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So the WH told us we had to pre-emptively strike Iran because of their imminent threats, and yesterday the Pentagon told congress that Iran wasn't going to strike us.

Strange behavior for a guy who railed against going to war with Iran for 15 years, but no way is this Israel's bidding. @volfanhill

 
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At the risk of getting lost in my awesome analogy, I don't think Israel has ever passed up an opportunity to full salvo in response to any degree of aggression.

Again, they should.

However, we have no business putting anything up for it.

They absolutely have passed up numerous opportunities. IMO they have been very restrained.
 
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According to the latest reports its off the coast of Haifa and is positioned with the purpose of protecting Israelis from Iranian missiles.

Here's the link: Google Search



As of March 2, 2026, the USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) is positioned off the coast of Israel, primarily near the port city of Haifa, to serve as a defensive "shield" and a strategic deterrent against Iranian retaliation. India Today
The carrier strike group is currently engaged in Operation Epic Fury, which involves launching aircraft to conduct strikes against Iranian-linked targets and supporting regional security following a major escalation in U.S.-Iran tensions.

Strategic Objectives
The deployment serves several critical military and political functions:
  • Shield for Israel: The carrier’s advanced Aegis missile defense systems and dual-band radar are positioned to intercept incoming Iranian missiles and drones before they reach Israeli population centers.

I tried to come up with how two similar searches could come to completely different results.

Playing off your search here is what I found.





The USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) provides missile defense for Israel not through its own short-range self-defense weapons, but by acting as a mobile command hub and operating with a full Carrier Strike Group (CSG). The CSG includes Aegis-equipped destroyers, which have long-range ballistic missile defense capabilities.
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  • Integrated Air Defense: While the Ford itself has systems like the Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM) (with ~31-mile range) for its own defense, it serves as a central hub for a strike group that includes Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, which can track and intercept ballistic missiles at much greater ranges.
  • Carrier Strike Group (CSG) Assets: The Ford strike group provides a "shield" function to the region, offering long-range protection, early warnings, and intelligence capabilities.
  • Aircraft Interception: The aircraft carrier can launch F-35C Lightning II and F/A-18E Super Hornet fighters to engage, destroy, or divert airborne threats long before they reach Israeli airspace.
  • Electronic Warfare: The Ford uses advanced systems like the SEWIP Block 3 to detect, identify, and jam incoming missile radar, potentially causing them to fail before reaching their target.
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In essence, the Ford serves as the centerpiece of a wider, layered defense network in the Mediterranean, rather than relying on its short-range, defensive-only weapons to stop long-range threats.

So the destroyers as part of the battle group is what is offering some protection to Israel, as well as to assets like our bases in the region, Cyprus and our assets currently based in Israel

The real answer here has little to do with the Gerald Ford itself. And the assertion that the mission is to protect Israel is somewhat dubious as well. The Mediterranean is a safer operating area, provides a different area of approach for aircraft, and offers protection to an area in the region within Iran's offensive missile range.
 
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Perhaps you should take it up with them, since your information is incorrect
Dare him to look up if the Ford even actually has on board Aegis then watch the spinning start. I mean if you're bored...nobody will actually learn anything from him other than his self-affirming take on the matter. Otherwise it is MUCH better to ignore him altogether.
 
Dare him to look up if the Ford even actually has on board Aegis then watch the spinning start. I mean if you're bored...nobody will actually learn anything from him other than his self-affirming take on the matter. Otherwise it is MUCH better to ignore him altogether.
Pretty sure I have him on ignore for being a wild black supremacist.
 
At the end of the day if any other country's leadership openly talked about propagandizing American citizens, targeting investments to control an "eighth front", and "waging a war" on their minds, everyone- and I mean everyone- would be losing their ****. And rightfully so.

But this one particular country does it, and it's all good. I don't understand. Don't we believe every country has a right to self-determination?
This banking cartel seized all of the US’s gold for $20 an ounce and then raised the price of gold to $35 an ounce within 24 hours after the deadline. They have assassinated every President who attempted to undo it, yet the coincidence conspiracists treat anyone who notices as a conspirator.

AIPAC should never have been allowed. They have weaponized our mandatory (social security) and voluntary (401k) retirement savings against us to keep people in office who will work against our interests, all while waging war on Christianity. Yet there are still loons who believe that they are our allies.

Pointless war followed by mass immigration and inflation.. Over and over.
 
Pretty sure I have him on ignore for being a wild black supremacist.
Well, there's also that but his indefatigable ability to assert a take and then run in circles about pretty much anything is almost amazing. I used to play more, often just for giggles, but he's grown too annoying to even amuse me any longer.
 
Since we haven't had the opportunity post WWII to see how stable the region is or isn't without Israel and without a whole lot of European and Europe Jr. meddling, why do you think it's inherently unstable?
The fighting between the governments before WW2. The fighting between people before WW2. The internal fighting of different sects of their religion and religious leaders before WW2.
What value does Israel return?
Already covered. A stable government where the US can have influence over the region.
I'll add that they're a major destabilizing force in the region even if their domestic politics are relatively stable.
I am not surprised you feel that way.
 
This banking cartel seized all of the US’s gold for $20 an ounce and then raised the price of gold to $35 an ounce within 24 hours after the deadline. They have assassinated every President who attempted to undo it, yet the coincidence conspiracists treat anyone who notices as a conspirator.

AIPAC should never have been allowed. They have weaponized our mandatory (social security) and voluntary (401k) retirement savings against us to keep people in office who will work against our interests, all while waging war on Christianity. Yet there are still loons who believe that they are our allies.

Pointless war followed by mass immigration and inflation.. Over and over.
Lobbying should be banned in general. It’s become nothing more than bribery
 
For me, the jury remains out, and I don't see how anyone, on either side of the political spectrum, can make a judgment about the wisdom or efficacy of this action at this time.

We hear from some parts of the administration that it was necessary to prevent Iran from developing a nuke. We hear from others that this was not correct. But we don't know what either of them know and why they think they are right and the others wrong. It will come out in time.

We hear from some that this will turn into a misadventure and entangle us in Iranian and mid-east affairs way too much. We hear from others that this will quickly result in a more pro-Western Iran and more stable mid-east. I think both sides earnestly believe what they say, but last I checked no one can predict the future. It will be determined in time.

I'm not willing to criticize the decision to do this, nor am I willing to defend it, with the little we in the public know at this point.
 
The fighting between the governments before WW2. The fighting between people before WW2. The internal fighting of different sects of their religion and religious leaders before WW2.

Already covered. A stable government where the US can have influence over the region.

I am not surprised you feel that way.
With the exception of British-backed Arab independence movements, wasn't the region fairly stable under the Ottomans until things like the Balfour Declaration? Certainly more stable than now.
 
The fighting between the governments before WW2. The fighting between people before WW2. The internal fighting of different sects of their religion and religious leaders before WW2.

Was there ever a stable region on the planet before WWII? Post WWII were the longest periods of peace in European history. It's not really fair to say Israel isn't the problem, because look at 1920.

Israel and the US have been destabilizing the Muslim world for 70+ years.
 
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With the exception of British-backed Arab independence movements, wasn't the region fairly stable under the Ottomans until things like the Balfour Declaration? Certainly more stable than now.
It sounds like you are far more knowledgeable about the details than me.

Do you have any insight on the periods of peace and harmony over the 10,000 year history of the region? Or, you can choose an alternate starting point, if you want.
 

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