Interesting take about UT WR Development

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MDsweetT said:
One of the biggest differences between college and NFL is the hash marks. In the NFL, the hash marks are 18 feet away from each other. In college, it’s 40 feet. So that extra space gives offenses the advantage to spread the formations and create mismatches in the run and pass game.

It’s a great system in college to run an air raid, veer and shoot or spread type of offense but that doesn’t really exist at the NFL level because of the hash marks. With less space to operate, receivers have to be more polished and precise in their route running.

As it relates to Heupel, very few receivers from the veer and shoot have panned out in the NFL, not just Tennessee guys. But until Heupel produces an Elite WR like a Ja’Marr Chase or Jaxon Smith-Njigba, there will always be questions as to how our scheme translates to the next level.

I like Brazzell and he’ll be a day 2 pick most likely. And we’ve done a good job recruiting WRs the last 2-3 years. But we need a first round pick WR that changes the landscape and changes the narrative about the “gimmick offense” that “doesn’t translate” to the pros.
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Narrower hash marks just means there’s more space outside the hashes. It will eventually get adopted by the NFL and it will work, IMO, just like the traditional Air Raid has.

As for Heupel getting questioned about his ability to produce NFL WRs, I agree the questions will persist until he proves otherwise. I just don’t think that’s fair. Jim Harbaugh never produced anything close to an elite NFL WR and the best Kirby has done is Carl Pickens but nobody was/is questioning their offense as it pertains to WRs.

This is just what happens with innovative things. Haters poke holes until eventually they’re forced to accept that the innovative thing actually works better than the traditional thing.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
Narrower hash marks just means there’s more space outside the hashes. It will eventually get adopted by the NFL and it will work, IMO, just like the traditional Air Raid has.

As for Heupel getting questioned about his ability to produce NFL WRs, I agree the questions will persist until he proves otherwise. I just don’t think that’s fair. Jim Harbaugh never produced anything close to an elite NFL WR and the best Kirby has done is Carl Pickens but nobody was/is questioning their offense as it pertains to WRs.

This is just what happens with innovative things. Haters poke holes until eventually they’re forced to accept that the innovative thing actually works better than the traditional thing.
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Idk if the NFL does that, but if defenses continue to dominate and scoring goes down, yes I could see the hash marks be similar to the college game.

George Pickens is definitely Kirby’s best WR with Ladd McConkey behind him, but also keep in mind Kirby is a defensive focused HC and he’s put out 12 first round picks on defense in 9 years.
 
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TheDeeble said:
What decent rbs have we put in the NFL in the past 25 years? I can think of two. Travis Henry and Kamara. I’d say Kamara is better than decent but they’re the only ones that qualify imo.
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If someone scores a touchdown, stays on a roster; and is part of a weekly game plan getting PT I think that should count. We’ve had multiple on that front.
 
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WillisWG said:
Didn't use AI. So keep that day job and find a better AI detector.

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Oh brother I know for a FACT you used AI. Which is fine. I use it to proofread my points, but you used it for an entire factual basis. I can tell by the writing style and grammatical patterns. Don’t even need an AI detector for that one brother.

So you either used AI or the AI models based their writing after you.. which if that’s the case you should sue lol.

That being said you just pretending Hyatt is just a Jerry Rice level talent victim is crazy. He isn’t a solid route runner. The scouts have said it, the film says it, and that is fine. Players can develop but I haven’t seen his route tree grow much since reaching the NFL.

John Ross was also fast and a fly route guy and there is a reason he isn’t in the NFL anymore despite the raw/unmatched speed.
 
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Don’t draft Tennessee offensive players because UT’s offense is too creative.

Does anyone even coach in the NFL anymore? What happened to player development within NFL organizations?
 
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#57
Naw this is old news... it used to be half field reads uncapped/capped principles but it is increasingly changing as Brazzell said himself. You can see the way they were attacking zone and man match defenses last year and partly the year before, the G pull pass prop scheme got a lot of buzz but that was just part of the change, there was equal change in the route trees. Will Brazzell be elite in the league? I don't know, but he is equipped for it.
 
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Hairy Vols said:
Oh brother I know for a FACT you used AI. Which is fine. I use it to proofread my points, but you used it for an entire factual basis. I can tell by the writing style and grammatical patterns. Don’t even need an AI detector for that one brother.

So you either used AI or the AI models based their writing after you.. which if that’s the case you should sue lol.

That being said you just pretending Hyatt is just a Jerry Rice level talent victim is crazy. He isn’t a solid route runner. The scouts have said it, the film says it, and that is fine. Players can develop but I haven’t seen his route tree grow much since reaching the NFL.

John Ross was also fast and a fly route guy and there is a reason he isn’t in the NFL anymore despite the raw/unmatched speed.
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Fact...lol, you're using alternate facts brother. Posted the article. Read it or don't but no AI was used on my end. Simply cut and paste, a bit sad you could not figure that out.

No mention of John Ross or Jerry Rice by me. Those are your opinions. Maybe your AI can help you get back on topic.


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MDsweetT said:
Arian Foster was a really good back for the Texans. And I know it was technically 26 years ago, but Jamal Lewis won OPOY and has the third most rushing yards ever in a season.
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Interesting that you mentioned running backs.A recruit at the elite level like the prospect George's will create more opportunities in the passing game, that's why I am gonna say if we get him in combination of our current 5 star Qb that we will be in the hunt in 2027 .
 
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Hairy Vols said:
If someone scores a touchdown, stays on a roster; and is part of a weekly game plan getting PT I think that should count. We’ve had multiple on that front.
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I don't know man. Running for a couple hundred yards and a td over the course of a season isn't decent imo. If that's all a rb can contribute he won't be in the NFL for long.
 
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tlowe said:
Interesting that you mentioned running backs.A recruit at the elite level like the prospect George's will create more opportunities in the passing game, that's why I am gonna say if we get him in combination of our current 5 star Qb that we will be in the hunt in 2027 .
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I hope we land DDG. Having an elite back to pair with Faizon would be great for the future.
 
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TheDeeble said:
I don't know man. Running for a couple hundred yards and a td over the course of a season isn't decent imo. If that's all a rb can contribute he won't be in the NFL for long.
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Ameer Abdullah has played 11 seasons in the league and has 2 years with more than 500 yards rushing. If you’re a good 3rd down back and can block, that’ll extend the longevity for a RB. There are really no “bell cow” backs anymore…maybe Henry but even he’s on his last few years
 
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