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n_huffhines said:
He did this before in the Israel thread. He was trying to deny their influence and then he turned it into "our leaders willingly support" Israel and therefore they don't control us.

They do have a lot of influence over us specifically because our leaders are willing.
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What I hear you saying is that it’s disgusting that our government supports Israel and they only do it because they control our government.
 
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n_huffhines said:
They encouraged us and literally gave us intel relating to those elusive WMD's. I would say you can't conclude either way for sure...but it fits perfectly into the narrative that we do Israel's bidding, which you resist at all turns, despite us constantly putting Israel first and America second.

What evidence do you have that we didn't do it because of Israel? The stated reasons we went in were BS, so what exactly are you buying?
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Well we stated our flawed intelligence to go in one.

You just hate Israel and have fallen for this stupid conspiracy that they are running our government. It's moronic. They have influence. Just like England does. They aren't dictating anything. The Bush admin knowingly lied and twisted intelligence. We know this. They did that bc they wanted saddam out. Not bc of some allegiance to Israel
 
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Orangeredblooded said:
When I served, the government contractors that worked alongside of us, made a lot more money than us lowly employee job students (that’s what I got out of butchplz’s posts). I was a military wife, member and daughter at the start of Desert Shield and Storm. Yea, we had it easy training for a job for the civilian world when we were discharged. I normally like his posts and don’t think he realizes he insulted the Veterns on here, but he did. It’s not a job fair.
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Did you read all of the posts, or only certain ones? Because if we're going to admit there is enormous bureaucratic waste in the military, then some of that waste by default has to be in "human capital".

There are many "Veterns" that are doing useless work. If you want to argue that that is not true, then we're not even at a reasonable starting point.
 
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MAD said:
In Israel all citizens use the bomb shelters. Jews, Muslims, Christians, atheists, everyone.

If you mean Gaza, do they have shelters or are they too busy building rockets to attack Israel and building underground tunnels?
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There were several reports during the last Iranian barrage of Palestinians being turned away from shelters in Israel.
 
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volfanhill said:
Well we stated our flawed intelligence to go in one.

You just hate Israel and have fallen for this stupid conspiracy that they are running our government. It's moronic. They have influence. Just like England does. They aren't dictating anything. The Bush admin knowingly lied and twisted intelligence. We know this. They did that bc they wanted saddam out. Not bc of some allegiance to Israel
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I just hate Israel....because they do all this bad **** and they are able to convince us to help them do it and for us to pay for it. I didn't start out at a position of hating Israel. I wouldn't say I hated them until about 2024.

No, they don't have influence "just like England does." Nobody has influence like Israel does. Nobody gets the benefits that Israel gets. We give Israel like $4b a year when they aren't committing genocide. We give England like 1% of that. You're not paying attention or you are lying. I think you just found out Israel wanted us to invade Iraq, LOL, and this information does nothing to sway you. Take pause, bro. You don't have to buy into conspiracy theories to accept the reality that we are putting Israel first. Nobody is saying we put England first. That's not a thing.

"They aren't dictating anything" is moving the goalposts and unprovable. The Bush admin knowingly lying and twisting intelligence doesn't mean it wasn't at the behest of Israel. You understand this, right? You're just guessing. You're not proving anything with these tidbits.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I just hate Israel....because they do all this bad **** and they are able to convince us to help them do it and for us to pay for it. I didn't start out at a position of hating Israel. I wouldn't say I hated them until about 2024.

No, they don't have influence "just like England does." Nobody has influence like Israel does. Nobody gets the benefits that Israel gets. We give Israel like $4b a year when they aren't committing genocide. We give England like 1% of that. You're not paying attention or you are lying. I think you just found out Israel wanted us to invade Iraq, LOL, and this information does nothing to sway you. Take pause, bro. You don't have to buy into conspiracy theories to accept the reality that we are putting Israel first. Nobody is saying we put England first. That's not a thing.

"They aren't dictating anything" is moving the goalposts. The Bush admin knowingly lying and twisting intelligence doesn't mean it wasn't at the behest of Israel. You understand this, right? You're just guessing. You're not proving anything with these tidbits.
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You hate Israel all right. We knew this
 
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MAD said:
Lies.

Read up on your history, Arial Sharon the PM of Israel at the time was telling Bush NOT TO INVADE.
www.nadaveyal.com

Israel and the Iraq War: A Lie That Won't Die

Iran’s foreign minister revived this week the claim that Israel drives America’s wars — and what Ariel Sharon told me on a flight back from Washington before Iraq
www.nadaveyal.com www.nadaveyal.com
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www.c-span.org

User Clip: Benjamin Netanyahu projects the benefits of War in Iraq, 2002

If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region. ... the first victory in Afghanistan makes the second victory in Iraq that much easier... and therefore I think that the choice of Iraq is a good choice."
www.c-span.org www.c-span.org
 
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Austin mass shooter Ndiaga Diagne entered US during Clinton admin., became citizen under Obama — despite string of busts​


The gunman behind Austin’s possible terror-related mass shooting entered the US and cemented his legal immigration status under Democrat administrations — despite a growing criminal record.

Senegalese national Ndiaga Diagne, 53, arrived in America on March 13, 2000, on a B-2 tourist visa during the Clinton administration, a source familiar with his immigration history told The Post on Sunday.

Diagne — who killed two people and wounded 14 more during his rampage outside a Texas bar early Sunday — then became a lawful permanent resident on an IR-6 visa in June 2006 when he married a US citizen, the source said.

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Ndiaga Diagne was identified as the gunman who killed two people and injured 14 others during a mass shooting at a bar in Austin, Texas.

He had already racked up at least one arrest before that, for illegal vending in June 2001 in New York City, law-enforcement sources said.

He then went on to lodge a string of other arrests in the Big Apple between 2008 and 2016 — but that didn’t stop him becoming a naturalized US citizen on April 5, 2013 — around the start of former President Barack Obama’s second term, sources said. Those three arrests are sealed, sources said.

Diagne also was arrested in Texas at some point on undisclosed charges, sources said.


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Austin mass shooter Ndiaga Diagne entered US during Clinton admin., became citizen under Obama — despite string of busts

The gunman behind Austin’s possible terror-related mass shooting entered the US and cemented his legal immigration status under Democrat administrations — despite a growing criminal record.
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OrangeTsar said:
Starlink can‘t be shut off. Oh, wait, I forgot how much the left hates Elon.
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Elon being what he is doesn't matter. There are 90 million people in Iran and how many starlink receivers left? And there's this:
www.france24.com

How Iran jammed Starlink (and how Iranians are trying to get around it)

After shutting down the internet, the Iranian government is now attempting to jam the Starlink satellite service made free to Iranians by the company. Iranians are now seeking ways to circumvent this…
www.france24.com www.france24.com
 
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BeardedVol said:
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You should probably stick to topics where you have actual technical knowledge, limited as those may be.
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Oh I have plenty of technical knowledge. I’ve got the certifications to prove it. Heavy jamming around Tehran but they don’t have enough jammers to cover the whole country. And even where it is being jammed; there is between a 30 to 80% packet loss. Which means 20 to 70 percent of packets get through. And under the TCP/IP protocol; dropped packets get resent until confirmed. This means that access is slowed dramatically but still can get through. No 4K streaming video usually but text and news will trickle through. Same as when your cellphone is showing 1 or 2 bars.
I used to teach computer networking for ITT FWIW
 
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