Iran

[Berry4Heisman14]

But will happily live under that same blanket of freedom provided.

Our freedom isn’t threatened by Iran. They’re just the new flavor for propaganda to get support from people like you to go to war and make billions. Like I said be sure to sign up, if you’re too old sign up your kids since they’re probably brainwashed too like you are. Gotta go fight this war! Who cares if tons of Americans die including potentially family members friends etc

 

[Majors]

Republicans feigning concern about the rights of women and gay people in other countries always means the same thing

Believe Democrats should do also be concerned. Truthfully it’s out of sight out of mind until a liberal poster claims the Iranian people and government aren’t evil. Then you pull the Iranian gay card on the left to watch them dance.

 

[Berry4Heisman14]

Then explain why so many in the right continually fall for the trick that we need to be in the middle east? The Iraq War and Covid-19 were exactly the same psy-op. The left wisely didn't fall for the Iraq War hoax cause they're not blinded by irrational hatred of people who are different from them. The right unfortunately fell for it. However, when the Covid-19 hoax came around the left fell for it hook line and sinker because they couldn't believe the government scientists would lie to them. The right however was correct in their skepticism because they don't worship at the alter of academia and science.

I'm a black man who leans conservative so I didn't fall either psy-op. I don't think Muslims hate us for no reasons so the government can never get me to back them on dumb wars in the Middle East and I don't believe doctors and scientists simply because they went to a prestigious university or support leftist causes.

Things never change in this country because the left and right are both blind to their biases hence why they're so easy to control.

Bc they’re brainwashed by propaganda. They’ve perfected propaganda now. There’s people on the left brainwashed too

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

This is about as good a take as your Heisman predictions.

No country has ever used a nuclear bomb unprovoked except us in the 80 or so years nukes have been in existence. Why would Iran suddenly buck the trend? Nations get nukes for defensive posture. It's to deter others from attacking you with nukes.

What evidence do you have Iran would use a nuclear bomb unprovoked outside of your bigotry towards them?

 

[C-south]

Our freedom isn't threatened by Iran

And you should be thankful for that.

 

[C-south]

Our freedom isn’t threatened by Iran. They’re just the new flavor for propaganda to get support from people like you to go to war and make billions. Like I said be sure to sign up, if you’re too old sign up your kids since they’re probably brainwashed too like you are. Gotta go fight this war! Who cares if tons of Americans die including potentially family members friends etc

I’ve already served and been there. You’re welcome

 

[Vol8188]

Trust intel or do what Israel says? Predictable answer

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www.cnn.com

What does it airing another year or two gain for us? Wait until Russia isn’t occupied in Ukraine and until Iran has built back their air defenses?

 

[Berry4Heisman14]

I’ve already served and been there. You’re welcome

All the respect in the world for service members. No respect for the politicians and billionaires that make them think they’re fighting for our freedom. They’re fighting for nothing more than dollar signs.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I appreciate that you've talked yourself into this but it's bull****. Trump is the President, he's not more trustworthy than other government officials because you think he made other government officials mad. He is the literal head of the government you "distrust" and the "swamp" has recently been aligning itself with everything he does

Isn't it wonderful to have a President that the swamp loathes and fears?

 

[NashVol11]

What does it airing another year or two gain for us? Wait until Russia isn’t occupied in Ukraine and until Iran has built back their air defenses?

You are presenting as an inevitability what the article explicitly did not

But US intelligence assessments had reached a different conclusion – not only was Iran not actively pursuing a nuclear weapon, it was also up to three years away from being able to produce and deliver one to a target of its choosing, according to four people familiar with the assessment.

 

[tbh]

This is about as good a take as your Heisman predictions.

Now ask him about Iranian "hair culture" through the years, and how it compares with that of the Egyptians.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Indeed. A country that has spent the better part of five decades calling for “death to America” is not someone we really want to have a weapon like that.

It seems you guys want to discuss a novel by starting in the middle. Let's start at the beginning. Why would Iran ever hate us? And if their hate is based on our meddling, maybe if we stop meddling they wouldn't hate us anymore?

Iran didn't come out the womb hating America. Before we created the spark that led to the Islamic revolution they were like any other country. They just wanted peace and prosperity. Then our government decided to topple their democratically elected secular government because they wouldn’t let British Petroleum steal their oil. So we installed a dictator who the people hated so much they turned to Islamic fundamentalism.

Once again Iran didn't come out the womb screaming "Death to America". We created that hate and resentment in them because of our actions. And now all we're doing is adding to that bad blood by continuing to attack them. At some point you can't blame someone for defending themselves after you keep starting the fight.

 

[NashVol11]

Isn't it wonderful to have a President that the swamp loathes and fears?

Not really, it's just a different type of swamp that leans far more authoritarian and, in authoritarian fashion, is mostly made up of the main guy's loyalists and buddies.

And again, saying you trust the leader of the government "precisely BECAUSE of your distrust of the government" is something I'm confident you've never said out loud without someone laughing in your face

 

[Orange_Crush]

No country has ever used a nuclear bomb unprovoked except us in the 80 or so years nukes have been in existence. Why would Iran suddenly buck the trend? Nations get nukes for defensive posture. It's to deter others from attacking you with nukes.

What evidence do you have Iran would use a nuclear bomb unprovoked outside of your bigotry towards them?

With their history of promises/threats and terrorist sponsorship, why would we wait to see?

And taking someone at their word is now bigotry? You do you.

