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LadyVolette said:
Nah, if there was a small window of opportunity to do something that had to be done and then we say byeee and leave I fully support that..
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That may be true but you guys have lost all moral authority from criticizing other past President's for similar actions like W Bush and Obama.
 
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Smokey123 said:
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jmacvols1 said:
some argue there is a difference in the flow of oil (fungible) and price of oil. Even though oil can be transported from one place to another, the price will still go up:

GROK:
...oil is fungible, meaning one barrel of crude can generally substitute for another, regardless of origin, assuming similar quality. This fungibility affects how disruptions like a potential Strait of Hormuz closure impact global markets.
Price vs. Flow of Oil:
  • Price: A closure threat or actual disruption in the Strait of Hormuz would likely spike oil prices globally due to perceived scarcity and risk. Even if no physical shortage occurs, market speculation and fear of reduced supply can drive prices up. For instance, 15-20% of global oil and 30%+ of LNG pass through the strait, so any disruption signal could push Brent or WTI benchmarks higher, potentially exceeding $100/barrel, as seen in past crises.

  • Flow: Fungibility means oil can reroute to mitigate physical shortages. If the strait closes, alternative supplies (e.g., Saudi Arabia, U.S. shale, or Russian oil) could redirect to affected markets, though at higher costs and with delays. Pipelines like Saudi Arabia’s East-West Pipeline or UAE’s Fujairah bypass could partially offset losses, but they lack the strait’s capacity. Actual flow disruptions would depend on the closure’s duration, Iran’s enforcement capability, and global spare capacity (currently limited per OPEC reports).
Key Considerations:
  • Iran’s ability to fully close the strait is questionable due to U.S. naval presence and partial control (Oman co-manages the strait).
  • A prolonged closure would hurt Iran’s economy, as it relies on oil exports, potentially forcing allies like China to seek alternatives.
  • Current reports (June 22, 2025) are mixed—some claim a parliamentary vote to close the strait, but no confirmation from Iran’s Supreme Leader or maritime data showing stopped traffic.
In short, a Hormuz closure would primarily disrupt prices through market panic and risk premiums, while fungibility and alternative routes could limit long-term flow issues, though not without logistical strain and elevated costs.
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I was wrong..I was thinking just about Iranian oil production,not the amount that transits the SoH.
 
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volbound1700 said:
So much for this administration focusing on staying out of wars. I might have more patience with this attack if it wasn't for how loud MAGA has been about staying out of wars.
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Cool story. I'm sure that's all that has you against it. No TDS involved at all, right? I'll bet the 'war' you are so concerned about still won't ever materialize. Trump is Mike Tyson and Iran is a beta cuck leftist.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Cool story. I'm sure that's all that has you against it. No TDS involved at all, right? I'll bet the 'war' you are so concerned about still won't ever materialize. Trump is Mike Tyson and Iran is a beta cuck leftist.
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I voted for Trump 😆 and defend him more than the left. However, this is a 180 from posts your camp was making just a month ago in Ukraine thread
 
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MontyPython said:
North Korea - which has nuclear weapons - could nuke S Korean or one of our bases there, but they haven't. How's a nuclear powered Iran different?
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Religious fanatics, for one (although the Nork "Cult of Kim" could be argued to be a religion, eliminating that tubby fool would likely topple the regime). Resources are another.

North Korea is essentially a vassal/client state of China, who keep them on somewhat of a leash. I'm not aware of a similar relationship between Iran and any traditional world power that could exercise restraint if/when needed.
 
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I tried to listen to Hegseth's presser because I'm interested in the logistics of this operation.

However, he started with irrelevant praise for his dear leader, and I had to shut it off after "President Trump is the most attractive leader in the history of the world, and I listen to recordings of his voice while I choke myself to climax."

Did he ever get around to anything worthwhile?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Of course they would. I am sure the BDA was done via satellite almost in real time.

It's amusing how the left accuses the right of living in the 1950s.
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How do you get a "real time BDA" on bunkers deep beneath a mountain? You dont, without going in.
 
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volgr said:
How do you get a "real time BDA" on bunkers deep beneath a mountain? You dont, without going in.
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OK, assuming they are incompetent in their craft, we can watch for a period of time and see what goes in and out. We don't have to send anyone in to check it out.
 
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MontyPython said:
North Korea - which has nuclear weapons - could nuke S Korean or one of our bases there, but they haven't. How's a nuclear powered Iran different?
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Iran is lead by an apocalyptic death cult which believes that blood has to flow before the 12th Imam return to earth, and that it is their duty to help promote his return. See the difference between them and everyone else with nukes?
 
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bamawriter said:
I tried to listen to Hegseth's presser because I'm interested in the logistics of this operation.

However, he started with irrelevant praise for his dear leader, and I had to shut it off after "President Trump is the most attractive leader in the history of the world, and I listen to recordings of his voice while I choke myself to climax."

Did he ever get around to anything worthwhile?
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Seemingly every meeting this admin has starts out with kissing Trump's ass like this
 
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volgr said:
I have yet to see evidence we actually used bunker busters. Hopefully this "attack" was more of a PR stunt and had been worked through Iranian back channels before. At this time, Iran doesnt seem to be too worried about it. I think there would be a strong response if we actually obliterated their nuclear program.
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WTH?
 
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volgr said:
I have yet to see evidence we actually used bunker busters. Hopefully this "attack" was more of a PR stunt and had been worked through Iranian back channels before. At this time, Iran doesnt seem to be too worried about it. I think there would be a strong response if we actually obliterated their nuclear program.
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Lol!! Yeah I hear ya Ras....and Russia has the best military in the world, right?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
These people do this for a living. But I'm sure they are just winging it.
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There are also people who do it for a living that said the bunkers were too deep to destroy.

I dont know if they were destroyed or not and neither does anyone else who isnt an Iranian on the ground inspecting the site.
 
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