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KB5252 said:
I'm not trolling I promise. But I imagine this is tough. I'm sure your no fan of Israel, probably not of the regime either.

how does the average Iranian feel about what's happening?
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There’s certainly division among Iranians, but many including myself want regime change. That said, having it come at the hands of Israel and the U.S.? That’s far from ideal. It’s difficult to see Israel as liberators while they continue killing civilians in Iran and carry out what is a genocide in Palestine.

In a perfect world, the regime would collapse within days, civilian losses would be minimal, and a representative, hopeful government would take its place. That kind of outcome feels like a fantasy, but it’s still enough for people to hold onto hope.

But if this turns into a drawn-out war, and Iranians start dying by the tens of thousands, the mood on the ground will shift dramatically. If Israel can’t achieve a fast, efficient victory, this could quickly become a disaster, not just for Iranians, but for Israelis too. That’s likely why they’re pushing so hard for U.S. involvement, to accelerate the outcome or at least guarantee success.
 
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Persian Vol said:
There’s certainly division among Iranians, but many including myself want regime change. That said, having it come at the hands of Israel and the U.S.? That’s far from ideal. It’s difficult to see Israel as liberators while they continue killing civilians in Iran and carry out what is a genocide in Palestine.

In a perfect world, the regime would collapse within days, civilian losses would be minimal, and a representative, hopeful government would take its place. That kind of outcome feels like a fantasy, but it’s still enough for people to hold onto hope.

But if this turns into a drawn-out war, and Iranians start dying by the tens of thousands, the mood on the ground will shift dramatically. If Israel can’t achieve a fast, efficient victory, this could quickly become a disaster, not just for Iranians, but for Israelis too. That’s likely why they’re pushing so hard for U.S. involvement, to accelerate the outcome or at least guarantee success.
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Would you be for the US fully getting involved if it meant a much quicker end to the war and fall of the IRGC?

Do you know who the opposition is in Iran?
 
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Persian Vol said:
There’s certainly division among Iranians, but many including myself want regime change. That said, having it come at the hands of Israel and the U.S.? That’s far from ideal. It’s difficult to see Israel as liberators while they continue killing civilians in Iran and carry out what is a genocide in Palestine.

In a perfect world, the regime would collapse within days, civilian losses would be minimal, and a representative, hopeful government would take its place. That kind of outcome feels like a fantasy, but it’s still enough for people to hold onto hope.

But if this turns into a drawn-out war, and Iranians start dying by the tens of thousands, the mood on the ground will shift dramatically. If Israel can’t achieve a fast, efficient victory, this could quickly become a disaster, not just for Iranians, but for Israelis too. That’s likely why they’re pushing so hard for U.S. involvement, to accelerate the outcome or at least guarantee success.
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Obviously you know better about the internal situation of Iran than any of us, and I’ll gladly admit I’m mostly uneducated on the matter, but I really fear if regime change happens, it’s not gonna be for the better. I imagine it’s far more likely Iran is put under a military junta, than there will be a democracy.

Nice of a thought as it is, it just feels like a pipe dream for Iran to become a democracy.
 
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MAD said:




From an Iranian:

Hey Candace,Iranians are not uneducated savages.A large number of us speak English - and yes, even write it "perfectly" - and will use it when we communicate with non-Iranians. It's far more widely spoken than Arabic which I have no idea why you would even mention. Tehranis speak English very well. I didn't expect you to know this basic fact.Why are you talking about us like we're unintelligent sand-people without agency? Like we would have no reason to ask for IRIB to be destroyed? Do you even know what this "news station" did to us?IRIB aired forced confessions of torture victims. They said Mahsa Amini "died of health reasons". They called for the basijis to massacre teenage protesters calling for basic rights. They smeared rape and murder victims, like Nika Shakarami and Sarina Esmailzadeh. They worked with basijis to find, torture and kill Iranian civilians who dared oppose Khamenei. They covered up vital details of abuses from within the regime's torture chambers.IRIB is PROFOUNDLY DESPISED by the vast majority of Iran and everyone wanted them gone. If you had any interest in speaking with real iranians instead of pushing your literal ********, you might have known this before posting.This note came from a real Iranian. Not an agent, not Mossad. A real ****ing Iranians.Stop talking so overconfidently about a country you know NOTHING ABOUT.



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Yep she’s another loser who exposed herself like Carlson over the last few years
 
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Persian Vol said:
There’s certainly division among Iranians, but many including myself want regime change. That said, having it come at the hands of Israel and the U.S.? That’s far from ideal. It’s difficult to see Israel as liberators while they continue killing civilians in Iran and carry out what is a genocide in Palestine.

In a perfect world, the regime would collapse within days, civilian losses would be minimal, and a representative, hopeful government would take its place. That kind of outcome feels like a fantasy, but it’s still enough for people to hold onto hope.

But if this turns into a drawn-out war, and Iranians start dying by the tens of thousands, the mood on the ground will shift dramatically. If Israel can’t achieve a fast, efficient victory, this could quickly become a disaster, not just for Iranians, but for Israelis too. That’s likely why they’re pushing so hard for U.S. involvement, to accelerate the outcome or at least guarantee success.
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Where exactly is Palestine?
 
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Persian Vol said:
There’s certainly division among Iranians, but many including myself want regime change. That said, having it come at the hands of Israel and the U.S.? That’s far from ideal. It’s difficult to see Israel as liberators while they continue killing civilians in Iran and carry out what is a genocide in Palestine.

In a perfect world, the regime would collapse within days, civilian losses would be minimal, and a representative, hopeful government would take its place. That kind of outcome feels like a fantasy, but it’s still enough for people to hold onto hope.

But if this turns into a drawn-out war, and Iranians start dying by the tens of thousands, the mood on the ground will shift dramatically. If Israel can’t achieve a fast, efficient victory, this could quickly become a disaster, not just for Iranians, but for Israelis too. That’s likely why they’re pushing so hard for U.S. involvement, to accelerate the outcome or at least guarantee success.
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I think we understand that too and it may be why it looks like we're entering the arena. I want us to knock out the enrichment facilities and call Israel off.

I too hope a representative government can be formed. I don't blindly support Israel and know they are far from innocent. But I think they have executed this military action about as well as it can be in terms of going after military and regime targets.

Think going after critical infrastructure like oil was a bad idea.

I have known some Iranians though a couple of last jobs, good decent people.
 
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