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[OrangeTsar]

I'm not saying it wasn’t sound military strategy. I'm saying it was an evil act. You could argue war is nothing but evil acts. But that doesn't change the fact those were the two greatest single acts of evil in human history regardless of how sound they were from a tactical perspective.

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[Vol8188]

How's that WW3 thing going?

Hopefully everyone on the right has realized what a loser Tucker Carlson is

 

[evillawyer]

 

[lawgator1]

Hopefully they do. Each and every time it gets started up.

In the past I think they were worried both about US reaction and about broader Arab reaction. Neither seems to be a problem so if things remain relatively the same, if Israel could convince everyone that Iran was back at it again (in terms of nukes) you are probably right.

 

[HeuperDrive]

„two greatest evils in human history“
So you rank it above….
The Holocaust
African slavery
The ethnic cleansing of Native Americans
The killing fields of Cambodia
The Armenian genocide
The Cultural Revolution
Stalin‘s farm collectivization
The Spanish conquest of Mayans and Aztecs

BTW, we killed more Japanese in the fire bombing of Tokyo than we did in either Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

hell, the atomic bombs don’t even compare the evils Japan itself committed during the war. Nanjing and the Manila massacre were two of the most evil events in human history. And Japan's conduct in the Sino-Japanese war at large made most wars look like tea parties. There's a reason why, when you ask a Chinese, Korean or Filipino person what they think of the bombings, they say “they deserved it”.

calling the bombs the “two greatest evils in human history” when Japan had just cut through Asia with murderous glee is laughable.

 

[DaddyChad]

That girl in the white bikini actually her? Looks like a different body type.

I’m gonna need to see more pictures in white to verify

I approve of this thread derailment.

 

[Vol8188]

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[OrangeTsar]

Get off Facebook for a day or two

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[Vol8188]

In the past I think they were worried both about US reaction and about broader Arab reaction. Neither seems to be a problem so if things remain relatively the same, if Israel could convince everyone that Iran was back at it again (in terms of nukes) you are probably right.

“convince”…are you unconvinced?

 

[OrangeTsar]

1,305 days

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

That's why I specified single acts. The genocide of the Native Americans happened over a long period of time and was done my lots of different people. The dropping of nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were singular acts made at a particular moment but a particular set of men.

It's the single most evil act in human history no matter how you slice it because no single act killed as many innocent people in one swift moment.

Wanna cookie? I'm finding it hard to see what you're trying to win here.

Atrocities are a fact of human existence whether committed in an instant or over years. You act as though because nuclear bombs killed a lot of people quickly (and slowly,) they're somehow "worse" than other atrocities humans commit.

They're not. They are efficient at killing a lot of people quickly which humanity, arguably, needed when they were dropped to avoid a prolonged and more horrid loss of lives.

As a message, like a Mike Tyson upper cut, it got Japan's attention that much worse could and would be delivered.

 

[MontyPython]

He doesn't know. He's just angry and needs to fight.

Lawdy. Ain't complicated.

Russia benefits from any war between the US and Iran. Why? Oil prices would boom. Russia's economy is highly dependent on oil and gas exports, and Putin would have been grateful for a war.

 

[Vol8188]

One thing I am extremely proud of is that I have made it to 2025 without ever having a Facebook account

Didn’t realize you were a bot

 

[Weezy]

I could argue the nuclear weapon has been the most peaceful invention in human history. In the first half of the 20th century we were on a trajectory of total, horrific war. We then saw, relatively speaking 50 years of peace. Because of mutually assured destruction. Who knows if that happens without the initial demonstration. This is a log scale which downplays the size of the drop off, or increase from the world wars.

 

[MontyPython]

You protect your own. I understand what Iran is doing and respect it. I also understand why they are getting bombed right now. They knew it would come to this.
To your point about hiding the bomb making. I think they could build it under everyone’s nose at Bushehr nuclear power site. A working reactor, Russian scientists, if it’s bombed the radiation will carry into the Persian gulf. I would bet money there’s where the uranium is at now.

Now that's pretty clever if I'm understanding correctly... if the US were to bomb Bushehr, nuclear radiation would float all over the ME - and potentially over our close allies. That would not go over well.

