Iran

[NashVol11]

 

[85SugarVol]

In fact, I would rather square off with China or Russia than Israel.

This position is not at all rooted in reality.

 

[BeardedVol]

You have no clue how badly the Jews could f'up any of the other Mid East countries that messed with them if they had free reign. If it weren't for the U.S. playing footsie and preventing them, Hell we tried to stop them in Gaza. Israel would have destroyed Iran a long time ago. In fact, I would rather square off with China or Russia than Israel.

Lol, in a 'total war' scenario, Israel would cease to exist as a country relatively quickly.



In a non-total war scenario, a Naval blockade would starve Israel in a matter of weeks given that nearly 100% of all imports and exports travel through Red Sea or Mediterranean ports.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

This is going to just look worse and worse and will only make things better for Putin.

How?

The action in Iran weakens Russia from not only having a strategic economic/military partner but they can no longer get the drones they have been using in Ukraine.

 

[adam.vol]

Ah, so you do understand supply and demand. You drove by that response earlier in the thread like you didn't understand or were dismissing it.

I understand the concept. I choose not to fall for every crisis created by our federal government without questioning. It’s become too frequent to mark off as coincidence every time.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Lol, in a 'total war' scenario, Israel would cease to exist as a country relatively quickly.

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In a non-total war scenario, a Naval blockade would starve Israel in a matter of weeks given that nearly 100% of all imports and exports travel through Red Sea or Mediterranean ports.

You seriously underestimate the Isreali military.

 

[Smokey123]

You seriously underestimate the Isreali military.

You don’t think if the US tried to completely wipe Israel off the map they couldn’t do it?

 

[BeardedVol]

How? The action in Iran weakens Russia from not only having a strategic economic/military partner but they can no longer get the drones they have been using in Ukraine.

Russia has been building their own drones for years now.

Iran frustrated as Russia produces Shahed-136 drones | The Jerusalem Post

Western officials say that Tehran feels abandoned by its ally after Moscow began improving the drone model and producing it for cheaper.

www.jpost.com

They'll gladly trade Iran's existence for the cashflow from an increased price of Urals oil.

 

[hog88]

You seriously underestimate the Isreali military.

They have no over the horizon capability and any US v Israel war would be a short lived one with the US decimating them. I don't think they even have the capability to hit us with a nuke but I do believe Israel has cyber and covert capabilities that would hurt us here but they couldn't hope to win an all out war with the US.

 

[n_huffhines]

You have no clue how badly the Jews could f'up any of the other Mid East countries that messed with them if they had free reign. If it weren't for the U.S. playing footsie and preventing them, Hell we tried to stop them in Gaza. Israel would have destroyed Iran a long time ago. In fact, I would rather square off with China or Russia than Israel.

The Jews? LOL. If I had said that, I'd never shake the allegations.

When did we try to stop Israel in Gaza? I remember giving them military aid for my whole life and no executive ever even threatening to cut it off because of Gaza. Kinda funny to pretend that we "tried to stop them in Gaza" because we temporarily paused one shipment one time to stop one offensive. You're talking about an aspect of our relationship that refutes what you're saying, if you actually have your facts straight. That's the one time we tried to rein them in, they defied us and proceeded with the Rafah offensive, and we continued to give them our tit.

They're literally committing genocide with our support and have us going to war with Iran, but keep telling yourself that we're stopping them from doing anything.

 

[hog88]

You don’t think if the US tried to completely wipe Israel off the map they couldn’t do it?

That's the thing, we could wipe almost any county off the map without using nukes IF WE WANTED TO.

 

[MontyPython]

You seriously underestimate the Isreali military.

Wow. Just wow.

We would roll Israel in 3 seconds bro.

It's New Jersey with palm trees.

 

[Smokey123]

That's the thing, we could wipe almost any county off the map without using nukes IF WE WANTED TO.

Correct

 

[BeardedVol]

You seriously underestimate the Isreali military.

