Interior Defense Weakness

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2 observations....

1. I felt like we had a WAY too many injuries. And it seems to happen often. That bothers me....

2. Some people on this thread would be a lot of fun at parties.....
 
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Shirleyudontmeanthat said:
W Hobbs and moi out you HAVE to get the young guys ready. That is playing time , they aren’t getting any better if you don’t play them. Game was in hand , had to get the youngsters time. Smart coaching , even if you give up some yards and points
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I don’t think any of those guys can RS at this point.

Heck, West and Bailey would be my 2nd string DTs at this point. With Eason and Nate at the 1s.
3s you’d have Utley and Campbell.

Or you have Utley and Campbell at the 2s
And always play West and Bailey on 3rd down and long at DT.

Wallace came in the same class as Moi and Nate Robinson and he just does not look the part. He was getting manhandled against Syracuse. Our staff gets too curious sometimes. Wallace was a WR 6 years ago… he just doesn’t have the leverage to play DT even though he’s 300 lbs

Wallace. DE from Nigeria via England.
They give these guys whole damn scholarships while guys like Bishop or Brooks have to earn theirs…
 
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They had plenty of injuries in the game and they just lost quite a bit of experience from last years team that's gone. Hobbs being out didn't help anything either. Some of ya'll on here already got your THONGS in a wad already.......smh Hell support not bitch and complain against them....
 
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madbamahater said:
Syracuse did a great job of exploiting the interior defensive line. I'm afraid this is going to rear its ugly head against really good competition. I'm trying to figure out why Tennessee is so thin there and appear to be way undersized. If you cannot win the interior line of scrimmage you have absolutely no chance in the SEC.
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Yep. Your soul gets crushed when you can’t stop the run. I used to love it when Fulmer would run it up the gut for 4 yards a carry the whole 4th quarter. You could see the misery on their faces.
 
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madbamahater said:
Syracuse did a great job of exploiting the interior defensive line. I'm afraid this is going to rear its ugly head against really good competition. I'm trying to figure out why Tennessee is so thin there and appear to be way undersized. If you cannot win the interior line of scrimmage you have absolutely no chance in the SEC.
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It's something to watch, for sure, but also think we had some injuries and also played a ton of players to build depth. Not terribly worried about it. Don't think we're winning the SEC this year, but also believe we'll be in the "big middle" cluster of teams in the hunt to have really good seasons if we stay healthy and continue to improve.
 
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BearBryant said:
Take away the QB numbers which include sacks and it was 130 on 37 carries 3.5 yd per attempt. Not terrible but needs improvement (which I believe will happen).
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You can’t “take away” the QB numbers, just like you can’t take away the score. What in the hell is going on in this thread? Seems like a bunch of hand wringing and retreat to their safe space is the call ! Good lord -
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Im glad Im not the only one who noticed. Look I know we were down 3 of our top 4 d-lineman. But we're just talking about size, not talent. If you arent at least 6' 2" and 300+, you have no business being an interior D-Lineman in the SEC. Why are we recruiting these undersized guys? Even our edge rushers look small compared to DE's in the past. Reggie White played DE at 280lbs. Derek Barnett was probably of similar size. Malik Jackson played at 275 lbs. Now these edge rushers look like basketball players.
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Malik Jackson played quite a bit at DT during his tenure
 
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bpalmer28 said:
I couldn’t help but notice how big Texas and Clemson’s DTs were compared to our guys. I’m not considering it a problem yet but if I had to pick one thing I’m most concerned about it’d be size at DT
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Didn’t do either one of those teams any good first week-both lost!
I don’t think our size is the issue with our DL….it really is the health.
With Hobbs and Moi out we have a much smaller rotation…Eason playing 62 plays is a concern….I think we will see some of our younger players sooner than planned…I think we will love Utley and Campbell…,,I just what to see them when they have the bodies built to handle the sec schedule!!
 
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njvols said:
It's something to watch, for sure, but also think we had some injuries and also played a ton of players to build depth. Not terribly worried about it. Don't think we're winning the SEC this year, but also believe we'll be in the "big middle" cluster of teams in the hunt to have really good seasons if we stay healthy and continue to improve.
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I agree mostly with what you said.

However, we absolutely have everything we need to play and win the SEC. This season.

If this were last years offense (Nico and Halzle) then we maybe not win last Saturday.

