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tvolsfan said:
If the only plan is to arm the Kurds, it seems like a really, really bad idea. Increases odds of civil war and even other countries getting involved. It would be pretty hard to argue any of this is for Iranians.
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The Kurds are among the best fighters in that region. I think this may be as much a threat as anything. The Kurds would not be able to move throughout the country well, they are great tactical defensive fighters in their element.

While they could apply some pressure on the fringes in the West and North but the risks are to steep imo. But who knows with Trump
 
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MontyPython said:
So Iran just hit the consulate in Dubai, the CIA station in Saudi Arabia and a US base in Qatar… yet you think we currently have 3 destroyers directly adjacent to Iran in the Strait of Hormuz which has a 3 km wide shipping lane.

Kindly provide a link and/or your reasoning why this would be true.
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Well, unlike SSNs & SSGNs they can’t really be hidden, and the Navy doesn’t really try to.
Plus there are “ship spotters” that report locations - they’re kinda hard to miss.

I don’t have some classified VNPF security clearance that gives me access to their locations.

There are entire sites that track Carrier Groups, Amphibious Groups, Destroyer Squadrons… pretty much all of the surface combatants. Their tracking is based on public Navy data and spottings.

USS Mitcher (DDG-57)
USS Michael Murphy (DDG-112)
USS Canberra (LCS-30)

Those 3 are all listed as recently in the Straight. They appear to be patrolling from Bahrain to the Arabian.

USNI is a good resource if you’re interested.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Smokey stated that Iran has threatened shipping with Drones, which is a credible threat for sure.

There are already at least a couple of Destroyers plus an LCS in the Straight of Hormuz right now.
There a couple more LCS mine sweepers at Bahrain.

We’re already in the shooting gallery - whatever remains of it.

The US Navy doesn’t broadcast the location of our SSNs, and ship spotters can’t see them, but it’s likely there are 3-4 in the area as well.
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SSN?
 
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KB5252 said:
The Kurds are among the best fighters in that region. I think this may be as much a threat as anything. The Kurds would not be able to move throughout the country well, they are great tactical defensive fighters in their element.

While they could apply some pressure on the fringes in the West and North but the risks are to steep imo. But who knows with Trump
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You may be right. I don’t know, but I’m afraid he’s going to start a civil war and declare victory.
 
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Persian Vol said:
I was holding out hope, but after reading this “arming the Kurds” nonsense i’m convinced we really have no idea what we’re doing do we.
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A thought that just came to me. The kurds have suffered along with other Iranians. The issue currently is the population is almost completely without arms.

What if the plan was to use the Kurdish regions to stage a passage for weapons distribution to the a Iranians to take the fight to the remnants of the regime?

Risky but it's a way to solve a problem standing in the way of Iranian revolution.

Just a thought
 
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KB5252 said:
SSN?
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Social Security Number

But seriously:

SSN - US Attack Submarine
SSGN - US Guided Missile Submarine
SSBN - US Ballistic Missile Submarine
DDG - US Navy Destroyer
CG - US Navy Cruiser
LCS - Littoral Combat Ship
ARG - Amphibious Ready Group
CSG - Carrier Strike Group
 
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85SugarVol said:
Social Security Number

But seriously:

SSN - US Attack Submarine
SSGN - US Guided Missile Submarine
SSBN - US Ballistic Missile Submarine
DDG - US Navy Destroyer
CG - US Navy Cruiser
LCS - Littoral Combat Ship
ARG - Amphibious Ready Group
CSG - Carrier Strike Group
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I just thought submarines were submarines. I had no clue they were so weapon specific
 
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KB5252 said:
I just thought submarines were submarines. I had no clue they were so weapon specific
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Yep

SSNs are “Hunter-Killer” attack boats. They carry torpedoes and tomahawks.
Los Angeles Class - relics of the Cold War
Seawolf Class - still the baddest around
Virginia Class - our newest attack subs

SSGNs are guided missile boats. They are old Ohio class subs that have been converted to tomahawk missile barges essentially.

SSBNs are ballistic missile boats. These are what are referred to as “boomers”. No one knows where they are. They loiter at depth and carry the Trident II nuclear missile, representing the sea based leg of our nuclear triad.
Ohio Class - the current backbone
Columbia Class - the future SSBN

It’s highly likely that SSNs or an SSGN fired the first tomahawks of this conflict. They always fire first.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I didn't say they were cheap! But, taking out the paltry Iranian "fleet" would be like plinking steel with a .22 at 25 yards. Plus, they have extensive sea-to-land armaments (such as the Tomahawk), often used as first-strike ordinance.
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Iranian boats completely outgunned.

Yep, and the Block V has the extended payload module in the middle. Doubles the Tomahawk load out.
 
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KB5252 said:
You claim hunting of children, you claim cannabalism and pedo rings. I've seen no evidence of any of this. The only place I've seen these allegations is on social media with links to alleged Epstein files. In almost all cases I'm aware of it turns out those stories don't exist, were conjured, non existent in the files.
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So let me get this straight. Unless the mainstream media tells you they are hunting children and eating human meat you won't believe it? The same mainstream they control like our politicians? I would suggest thinking for yourself.

Have you even read the Epstein files for yourself? If not I would suggest you do. Go to the DOJ website and search for "jerky" as a key term. Read all the emails related to "jerky" and tell me if you think they are actually talking about eating beef jerky or if as was the case in Pizzagate the term "jerky" is code for something else.

And FTR there's a specific email where they talk about hunting where Epstein adds "and they're N words". As in they were going to hunt black people. Go read that email and tell me how it isn't about hunting people.

The level of evil in the Epstein is actually incomprehensible to what the media is reporting. I almost wish all they were doing is having sex with underage girls. But unfortunately its far darker. Its literally the most evil stuff imaginable.
 
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