drone attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria.
  • September 2022: An Iranian rocket attack killed an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.
  • November 2022: An IRGC captain orchestrated the killing of an American citizen in Baghdad.
  • March 2023: An Iranian drone attack killed an American contractor and wounded five U.S. service members and another contractor in a strike on a coalition base in Syria.
  • October 2023: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed 46 Americans and kidnapped at least 12 Americans in the October 7th massacre.
  • December 2023: Iran-backed militias wounded three U.S. service members in an attack on Erbil Air Base in Iraq.
  • January 2024: Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah terrorists killed three U.S. service members and wounded more than 40 other service members in a drone attack against the Tower 22 military base in Jordan.
  • Between October 2023 and November 2024: Iran and its proxies conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounding more than 180 U.S. service members and killing three service members.
  • November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump.
  • June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq.
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The oblivious and always angry left likley supported each one of these acts or protested responses. Absolutely mentally insane group of people.
 
#18,799
#18,799
NashVol11 said:
Unfortunately, as Hegseth is learning, saying things a 12-year-old might consider tough doesn't win wars
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There’s no winning wars without complete destruction and complete takeover. Nobody wants that. And what do you actually accomplish when you do. What have you actually won? It’s impossible to find any examples of where that has worked out as a positive. I have no idea what the endgame was here but I can’t think of a single thing that makes this “military action “ worth the cost in dollars or lives
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
AlJazeera is straight propaganda. Anyone believing anything they say is a moron.
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My point wasn't about the credibility of AJ. It was that the posters here biatching about it were the first to scream fake news and peddle both White House and there favorite source for news who were claiming it was Iran who blew up the school. Fix your own house before you worry about others sort of thing. And of course each of those posters, news outlets, and national "news people" have not come forward and said man we fell for some fake BS spread by the White House and this Admin.
 
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