 

[Majors]

Our freedom isn’t threatened by Iran. They’re just the new flavor for propaganda to get support from people like you to go to war and make billions. Like I said be sure to sign up, if you’re too old sign up your kids since they’re probably brainwashed too like you are. Gotta go fight this war! Who cares if tons of Americans die including potentially family members friends etc

Tell me more about this brainwash and this new flavor you speak of.

Bill Clinton: "We are determined to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons." (1995)

George W. Bush: "Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. Period." (2006)

Barack Obama: "I have stated that Iran will never be allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon." (2015)

Joe Biden: "We will not allow Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon." (2022)

Donald J. Trump: "Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated....Thank you for your attention to this matter." (2025)

@realDonaldTrump PROMISES MADE, PROMISES KEPT!

 

[MemphisVol77]

One must ask why they are getting boned. Look, I hate this. But I can also look at the 40 years leading up to it and see the situation where it was a hard decision that would ultimately come to the least-****ty outcome.

That's not how it works.

Arab states don't have agency and their acts of aggression never happen in a vacuum. we did something to make it our fault

Our acts of aggression always happen in a vacuum and we have agency. That makes us like double super responsible for any of their aggressions over the next 40 years.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Republicans feigning concern about the rights of women and gay people in other countries always means the same thing

As opposed to the Democrats who say they do but never actually follow through

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Probably won’t ever have to worry about any African countries ever becoming nuclear capable.

Don't know what the point of this casual racism is but my point there was just because a country has the death penalty for homosexuality doesn't mean it's evil. It just means they're highly conservative and follow the laws of their religion (which tends to be the same in the Abrahamic religions).

It's also pretty funny to me that right wing Americans are the ones feigning outrage at the treatment of gays by fundamentalist Muslims. As if they've ever been great defenders of gay rights here in America.

 

[YankeeVol]

Don't know what the point of this casual racism is but my point there was just because a country has the death penalty for homosexuality doesn't mean it's evil. It just means they're highly conservative and follow the laws of their religion (which tends to be the same in the Abrahamic religions).

It's also pretty funny to me that right wing Americans are the ones feigning outrage at the treatment of gays by fundamentalist Muslims. As if they've ever been great defenders of gay rights here in America.

He's not wrong

 

[Orange_Crush]

It seems you guys want to discuss a novel by starting in the middle. Let's start at the beginning. Why would Iran ever hate us? And if their hate is based on our meddling, maybe if we stop meddling they wouldn't hate us anymore?

Iran didn't come out the womb hating America. Before we created the spark that led to the Islamic revolution they were like any other country. They just wanted peace and prosperity. Then our government decided to topple their democratically elected secular government because they wouldn’t let British Petroleum steal their oil. So we installed a dictator who the people hated so much they turned to Islamic fundamentalism.

Once again Iran didn't come out the womb screaming "Death to America". We created that hate and resentment in them because of our actions. And now all we're doing is adding to that bad blood by continuing to attack them. At some point you can't blame someone for defending themselves after you keep starting the fight.

Yes. Your argument is that they hate us (have promised to feast on our collective corpse as they sponsor terrorism), so go ahead and let them have a nuke.

PS: I agree with you. The US gov't has been a corrupt empire-building ****-show for longer than either of us have been alive. We have been a bully for big $$$ interests. We have interfered in the Middle East for profit and power, to enforce the petro $ on the rest of the world to further our fiat economy. You'll get no argument from me. I'll agree all day long. And I want it to end. AAMOF, my hope is that Trump is trying to do just that.

But we can't go back in time. We can't change where we are. You and I both agree that they hate us. They plainly state the purpose of destroying us. And you quote good motives for them to do so.

We can't take the chance that they will try. They can't have nukes.

 

[NashVol11]

As opposed to the Democrats who say they do but never actually follow through

Alright. I can probably agree they "don't follow through" whatever that means, but I haven't seen LGBTQ treatment used from the left as a justification for bombing other countries

 

[NorthDallas40]

Do the letters GFY mean anything to you?

Yeah! Good For You!!

 

[Wireless1]

No country has ever used a nuclear bomb unprovoked except us in the 80 or so years nukes have been in existence. Why would Iran suddenly buck the trend? Nations get nukes for defensive posture. It's to deter others from attacking you with nukes.

What evidence do you have Iran would use a nuclear bomb unprovoked outside of your bigotry towards them?

You are correct that there is a very low probability that Iran would launch a nuke tipped ballistic missle at the US, but Iran arming a terrorist group that sneaks a nuke (or my bigger fear) a biological weapon into the “Great Satan” has to be on their play list

 

[C-south]

Don't know what the point of this casual racism is but my point there was just because a country has the death penalty for homosexuality doesn't mean it's evil. It just means they're highly conservative and follow the laws of their religion (which tends to be the same in the Abrahamic religions).

It's also pretty funny to me that right wing Americans are the ones feigning outrage at the treatment of gays by fundamentalist Muslims. As if they've ever been great defenders of gay rights here in America.

You attempted to make an apples to apples comparison and it wasn’t….to nobody’s surprise.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Not really, it's just a different type of swamp that leans far more authoritarian and, in authoritarian fashion, is mostly made up of the main guy's loyalists and buddies.

And again, saying you trust the leader of the government "precisely BECAUSE of your distrust of the government" is something I'm confident you've never said out loud without someone laughing in your face

Well, after the swamp exposed themselves in a coup to get rid of him, it sounds better out loud when you turn down MSNBC, CNN, and the Dem leaders' podium shows. But you are welcome to your opinion.

I do recommend you post it here often before Trump removes your right to do so. What do you think? Any day now? Right after he stops allowing y'all to plan protests against him?