Iran

[volbeast33]

Why doesnt Trump call up his Trumptilla to come help at the strait??

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LETS GO BABY!!!

 

[n_huffhines]

No, I know that there are Rinos who are subversives. If ;you are against us fighting against our enemies and threats to security, that is a bigger problem than the flaming libs. At least we can spot the looney left right away, the enemy within is much more destructive.

Trump is a RINO. RINO used to mean you're not a conservative, or not loyal to the ideology. Now in bizarro Trump world, it means that you aren't MAGA, or not loyal to the party/leader. Trump is not a cosnervative. He is the RINOiest RINO who ever RINO'd.

 

[volfanhill]

No, I know that there are Rinos who are subversives. If ;you are against us fighting against our enemies and threats to security, that is a bigger problem than the flaming libs. At least we can spot the looney left right away, the enemy within is much more destructive.

Which people have you voted for who have openly called for war with Iran while they were campaigning? Bc if they have been such a threat to us then certainly it was a major issue for you when deciding on a candidate to support.

 

[ButchPlz]

Missed your comment about Israel flattening a Christian neighborhood in Lebanon. Also waiting for your comment on them using cluster ammunition after you called out Iran for the same thing multiple times

The Catholics that make up the Christian population there aren't real Christians. Only good ol' boy megachurch southern baptists get to heaven. Get your religion right, heathen.

 

[Orangeslice13]

An @Orangeslice13 favorite

 

[n_huffhines]

The loyalty to the party thing that MAGA pushes is insane. I get why politicians want loyalty, but we as voters should not care (much) about party loyalty. When evaluating a politician on the RINO scale, the priorities for Republican voters should be (in no specific order):

- how he/she actually votes
- conservative ideology?
- loyalty to ideology vs. flexibility
- loyalty to America
- loyalty to constituents
- loyalty to the constitution
- etc.

And way down the list should be:

- loyalty to the Republican party

Sincerely, WGAF about that?

And just another funny thought. You could say Ron Paul was a RINO. It's not necessarily a pejorative. He agreed a lot with conservatism, but he was a classical liberal/libertarian who used the Republican label to win elections. He turned on conservatives all the time when it came to foreign policy, the fed, etc.

 

[Orangeslice13]

The loyalty to the party thing that MAGA pushes is insane. I get why politicians want loyalty, but we as voters should not care (much) about party loyalty. When evaluating a politician on the RINO scale, the priorities for Republican voters should be (in no specific order):

- how he/she actually votes
- conservative ideology?
- loyalty to ideology vs. flexibility
- loyalty to America
- loyalty to constituents
- loyalty to the constitution
- etc.

And way down the list should be:

- loyalty to the Republican party

Sincerely, WGAF about that?

And just another funny thought. You could say Ron Paul was a RINO. It's not necessarily a pejorative. He agreed a lot with conservatism, but he was a classical liberal/libertarian who used the Republican label to win elections. He turned on conservatives all the time when it came to foreign policy, the fed, etc.

Don’t act like this is anything new.
45 years ago my grandmother had a bumper sticker that said “vote democrat, the ass you save may be your own “.

Both parties count on loyalty to the party above country.

 

[MontyPython]

Like I said the other day, the death and destruction that Iran has caused to Americans and others over the last 5 decades to date is imminent.

Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone.

Do you really think we've been lily white all these years? We shot down an Iranian civilian plane with 250 people on board for Christ sake. And, yeah, the Shah of Iran was our guy. He was essentially an autocrat and highly politically repressive. A bit corrupt as well. Iranians overthrew our guy and that made us angry.

SEE: Imperialism.

I'm not saying Iran has leaders that shouldn't be neutered, but let's not pretend that moral high ground is all ours.

We've been in a mostly cold war with Iran for a long time. All's fair in love and war, as they say.

Here is a fact-based, historically grounded list of major instances where the United States has directly caused death, destruction, or military harm to Iran (or inside Iranian territory) since the 1979 Iranian Revolution. I’ll keep it specific and avoid exaggeration—because the reality is serious enough without distortion.