Not really. I'm just aware of their capabilities, limitations, and their force makeup. The vast majority of their weaponry is US produced. The have a dense urban footprint that contains the majority of their population. If we decided to drop MIRVs on them we'd overwhelm the iron dome and their population centers would cease to exist.

They have no carriers. and they only have 5 diesel-electric submarines. We could cut off all seaborne trade to Israel, with a single carrier group.

 

[n_huffhines]

It’s just price gouging to take advantage of a man made crisis. Take the “kick me” sign off your back. It’s OK to hold the thieves responsible.

You're talking about price collusion which does not work in competitive markets and this is a competitive market. Price collusion is even hard for groups like OPEC to pull off, let alone US companies.

 

[MAD]

That's the thing, we could wipe almost any county off the map without using nukes IF WE WANTED TO.

How would we do against the Goa'uld?

 

[85SugarVol]

You seriously underestimate the Isreali military.

They are the premier military power in the region. They operate an elite Air Force, one of the finest in the world.

That being said… you know better than many the military capabilities of the United States.

They can’t match our reach, or our power, with regards to strike capabilities.
Not to mention they would have absolutely no answer to our Submarine fleet, which would bombard them with impunity.

 

[appvol]

Why did you cut off the end, with the significant and conflicting statements? Was it because Trump referred to Tomahawks and how Iran apparently has them?

I asked AI if the US has confirmed if it was their Tomahawk that hit the school like you said which was a lie.

 

[85SugarVol]

They have no over the horizon capability and any US v Israel war would be a short lived one with the US decimating them. I don't think they even have the capability to hit us with a nuke but I do believe Israel has cyber and covert capabilities that would hurt us here but they couldn't hope to win an all out war with the US.

We would reduce their ranks by 1/10th?

Roman generals would “decimate” the legions that fought poorly - they would kill 1 out of every 10 soldiers at random.
That’s where the negative connotation associated with “decimate” comes from.

But it really means nothing more than to cut by 10%.

Widely misused, just felt like using your post to make an example. So there.

Use “obliterate” next time.

 

[85SugarVol]

I asked AI if the US has confirmed if it was their Tomahawk that hit the school like you said which was a lie.

Stop. Listening. To. AI.

Have we already forgotten the last clown that did nothing but parrot “But AI told me…”

 

[rikberry31]

Oil is infinitely more elastic than oil products? What?!

Someone tell Rik where plastic and polyester comes from.

Buddy I know where plastic comes from. Unlike you, I also have an excellent grasp on the laws of economics.

 

[Volnanza]

MAGAmnesia claims another.
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Trump's allies want Biden investigated for selling oil reserves to China even though Trump did the same thing in 2017

While Trump and his allies ripped Biden for selling oil reserves to Sinopec, records show the Trump administration sold 550,000 barrels to PetroChina.

www.businessinsider.com

This has nothing to do with what I said. I said Trump filled it. He did. It was full when Biden took over. Biden then drained it and sold to China. Fact!

 

[appvol]

Stop. Listening. To. AI.

Have we already forgotten the last clown that did nothing but parrot “But AI told me…”

Still doesn’t change the fact that no one knows since nothing has been confirmed

 

[rikberry31]

Lol, in a 'total war' scenario, Israel would cease to exist as a country relatively quickly.

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In a non-total war scenario, a Naval blockade would starve Israel in a matter of weeks given that nearly 100% of all imports and exports travel through Red Sea or Mediterranean ports.

That’s what the Arabs thought a couple of times.

 

[hog88]

We would reduce their ranks by 1/10th?

Roman generals would “decimate” the legions that fought poorly - they would kill 1 out of every 10 soldiers at random.
That’s where the negative connotation associated with “decimate” comes from.

But it really means nothing more than to cut by 10%.

Widely misused, just felt like using your post to make an example. So there.

Use “obliterate” next time.

Been saving that one waiting for a chance haven't ya?