I was reading up again on Project Thor... the "Rods from Gods" theoretical weapon that we, apparently, have considered on occasion. It would be the ultimate bunker buster "bomb" and put the current GBU-57 MOP to shame...

Basically, the concept is we'd have a satellite in relatively low orbit. On this satellite, we attach 30 ft long by 1 ft in diameter telephone pole-looking tungsten rods (that weigh about 25K pounds). The rods contain the ability to be satellite guided, but actually contain no explosive warhead. Instead, a target is chosen, the rod released, and it enters the atmosphere and falls down from its orbit - eventually hitting the earth at a speed of Mach 10 (about 11,000 feet per second) - using only kinetic energy, it hits with the force of 11,000 tons of TNT.

 

[McDad]

Lawdy. Ain't complicated.

Russia benefits from any war between the US and Iran. Why? Oil prices would boom. Russia's economy is highly dependent on oil and gas exports, and Putin would have been grateful for a war.

 

[Orangeburst]

That girl in the white bikini actually her? Looks like a different body type.

I’m gonna need to see more pictures in white to verify

Give me your emailand I will send you some pics..of her.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Delmar]

hell, the atomic bombs don’t even compare the evils Japan itself committed during the war. Nanjing and the Manila massacre were two of the most evil events in human history. And Japan's conduct in the Sino-Japanese war at large made most wars look like tea parties. There's a reason why, when you ask a Chinese, Korean or Filipino person what they think of the bombings, they say “they deserved it”.

calling the bombs the “two greatest evils in human history” when Japan had just cut through Asia with murderous glee is laughable.

Worse than laughable, that take by D4H is simply ignorant. Of course, there is a reason why I have that goof on Ignore. No tolerance for stupid. Those bombs saved tens of millions of Japanese and American (soldiers) lives by bringing an end to the war before the inevitable invasion.

 

[volbound1700]

Turkey has beef with us. So does Qatar, they also have a vested interest in being friendly with us. The relationship with Turkey is luke warm at best. Qatar just likes our money and the defense we offer them

Canada even has beef with us at times. Are they starting wars, funding terrorists, trying to get nukes, etc.? People claim Iran is victim on here but 95% of the world nations don't feel like they need nukes to defend themselves and there is a reason for that.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

All military action is by that standard evil.

Agreed. That's why I said the dropping of the nukes were the single greatest acts of evil in human history.

 

[volbound1700]

Isn’t there another nation in that general area that’s a well known crap starter too? Goose and gander you know.

Someone has to be the teacher. You are basically blaming the teacher for correcting her class. We may not like it but we are the world leader. You guys play the Iran victim card but I can list 99% of the nations in the world that USA isn't planning to attack or have issues with. It is only a small handful that cause problems for everyone. Basically W Bush's Axis of Evil minus Iraq.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

As unfortunate as it may have been to have to go that route, it ended a long and costly war. I think you forgot the holocaust, the killing fields of Cambodia, the Bolsheviks and consequently Stalin killings millions of their countrymen and all the other genocidal events of the world that were not used to stop a war, but for political gain. That’s what evil is.

I agree those were also evil. And in totality moreso. That's why I specifically said the dropping nukes were the greatest SINGULAR acts of evil in human history. All those other atrocities involved multiple acts over longer periods of time by lots of different people. The dropping of the nukes were singular, sudden, and involved a few men making two awful decisions.

 

[TheDirector]

Just because those sites supposedly studied nuclear bombs and uranium enrichment, doesn't mean the uranium actually came from those labs. Maybe the enriched uranium occurred naturally? Are there bat caves in Iran? Am I doing it right?

 

[Vol737]

How's that WW3 thing going?

It’s a thrill a minute. Hunkered down in my basement with my 3 year rations, water, booze and every MAGAzine I’ve got for my SKS, loaded and ready. Got my wife on my .270 w/ scope panning the street from our upstairs bedroom. Had to tell her to quit shooting the squirrels and to stop yelling obscenities at the neighbor across the street over the weeds in his yard. She hasn’t quite grasped the finer points of how snipers should operate.