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Major U.S. actions causing death/destruction in Iran (since 1979)​

1. Support during the Iran–Iraq War (1980–1988)​

• The U.S. did not fight Iran directly at first, but:
  • Provided intelligence and indirect support to Iraq under Saddam Hussein.
  • Helped tilt the balance in a war that killed over 1 million people total, with Iran suffering very heavy losses. (Encyclopedia Britannica)

While the U.S. did not directly kill those people, its involvement is widely debated as contributing to the scale of destruction.

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2. Operation Nimble Archer (1987)​

• U.S. Navy destroyed two Iranian oil platforms
• These were economic and military targets
• No confirmed deaths, but major infrastructure destruction (Wikipedia)

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3. Operation Praying Mantis (1988)​

• Largest direct U.S.–Iran naval battle in history
• U.S. forces:
  • Sank or crippled multiple Iranian ships
  • Destroyed offshore platforms
• ~56 Iranian personnel killed (Wikipedia)

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4. Iran Air Flight 655 shootdown (1988)​

• U.S. warship shot down a civilian airliner
• 290 civilians killed (including children) (Wikipedia)

This is one of the deadliest single incidents directly caused by the U.S. against Iranians.

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5. Sanctions (1979–present)​

• Long-term U.S. sanctions have:
  • Severely impacted Iran’s economy
  • Restricted access to medicine, trade, and infrastructure
• These are not direct killings, but are widely argued to contribute to:
  • Increased mortality
  • Economic hardship

Exact death tolls are unknown and debated, and should not be stated as precise figures.

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6. Covert and cyber operations (2000s–present)​

Examples include:

• Cyberattacks like the Stuxnet virus targeting nuclear facilities
• Assassination campaigns (often attributed to U.S. + allies)

Effects:

• Infrastructure damage
• Some Iranian scientists killed (though responsibility is often shared or disputed)

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7. Direct strikes in Iran (2020s–present escalation)​

2025–2026 U.S. strikes​

• U.S. bombed Iranian nuclear-related sites in 2025 (HISTORY)

Ongoing 2026 conflict (recent reporting)​

• Over 1,300 Iranian deaths reported in current war conditions (The Guardian)
• Includes both military and civilian casualties

Example incident:​

• U.S. strike on a school (2026):
  • ~165 civilians killed, many children (AP News)

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Summary (verified, grounded)​

Direct U.S.-caused deaths (clearly documented)​

• Iran Air Flight 655: 290 civilians
• Operation Praying Mantis: ~56 military personnel
• 2026 war (so far): 1000+ deaths (mixed causes, including U.S. strikes)

Destruction​

• Oil platforms destroyed (1987)
• Naval fleet damage (1988)
• Nuclear and military infrastructure (2020s)
• Economic system heavily impacted via sanctions

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Important context (to keep this accurate)​

• The U.S.–Iran conflict is mutual and ongoing, not one-sided:
  • Iran has also supported groups responsible for killing Americans and others
• Many deaths attributed to “U.S. vs Iran” come from:
  • Proxy wars (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, etc.)
  • Not all are direct U.S. actions inside Iran itself

 

[rikberry31]

Trump is a RINO. RINO used to mean you're not a conservative, or not loyal to the ideology. Now in bizarro Trump world, it means that you aren't MAGA, or not loyal to the party/leader. Trump is not a cosnervative. He is the RINOiest RINO who ever RINO'd.

The R stands for Republican as in the party not conservative. One thing that Trump has done is that he remade the Republican party. It is now a blue collar common sense party. You're right he is not a conservative or an ideologue, his a pragmatic businessman with common sense and he has remade the Republican party into that. He has co-opted ever common sense position and forced the Democrat to take the radical looney tune position on all of them. He has used other people hatred of him to his own advantage. If he said he was against torturing and killing puppies, the people would advocate for it.
In all practicality Trump destroyed the Democrat party and given the Republicans a makeover. He defeated both sides at the same time.

