Iran

[Vol8188]

No need to... just calling you out on the obvious Trump administration lies you gulp through a fire hose.

What lies? You don’t think we tried to negotiate before bombing them?

 

[Vol8188]

Fight an asymmetric war. They can't beat us head-on, but neither could Afghanistan. Neither could Vietnam. How'd those little "excursions" turn out.

What’s again Vietnam had significant outside backing from Russia and China. Iran doesn’t. Iran cannot continue this forever like you falsely believe

 

[Orangeslice13]

Don't worry, we have a plan for harvesting the produce: immigrants!!

Lololol
So they cancelled a bit of work visas creating a problem that they are now coming to the rescue on?

Classic

 

[adam.vol]

lol View attachment 819949tell us more about the absurdity of controlled demolition at the world trade centers.

Right. Tell me how the media has been reliable in times of crisis.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Right. Tell me how the media has been reliable in times of crisis.

Ok.
Now you’re making my argument for making fun of PJs post.

 

[MontyPython]

What lies? You don’t think we tried to negotiate before bombing them?

You stated that Iran "refused multiple reasonable negotiations".

Provide the details of these so called reasonable terms they refused. Links appreciated.

I mean, the Trump administration would *never* try to force an unreasonable deal down another country's throat? Just ask Greenland or our 51st state to the North.

 

[MontyPython]

What’s again Vietnam had significant outside backing from Russia and China. Iran doesn’t. Iran cannot continue this forever like you falsely believe

Why not? What lead you to this grandeous conclusion?

And what outside backing helped the Taliban beat us in Afghanistan?

Could it be that maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't have been fighting either one of these wars in the first place. Afghanistan started off ok with a goal of getting Osama and punishing those who aided and abetted him, but then it became what? Nation building.

If Iranians don't like their government, then *they* can attempt to overthrow it. Not our job.

See: American Revolution.

Mmhmm ...

 

[Smokey123]

It's funny that @Vol8188 keeps responding to everything else and ignoring this. Even just saying you've had a change of heart for x reasons would seem to be better than pretending it didn't happen

I thought he put me on ignore after I did that but then he started responding to me again the past couple days

 

[MAD]

What’s again Vietnam had significant outside backing from Russia and China. Iran doesn’t. Iran cannot continue this forever like you falsely believe

Facts: Iran’s ballistic missile capability has fallen by about 90% and its drone capability by around 95% since the start of the US-Israeli war.

 

[MontyPython]

Facts: Iran’s ballistic missile capability has fallen by about 90% and its drone capability by around 95% since the start of the US-Israeli war.

Fact: the devil's in the details.


There *has* been a very large drop in Iran’s missile and drone launches, but it’s **not clear that this means 90–95% of the capability itself has been destroyed**. The drop in activity could be a mix of **real damage + strategic conservation**.

Here’s what credible reporting currently suggests.

---

## 1. The “90% / 95% reduction” claim

Some U.S. officials say strikes have heavily degraded Iran’s systems.

- U.S. officials have claimed **Iran’s ballistic missile capability is down about 90% and drones about 95%** after sustained U.S.–Israeli strikes.
- Israeli and U.S. military data show **missile launches falling roughly 90–92% from the first day of the war** (e.g., from ~480 missiles to ~40 in some later days). ([Wikipedia][2])
- Israeli security officials say current attacks are sometimes **only 1–2 missiles per launch**, compared with large salvos early in the war. ([The Wall Street Journal][3])
- Airstrikes have targeted **missile factories, launchers, and command sites** to reduce Iran’s ability to coordinate attacks. ([TIME][4])

So the **drop in launches is real and widely reported**.

---

## 2. But that does NOT necessarily mean the arsenal itself fell by 90–95%

The key distinction analysts emphasize:

**Launch rate ↓ ≠ total arsenal destroyed**

Several reasons the drop could be misleading.

