Iran

That was a good read.


Here is the whole post for people that don’t have X.



Some thoughts:

1. Iran’s dilemma: Iran does not want to absorb the first strike like it always does. At the same time, it does not want to be seen as the “aggressor.” Tehran wants the option to hit and still claim it was responding.

2. USS Gerald R. Ford is not yet in the CENTCOM theater. Many of its air wing assets remain in the U.S., with others still en route to the Middle East.

3. If Iran intends to launch a preemptive or surprise strike, logic suggests it would prefer to act before Ford links up with the Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group and fully expands U.S. combat power in theater.

4.If Iran strikes first, even under a preemptive justification, it hands the U.S. and Israel the cleanest political and military case for a large scale coordinated response. That could turn into a self inflicted strategic disaster for Tehran.

5. The 2 week timeline
Iran says it needs roughly 2 weeks to formulate a response to the latest U.S. proposals. That buys time. It may also be operational cover.

6. Israel does not trust Iran’s timeline or messaging. If Israeli intelligence sees credible signs of imminent missile or drone launch preparations, Israel will strike first independently.

7.The bottom line, the next few days to 2 weeks could shift rapidly and unexpectedly and we may see many surprises
My concern isn’t the Iranians, but the proximity of all the warships in close proximity. It sounds like the Russians, Chinese and Iranians will be conducting naval exercises together, that’s a recipe for disaster. It’s kind of the Fred Thompson line from The Hunt For Red October “This business will get out of control and we will be lucky to live through it.” I think and hope this is all posturing by Trump, I don’t think he wants a full scale w/ anyone, nor do I see this as a “Wag the Dog” situation either, he’s been upfront with the Iranians about his expectations and in the past he has followed through when his expectations weren’t met. Hopefully, this show of force allows the Iranians to see that they have very few options that don’t end with them annihilated and they act accordingly.
 
So Iran is potentually using America's/Israel's playbook?

Would it count as a pre-emptive strike for them if we hit them less than a year ago?
I don’t really know, but I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be able to set off a car bomb w/o Israelis knowing that is was happening before hand. The Iranians were completely compromised before, I doubt much has changed now.
 
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Never cite Drop Site, never cite Ryan Grim, they know who butters their bread.

As a mod I wish you questioned both sides.
I do question both sides. What you want is a fairness doctrine which doesn't exist. You misunderstand my role

My dad is the same age and has AOL. It's completely in the realm of possibility for a boomer to use it and get hacked. Your questioning of sources is hilarious
 
Our leaders are so tech illiterate. Watching them interview the heads of tech companies is completely embarrassing.
I keep picturing Bolton sitting in his home office getting mad, asking “Who is this a$$hole from Tehran that keeps calling the landline and kicking me offline”?
 

So if they manage to somehow pass legislation forbidding the use of military force against Iran here preemptively and POOTUS defies that Congressional order we absolutely know what impeachment round one in Jan 2027 is going to be.

ETA this appears to be a repeat from June 2025. The resolution didn’t clear the senate.

7 out of 10 citizens oppose unilateral action against Iran. Even a majority of Republicans oppose a unilateral strike.
 
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That was a good read.


Here is the whole post for people that don’t have X.



Some thoughts:

1. Iran’s dilemma: Iran does not want to absorb the first strike like it always does. At the same time, it does not want to be seen as the “aggressor.” Tehran wants the option to hit and still claim it was responding.

2. USS Gerald R. Ford is not yet in the CENTCOM theater. Many of its air wing assets remain in the U.S., with others still en route to the Middle East.

3. If Iran intends to launch a preemptive or surprise strike, logic suggests it would prefer to act before Ford links up with the Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group and fully expands U.S. combat power in theater.

4.If Iran strikes first, even under a preemptive justification, it hands the U.S. and Israel the cleanest political and military case for a large scale coordinated response. That could turn into a self inflicted strategic disaster for Tehran.

5. The 2 week timeline
Iran says it needs roughly 2 weeks to formulate a response to the latest U.S. proposals. That buys time. It may also be operational cover.

6. Israel does not trust Iran’s timeline or messaging. If Israeli intelligence sees credible signs of imminent missile or drone launch preparations, Israel will strike first independently.

7.The bottom line, the next few days to 2 weeks could shift rapidly and unexpectedly and we may see many surprises
I quit reading after reading #2 in the list. The Navy isn't the USAF. While carrier aircraft may leave a couple of days after the ship when deploying from their home port the Ford was at sea. According to recent reports the Ford is near Gibraltar it's not going to be that for from the US without it's carrier air wing.
 
So stupid. The last time US Congress voted to declare War was December 8, 1941.

Not Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War or even after 9/11.
The War Power Act of 1973 is what Khana and Massie are moving under. Congress granted authority via resolution for 9/11 and for the Gulf War. It doesn’t address a declaration of war only which Congress can declare but rather prevents unilateral military action by the executive without a joint congressional resolution.

A resolution was attempted last June but didn’t clear the senate. This time there is resounding disapproval for unilateral action and if the resolution passes the senate and Trump unilaterally attacks then he is absolutely cross ways with Congress
 
The War Power Act of 1973 is what Khana and Massie are moving under. Congress granted authority via resolution for 9/11 and for the Gulf War. It doesn’t address a declaration of war only which Congress can declare but rather prevents unilateral military action by the executive without a joint congressional resolution.

A resolution was attempted last June but didn’t clear the senate. This time there is resounding disapproval for unilateral action and if the resolution passes the senate and Trump unilaterally attacks then he is absolutely cross ways with Congress
Like I said, It's stupid!

Why is it when it comes to Trump people like Massie & the left lose their mind.
 
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So stupid. The last time US Congress voted to declare War was December 8, 1941.

Not Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War or even after 9/11.
This is the way it should be done. Just because they did it wrong in the past doesn't justify continuing to do it wrong in the future.
 
I think we’re about to strike fellas……. I’m not sure how I feel about it…. On one hand I think maybe the US should mind its own business…. On the other … I’ve seen them burning us in effigy, chanting death to the great Satan, carrying out a proxy war with roadside IEDs, sponsoring terrorism, murdering their own civilians and etc. and I think they should be smashed into a greasy spot.
 

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