Our defense doesn’t need to be top 5 again. They just need to be able to get crucial stops. They can do that.
 
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madbamahater said:
Syracuse did a great job of exploiting the interior defensive line. I'm afraid this is going to rear its ugly head against really good competition. I'm trying to figure out why Tennessee is so thin there and appear to be way undersized. If you cannot win the interior line of scrimmage you have absolutely no chance in the SEC.
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They had the most success running to the outside honestly. The turnovers and pressure helped the D look better than they actually played. Gave up some 3rd and longs, Cuse had success running on the outside and some, but less, success inside. Zone coverage was bad, Angeli made the plays when he had time and plenty of guys were open. Lots to clean up in 2 weeks.
 
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LittleVol said:
I agree mostly with what you said.

However, we absolutely have everything we need to play and win the SEC. This season.

If this were last years offense (Nico and Halzle) then we maybe not win last Saturday.

Our defense doesn’t need to be top 5 again. They just need to be able to get crucial stops. They can do that.
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Yeah I think it's just a week by week deal. If you look at last year, we just kept plugging away. Some teams will elevate and some will fall back. After week 1, I don't know if there's that UGA or Bama or OSU that's just going to throttle everyone. LSU did look the part, but they're not on our schedule. We have the talent and just need to keep improving and stay modestly healthy, where our depth isn't quite where it needs to be yet.
 
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volfanstuckinga said:
2 observations....

1. I felt like we had a WAY too many injuries. And it seems to happen often. That bothers me....

2. Some people on this thread would be a lot of fun at parties.....
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It’s an annual event. Pick the most suspect position group, sharpen the pitchforks, oil the torches and prepare to fahr a coach for incompetence developing or recruiting the necessary talent at their position group. Apparently we’ll be sacrificing Uncle Rodney. The live burning at the stake is scheduled for 9/13. Be there!
 
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madbamahater said:
Syracuse did a great job of exploiting the interior defensive line. I'm afraid this is going to rear its ugly head against really good competition. I'm trying to figure out why Tennessee is so thin there and appear to be way undersized. If you cannot win the interior line of scrimmage you have absolutely no chance in the SEC.
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Because of injuries and a lot of young guys getting playing time for the first time.
 
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jaxvol said:
Beat me to it….103 yds rushing
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The stats don’t lie! My only concern is how they were able to gain a couple yards in short and goal line situations. A better, more physical O-Line like UGA or any other SEC school we play would have made that more.

We do have to consider injuries and how that affected the rotation. D was on the field a ton in the 3rd and part of 4th quarters. Plus first game so conditioning was a factor too.

Alls well that ends well.
 
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madbamahater said:
Syracuse did a great job of exploiting the interior defensive line. I'm afraid this is going to rear its ugly head against really good competition. I'm trying to figure out why Tennessee is so thin there and appear to be way undersized. If you cannot win the interior line of scrimmage you have absolutely no chance in the SEC.
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Don't know if I would say "exploited our interior line". We put up some pretty good defensive stats - 5 sacks. 7 TFL's. only allowed 103 yards rushing on 44 attempts, 2.3 YPC. Plus we forced two turnovers, one resulting in a scoop and score and another giving us a short field that lead to a TD. We did give up 274 yards passing, for a total of 377 total yards. You have to give the Orangemen some credit they're a pretty good offensive team. They averaged 467 yards a game last year, 367 passing. I was at the game and Syracuse looked like a much better team than either NC State or Virginia, our last two openers. As many have said we played a lot of guys on D, some due to injury and some just to get them on video. Didn't give up many splash plays, longest maybe 25 yards. Biggest down side I saw was we gave up WAY TOO MANY 3rd and 4th and longs. Maybe I got orange colored glasses but ALL the 50/50 plays went to the Orangemen which helped them keep more than a few drives alive. JMTC
 
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Syracuse O-line played well together. Don't know anything about them but I'd guess they were upper classmen and will probably make some noise in the ACC this year. Not worried about our defense yet
 
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wmcovol said:
We’re far from the only one with this issue. Alabama has the same issue. Texas may have it also. They’re players also, right?
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You're kidding, right? Texas' D-Line is absolutely stacked! Also go back and watch the Clemson/LSU game again. Their D-lines are on a completely different level to ours. I dont expect Henderson and Haynesworth every year, but we should be getting enough size for that position group to not have to be dealing with this issue everytime we graduate players or they go pro.
 
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