Iran

[CagleMtnVol]

So there is no refutation that we hit about four other buildings tightly grouped where that missile hit the school. All of them hit center of the building. But somehow a jammed Iranian missile hit in the same building group at dead center of the building. sounds legit

So what? What do you want done about it? It wasn't done intentionally.

It's a shame it happened but things happen in the fog of war. You know the United States doesn't intentionally target civilians.

 

[lawgator1]

Kind of why I posted it because nobody knows what happened at the school. It sucks young kids lost their lives. It could of been the US but to think Iran wouldn’t bomb their own people or had a accidental misfire is silly

Either is possible.

With his history, I give Trump's claims about this as much credibility as I give the Iranians' claims. Zero, at the moment.

 

[n_huffhines]

I mean support the war effort throughout the war. I think the most recent time that has happened was WWII.

Well, we haven't had a "war" since Korea, which probably explains a lot of the division.

 

[Orangeslice13]

It's been weeks and you still can't tell the difference between Rupar and the " BREAKING: The EVIL LEFT is coming to turn your INNOCENT CHILDREN TRANS " types, which is very telling

I don’t think you used enough sirens for that to be an accurate representation of the post.

 

[NorthDallas40]

So what? What do you want done about it? It wasn't done intentionally.

It's a shame it happened but things happen in the fog of war. You know the United States doesn't intentionally target civilians.

All is really like to see is an acknowledgment that it was an errant missile that we fired. That’s about all we can do. You know… instead of the WH on down lying their asses off about it?

 

[Berry4Heisman14]

So what? What do you want done about it? It wasn't done intentionally.

It's a shame it happened but things happen in the fog of war. You know the United States doesn't intentionally target civilians.

I’m sure you’d feel this way too if it was your own children right? Right? “It’s a shame it happened but it happens”

 

[Berry4Heisman14]

All is really like to see is an acknowledgment that it was an errant missile that we fired. That’s about all we can do. You know… instead of the WH on down lying their asses off about it?

That would work against what they’re trying to do here which is use propaganda to get the sheep behind what they’re doing over there.

 

[EasternVol]

Due process for an illegal: At the border, they can be turned around and sent back without a hearing or warrant In the country, they can get a hearing in front of an immigration judge or in many cases a warrant from said judge.

If that's what the law says then it's due process. What part of that don't you understand?

 

[appvol]

Either is possible.

With his history, I give Trump's claims about this as much credibility as I give the Iranians' claims. Zero, at the moment.

I can understand that also but way to many people and VN experts claiming they know what happened

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Kind of why I posted it because nobody knows what happened at the school. It sucks young kids lost their lives. It could of been the US but to think Iran wouldn’t bomb their own people or had a accidental misfire is silly

Only thing we know for certain is Iran placed a school for female students adjacent/next to buildings where it held significant military infrastructure....

 

[05_never_again]

Well, we haven't had a "war" since Korea, which probably explains a lot of the division.

Korea wasn't a "war" either, supposedly (police action).

Even if Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, etc. were formally declared wars, I still think they'd be controversial regardless. With the exception of Afghanistan (the initial airstrikes/invasion, not the occupation and nation building that occurred afterwards), it was hard for the general public to understand what exactly the United States stands to gain from that conflict, or how that conflict is in the best interests of the United States. I guess the post-9/11 Afghan invasion was the last time people truly united around the flag (not Pearl Harbor), and it was because that was really easy for people to understand. They hit us, so we're going to hit them.

For the most part, in a post-WWII world and in a post-Cold War world, the national defense strategy of the United States isn't about doing something when the homeland is directly threatened but rather about maintaining a global balance of power/preventing power vacuums that would otherwise be assumed by someone else (Soviet Union pre-1991, China, Russia, etc.). That's just harder for people to understand; it also doesn't mean that everything we've done was the right thing to do though.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Your son's practice is not diagnosing people with TDS. That's not real

I didnt say that TDS was a diagnosed mental illness in the DSM-5. Your statement is actually true. I said that they treat people for it and that statement is true.

They treat people based on their symptoms and try to help them deal with underlying causes in order to hopefully alleviate their mental anguish. The underlying cause driving some people to seek mental health help where my son works is their obsession with Trump which is commonly referred to as TDS.

 

[EasternVol]

So what? What do you want done about it? It wasn't done intentionally.

It's a shame it happened but things happen in the fog of war. You know the United States doesn't intentionally target civilians.

Fog of war doesn't really apply to a preplanned opening salvo of a war.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

All is really like to see is an acknowledgment that it was an errant missile that we fired. That’s about all we can do. You know… instead of the WH on down lying their asses off about it?

What good would come about admitting it?

It would be used by enemy propaganda against us.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Fog of war doesn't really apply to a preplanned opening salvo of a war.

So you think it was done intentionally?

 

[Sea Ray]

I don't believe anything about this at the moment. Too many people with incentive to lie, and WAAAAAYYYY too many social media types recharacterizing and mischaracterizing statements or conclusions by anyone official.

It has truly become a click bait world.

I'm with you. Anything's possible including that it was due to one of our weapons. If it was, I'm confident that it was not intentional but instead was because the school was on a naval base

 

[NorthDallas40]

What good would come about admitting it?

It would be used by enemy propaganda against us.

LMAO ok I’ll put you down for being ok with your government lying to you and everyone else

 

[adam.vol]

But just like during the opening of the Ukraine conflict, you'll have people posting one side or the other as gospel truth.

This is all made worse by the fact that the government can legally propagandize Americans.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

So you think it was done intentionally?

It was targeted intentionally, not because it was a school, but because our intel thought it was something else besides a school.

 

[utvolpj]

So you think it was done intentionally?

If so, would you call that terrorism?

 

[EasternVol]

So you think it was done intentionally?

I think probably the building was intentionally targeted but whoever did that was not aware that it was a school. Whether they should have been aware is TBC.
Edit to add that someone involved in the process certainly should have known.

 

[rikberry31]

If that's what the law says then it's due process. What part of that don't you understand?

I do understand. The reason this is an issue is because idiots are saying that illegals are being deported without due process. Everyone of them has gotten their due process.
The left is using and it is just another lie, hoax, etc. Just add it to the list. Pandemic, climate change, we have no interest and Iran is no threat, Trump is a facist... We live in the golden age of suckers.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

I do understand. The reason this is an issue is because idiots are saying that illegals are being deported without due process. Everyone of them has gotten their due process.
The left is using and it is just another lie, hoax, etc. Just add it to the list. Pandemic, climate change, we have no interest and Iran is no threat, Trump is a facist... We live in the golden age of suckers.

That last comment is full of irony coming from a proud Trump supporter

 

[lawgator1]

I can understand that also but way to many people and VN experts claiming they know what happened

Yup, agree. And quoting people from Twitter/X is of absolutely no value. In fact, it makes the echo chamber (left or right) that much worse because people are monetizing their allegiance to one or the other by claiming to know the facts when all they are doing (left or right) is regurgitating something they copied and pasted from elsewhere, followed by their own spin designed to get clicks.

I'm with you. Anything's possible including that it was due to one of our weapons. If it was, I'm confident that it was not intentional but instead was because the school was on a naval base

I cannot imagine a world where that would be intentional.

Apart from the tragedy of it, which is unspeakable, the reason it is of such concern geopolitically is that it may well undermine the effort to get the Iranian public to rise up, overthrow the current leadership, and became pro-West. Even an unintentional act like this, if in fact is was a US missile, is going to end up reverberating.

 

[hog88]

If so, would you call that terrorism?

Intentionally bombing a school? Yes
Intentionally bombing a building that turned out to be a school? No