Iran

[Vol423]

What else are we going to discuss now that WWIII is over

Kids will love studying this one in school.

 

[Orangeburst]

What else are we going to discuss now that WWIII is over

you can't discuss WW3 without knowledge of WW2, which means WW1..it all goes back to the CW and Lincoln...IMO.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Why? They're at war just like us and Japan. Why would using nukes against non-nuclear Japan be justified but Russia using nukes against non-nuclear Ukraine is apparently not justified?

Its either wrong to use nukes when your opponent doesn't have them or it's fine. You can't have it both ways.

The firebombing by the US killed more than the atomic bombs. You’re clueless

 

[KB5252]

Or they could just be like Qatar, UAE, Jordan, Switzerland, New Zealand, or 97% of the world's nations and just stop causing problems. Iran is one of a few nations that starts crap. If they behaved like a Qatar or Switzerland, they would be fine. Heck, even acting like Turkey would work. You don't see USA, Israel, or anyone having beef with those nations.

Turkey has beef with us. So does Qatar, they also have a vested interest in being friendly with us. The relationship with Turkey is luke warm at best. Qatar just likes our money and the defense we offer them

 

[lawgator1]

If this is actually true, I am all for continued bombing at those sites. This isnt something to half-azz. If you intend to destroy something, then destroy it. I am sure Israel isn't gonna let them just show up with bulldozers and excavators tomorrow and start redigging those tunnels though. Regardless of ANY ceasefire agreement. I would bet my balls that when/if any equipment shows up on those sites or even NEAR them that Israel will absolutely bomb them immediately. Israel cannot and will not allow Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. We will help them if necessary and I am 100% ok with that as long as we don't put boots on the ground, which we won't need to.

The real problem is that they probably moved the enriched uranium already.

 

[dobre_shunka]

Are you under the impression that the Saratoga was the only carrier in theater?

Yes, that's why I asked where the others were.

Are you under the impression that San Diego and Pearl Harbor are "near" each other.

 

[OrangeTsar]

The government taught me very little about WW2. Most I learned on my own. It's a shame you are so jaded that you look at history through today's lense.

The great thing about studying history is there is always something new to learn. I am doing a deep dive right now on the end of the Roman Republic. Really awesome stuff

 

[85SugarVol]

if things are staying the same why is Trump claiming credit?

Is this a serious question?

 

[hog88]

Yes, that's why I asked where the others were.

Are you under the impression that San Diego and Pearl Harbor are "near" each other.

No and that’s a dumb argument on your part.

 

[Carl Pickens]

The real problem is that they probably moved the enriched uranium already.

Do you honestly think that Israel and the US didn’t have eyes on that place the whole time?
If trucks left out, they knew where they went and have disposed of them already.
Saying it may have been moved simply gives another reason to hit them again and leave Iran guessing. They’re not playing checkers over there

 

[KB5252]

Run a campaign, soft coup are ambiguous words.

How about we agree on the terms so far. And if we get to anything that's a judgement call, we'll let the board decide or maybe even better, both donate.

Whatchoo think '40?

Who wants a flaccid coup?

 

[volfanhill]

Who wants a flaccid coup?

 

[chuckiepoo]

I am thinking of other humans. The bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima probably saved millions of lives maybe billions.

In 1945, the world's population was around 2.3 billion. Key countries and their estimated populations include: China (around 267 million), India (around 300 million), British Empire (around 545 million), and Japan (around 71 million). The United States had a population of roughly 140 million. The world population had increased since the start of World War II, despite the conflict causing significant loss of life

 

[Orangeburst]

In 1945, the world's population was around 2.3 billion. Key countries and their estimated populations include: China (around 267 million), India (around 300 million), British Empire (around 545 million), and Japan (around 71 million). The United States had a population of roughly 140 million. The world population had increased since the start of World War II, despite the conflict causing significant loss of life

how did China get to 1B+ with the Cultural Revolution? 5X growth vs 2.5X for US.

 

[NEO]

So our Manhattan Project... Did Germany and Japan know about it? (No)

No satellite is gonna show dick about a mine shaft entrance. Hell they could build a mosque and put the entrance there. This ain't rocket science.

Guy…..you went way back for that. This ain’t the 1900s. Holy hell. We have thermo satellites now that can go miles underground and show unusual heat patterns and wave movement.

And actually it kinda is rocket science.

 

[NEO]

Word is 85 percent nuclear destruction of their processing was destroyed. Did not hear this from a news article……

Site we hit is fully contaminated now.

 

[StarRaider]

how did China get to 1B+ with the Cultural Revolution? 5X growth vs 2.5X for US.

 

[Orangeburst]

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BS

 

[StarRaider]

BS

yep seems nuts with the famine that killed 10's of millions in 1959/61

 

[RavinDave]

That’s a shame

 

[85SugarVol]

Arguably the firebombing campaign against Tokyo wreaked more damage and resulted in larger loss of life than the two nuclear attacks. (Edit to clarify, singular raids. I can see combined casualties of both nuclear raids being higher but not sure)

The Firebombing of Tokyo
The Rape of Nanjing
The Final Solution

All were worse than “the bombs”, and were from the same damn war.

tHe AtOmIc BoMbs WeRe tHe wOrSt AtRoCiTy iN HISTORY!!
- Village Idiot

 

[Orangeburst]

yep seems nuts with the famine that killed 10's of millions in 1959/61

NOTE2.HTM

@StarRaider c heck this out..The Great Leap Forward is what I was thinking as well not to mention Jap occupation

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[McDad]

The Firebombing of Tokyo
The Rape of Nanjing
The Final Solution

All were worse than “the bombs”, and were from the same damn war.

tHe AtOmIc BoMbs WeRe tHe wOrSt AtRoCiTy iN HISTORY!!
- Village Idiot

There is so much unbridled brutality in war. It's insincere to take an event or two and ascribe those as the worst atrocities.

The Japanese were far more brutal and inhumane to the Chinese than the Germans were to the Jews but we rarely ever hear of that.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Well, the Soviets knew about the Manhattan Project. And we and the British knew about the German efforts to obtain the bomb. So it can happen