 

[lawgator1]

The country is only around 30-40% Muslim with over 70% of the country preferring separation of church and state.

It’s not as full of Islamic extremists as you’ve been lead to believe

Let's assume you are right on your rough numbers, and say that only 25 % of the Muslim population would in any way qualify as extreme.

So that's .25 X .4 X 90,000,000.

9,000,000 Islamic extremists. And that assumes that we have not created more of them through this action.

 

[MontyPython]

Why doesnt Trump call up his Trumptilla to come help at the strait??

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Pure genius. You're on to something.

That reminds me... What happened to blowing up all the Venezuelan fishing boats evil fentanyl drug runners who torture puppies?

 

[volfanhill]

The R stands for Republican as in the party not conservative. One thing that Trump has done is that he remade the Republican party. It is now a blue collar common sense party. You're right he is not a conservative or an ideologue, his a pragmatic businessman with common sense and he has remade the Republican party into that. He has co-opted ever common sense position and forced the Democrat to take the radical looney tune position on all of them. He has used other people hatred of him to his own advantage. If he said he was against torturing and killing puppies, the people would advocate for it.
In all practicality Trump destroyed the Democrat party and given the Republicans a makeover. He defeated both sides at the same time.

lol @ blue collar and common sense

 

[rikberry31]

Which people have you voted for who have openly called for war with Iran while they were campaigning? Bc if they have been such a threat to us then certainly it was a major issue for you when deciding on a candidate to support.

Woodrow Wilson campaigned on keeping us out of war. The vast majority was not interested in fighting WWII before December 7th, the Japanese attacked us and Germans became a real threat and we had to deal with it.

 

[volfanhill]

Woodrow Wilson campaigned on keeping us out of war. The vast majority was not interested in fighting WWII before December 7th, the Japanese attacked us and Germans became a real threat and we had to deal with it.

Oh yea this is totally the same as that

 

[volfanhill]

 

[volfanhill]

 

[MontyPython]

But only if they are of an attractive woman all alone telling you exactly what you want to hear. Those influencers are known to be so smart and informed

That was wife #2 for me. Oops.

 

[BeardedVol]

The R stands for Republican as in the party not conservative. One thing that Trump has done is that he remade the Republican party. It is now a blue collar common sense party. You're right he is not a conservative or an ideologue, his a pragmatic businessman with common sense and he has remade the Republican party into that. He has co-opted ever common sense position and forced the Democrat to take the radical looney tune position on all of them. He has used other people hatred of him to his own advantage. If he said he was against torturing and killing puppies, the people would advocate for it.
In all practicality Trump destroyed the Democrat party and given the Republicans a makeover. He defeated both sides at the same time.

Trump has tapped an unprecedented 13 billionaires for his administration. Here's who they are

President-elect Donald Trump has assembled the wealthiest presidential administration in modern history, with at least 13 billionaires set to take top government posts.

abcnews.com

Multimillionaires Will Decide Tax Policy In GOP-Led Congressional Committees - Americans For Tax Fairness

Average Net Worth of Republican Members on Tax-Writing Panels Is Nearly $15 million–Richest Will Save Millions from Trump Cuts Multimillionaires will be making tax policy for working Americans, most prominently by pushing through extensions of the expiring provisions of the 2017 Trump-GOP tax...

americansfortaxfairness.org

 

[Berry4Heisman14]

Being against needless foreign wars is now subversive? Wtf

And they told me it would never get to this point...

They’re brainwashed to think if someone doesn’t agree with their lord and savior Donald Trump then they’re a liberal. Agree with him or you’re the enemy. It’s weak and pathetic

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Woodrow Wilson campaigned on keeping us out of war. The vast majority was not interested in fighting WWII before December 7th, the Japanese attacked us and Germans became a real threat and we had to deal with it.

That's a tremendously ignorant comparison