### A. Launchers and command systems were hit

Many strikes focused on **launchers and bases**, not necessarily the missiles themselves.

* Estimates from Israeli sources say **60–75% of missile launchers may have been destroyed or neutralized**. ([India Today][5])
* If launchers are destroyed or constantly targeted, Iran may **possess missiles but struggle to launch them safely**.

### B. Iran may be rationing weapons

Analysts say Tehran may be **saving missiles for a long war or a decisive moment**.

Possible reasons:

* Preserve deterrence after the war
* Avoid running out early
* Hold missiles in reserve for escalation (e.g., against U.S. bases or Gulf shipping)

One analysis says the drop likely reflects **“a combination of launcher losses and rationing”**. ([India Today][5])

### C. Smaller, more precise strikes

Iran appears to have shifted tactics:

* fewer missiles per strike
* heavier or cluster warheads
* mobile launchers and dispersed attacks ([India Today][5])

That suggests **adaptation**, not total collapse.

---

## 3. Leadership disruption also matters

Early strikes reportedly hit Iranian leadership and command nodes, which can temporarily reduce coordination.

* Analysts note a **disrupted command-and-control structure** after early strikes in Tehran. ([Wikipedia][2])

This can reduce launch rates even if weapons still exist.

---

## 4. What most analysts think right now

The emerging consensus is roughly:

* **Launch rate:** down ~90%
* **Launcher infrastructure:** heavily damaged
* **Missile stockpile:** uncertain and likely still significant

In other words:

> Iran’s *ability to fire missiles frequently* has dropped sharply, but it’s unclear how much of its **actual arsenal** has been destroyed.

---

**Bottom line:**

* The “90–95%” figure refers mostly to **activity levels**, not necessarily the remaining arsenal.
* The reduction is likely due to **three factors at once**:

1. Destruction of launchers and infrastructure
2. Constant airstrike pressure
3. Iran conserving missiles for later stages of the war.

 

[NashVol11]

Fact: the devil's in the details.


There *has* been a very large drop in Iran’s missile and drone launches, but it’s **not clear that this means 90–95% of the capability itself has been destroyed**. The drop in activity could be a mix of **real damage + strategic conservation**.

Here’s what credible reporting currently suggests.

---

## 1. The “90% / 95% reduction” claim

Some U.S. officials say strikes have heavily degraded Iran’s systems.

- U.S. officials have claimed **Iran’s ballistic missile capability is down about 90% and drones about 95%** after sustained U.S.–Israeli strikes.
- Israeli and U.S. military data show **missile launches falling roughly 90–92% from the first day of the war** (e.g., from ~480 missiles to ~40 in some later days). ([Wikipedia][2])
- Israeli security officials say current attacks are sometimes **only 1–2 missiles per launch**, compared with large salvos early in the war. ([The Wall Street Journal][3])
- Airstrikes have targeted **missile factories, launchers, and command sites** to reduce Iran’s ability to coordinate attacks. ([TIME][4])

So the **drop in launches is real and widely reported**.

---

## 2. But that does NOT necessarily mean the arsenal itself fell by 90–95%

The key distinction analysts emphasize:

**Launch rate ↓ ≠ total arsenal destroyed**

Several reasons the drop could be misleading.

### A. Launchers and command systems were hit

Many strikes focused on **launchers and bases**, not necessarily the missiles themselves.

* Estimates from Israeli sources say **60–75% of missile launchers may have been destroyed or neutralized**. ([India Today][5])
* If launchers are destroyed or constantly targeted, Iran may **possess missiles but struggle to launch them safely**.

### B. Iran may be rationing weapons

Analysts say Tehran may be **saving missiles for a long war or a decisive moment**.

Possible reasons:

* Preserve deterrence after the war
* Avoid running out early
* Hold missiles in reserve for escalation (e.g., against U.S. bases or Gulf shipping)

One analysis says the drop likely reflects **“a combination of launcher losses and rationing”**. ([India Today][5])

### C. Smaller, more precise strikes

Iran appears to have shifted tactics:

* fewer missiles per strike
* heavier or cluster warheads
* mobile launchers and dispersed attacks ([India Today][5])

That suggests **adaptation**, not total collapse.

---

## 3. Leadership disruption also matters

Early strikes reportedly hit Iranian leadership and command nodes, which can temporarily reduce coordination.

* Analysts note a **disrupted command-and-control structure** after early strikes in Tehran. ([Wikipedia][2])

This can reduce launch rates even if weapons still exist.

---

## 4. What most analysts think right now

The emerging consensus is roughly:

* **Launch rate:** down ~90%
* **Launcher infrastructure:** heavily damaged
* **Missile stockpile:** uncertain and likely still significant

In other words:

> Iran’s *ability to fire missiles frequently* has dropped sharply, but it’s unclear how much of its **actual arsenal** has been destroyed.

---

**Bottom line:**

* The “90–95%” figure refers mostly to **activity levels**, not necessarily the remaining arsenal.
* The reduction is likely due to **three factors at once**:

1. Destruction of launchers and infrastructure
2. Constant airstrike pressure
3. Iran conserving missiles for later stages of the war.

I was going to point this out too, our propaganda ministers keep conflating "90% fewer missiles fired" and "90% of capability destroyed"

 

[NorthDallas40]

I long for the days where these folks don't sound like complete loons.

That’s interesting because I long for the days during election season when we had “no new wars” promises instead of just another bunch of neocons.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I thought he put me on ignore after I did that but then he started responding to me again the past couple days

He supposedly put me in ignore also only to talk my ear off about three days later.

 

[Smokey123]

He supposedly put me in ignore also only to talk my ear off about three days later.

That checks out. It’s an interesting pattern lol

 

[DuckInAPen]

That’s interesting because I long for the days during election season when we had “no new wars” promises instead of just another bunch of neocons.

Yeah, but that's just what an SJW would long for, isn't it?

 

[allstar34]

Trump adviser warns of possible Israel nuclear escalation in Iran conflict

David Sacks has warned of Israel contemplating using a nuclear weapon in the Iran War as the conflict continues.

www.newsweek.com

If this happens, I called it yesterday. I beat out Crypto Czar and Podcaster David Sacks.

 

[DuckInAPen]

If this happens, I called it yesterday. I beat out Crypto Czar and Podcaster David Sacks.

If WWIII kicks off, you can gloat that you called it first.

 

[MAD]

If I didn’t know better, I’d think there are many on here who hate America.

 

[Orangeslice13]

If this happens, I called it yesterday. I beat out Crypto Czar and Podcaster David Sacks.

You can flip a coin to make decisions and beat out those morons

 

[volfanhill]

If I didn’t know better, I’d think there are many on here who hate America.

If i didn't know better i would think there are posters in here who only pretend to care about genocide when it coincides with their foreign policy beliefs. And then think they have standing to lecture others on the subject when they have said not a word about genocide in China and Africa and wanting us to intervene

 

[volfanhill]

 

[NorthDallas40]

If i didn't know better i would think there are posters in here who only pretend to care about genocide when it coincides with their foreign policy beliefs. And then think they have standing to lecture others on the subject when they have said not a word about genocide in China and Africa and wanting us to intervene

Let’s not forget the COVID lectures also!

 

[NashVol11]

If I didn’t know better, I’d think there are many on here who hate America.

Yeah, it's the people like this who hate this country so much that they obsess over replacing it with a 1950s version

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

What lies? You don’t think we tried to negotiate before bombing them?

Kushner?

 

[NashVol11]

Like, it's so funny that certain conservatives will complain about every major city, every blue state, Muslims, trans people, gay people, Somalis, Hispanics, Indians, black people and pretty much every other minority who make up the population of this country and then say it's OTHER people who "hate America"