Interesting Stats about BGSU passing game

[zjcvols]

So I looked up Johnson's numbers from 2013 (when he played the full year) and compared it to his game against Tennessee.

2013

YPA: 9.4
QBR: 161.7
CMP%: 64.2

Tennessee Game

YPA: 8.7
QBR: 141.3
CMP%: 55.1

Tennessee actually held him below his 2013 numbers.

I'm not here saying we played great or anything, but just a little perspective to show that BGSU can chuck the football around and that Matt Johnson is good. I'd wait till the end of September to make any true judgments on the secondary.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Well he did have the best game of his career yardage wise against us. Thats a somber thought considering how many crappy teams he has faced.

 

[Dougie_D]

Honestly, I think it was more of a mismatch between their receivers and our secondary. They were able to exploit our weakness.

Looking at their roster, they have TONS of experience on that side. Maybe I'm wrong, but don't we have a lot new faces starting in our secondary?

I'd like to believe that experience was why we struggled and not just because we are less talented. We will most likely get hurt bad when we play against more experienced receiving teams.

 

[KBVol]

Kent State, Murray State, Toledo, Akron, Miami-Ohio, Ohio, UMASS, Eastern Michigan, No Illinois....these are 9 of his 12 opponents that year, none of which allowed him 424 yards passing. Just sayin'. Your point is taken, but it's still quite hard to justify Saturday's defensive performance.

 

[alexbond45]

I still think he just nailed several of those deep balls. When you pass the ball right, most top NFL corners can't defend it. The best example is when you throw it right into the hands of a WR slightly leading the CB (or burning him)

 

[v0ltan]

Did anyone else think the receiver got away with a push off/stiff arm on all those long balls to their left? I thought our guy was right there but allowed separation when ball arrived

 

[Crazy Ivan]

I still think he just nailed several of those deep balls. When you pass the ball right, most top NFL corners can't defend it. The best example is when you throw it right into the hands of a WR slightly leading the CB (or burning him)

Yes. Our CBs could have been draped on those WR's backs and it wouldn't have made any difference because Johnson was laying the ball out front on those WR's fingertips. He was making money throws all day.

 

[xpsyclonex2002]

Did anyone else think the receiver got away with a push off/stiff arm on all those long balls to their left? I thought our guy was right there but allowed separation when ball arrived

Negative Ghost Rider. Those catches were legit. We just got burned.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Kent State, Murray State, Toledo, Akron, Miami-Ohio, Ohio, UMASS, Eastern Michigan, No Illinois....these are 9 of his 12 opponents that year, none of which allowed him 424 yards passing. Just sayin'. Your point is taken, but it's still quite hard to justify Saturday's defensive performance.

When you're losing by 20 some odd points, you tend to pass the ball more.

 

[Volnatic]

Negative Ghost Rider. Those catches were legit. We just got burned.

There was at least one where Dieter and Moseley were hand fighting, and then Dieter extended his arm into Moseley, creating separation. It wasn't terribly egregious and a fine no call, but he extended enough that a particularly flag happy striped shirt could've called it. For the most part, howeer bet, we were missing our jams on the line, and that qb was throwing arcs with incredible accuracy.

 

[v0ltan]

Negative Ghost Rider. Those catches were legit. We just got burned.

Negative Ghost rider. Like that lol. Just thought corner got out muscled passes were perfect.

 

[proudparents]

I'm sure most of you watched OSU and VT last night. Did you hear Herbie talking about "one of the top corners in college football" getting burned....at least twice and one for a TD? Another time one of their corners broke off coverage when he thought Jones was going to run and got burned? It happens. UT pass coverage needs to improve for sure and I think it will provided they get some pressure up front.

 

[livefaith]

There was at least one where Dieter and Moseley were hand fighting, and then Dieter extended his arm into Moseley, creating separation. It wasn't terribly egregious and a fine no call, but he extended enough that a particularly flag happy striped shirt could've called it. For the most part, howeer bet, we were missing our jams on the line, and that qb was throwing arcs with incredible accuracy.

This is accurate. The moral of the story is, don't let the guy run past you in the first place. Then you don't have to depend on a ref to bail you out with a OPI.

 

[BGGrad09]

Kent State, Murray State, Toledo, Akron, Miami-Ohio, Ohio, UMASS, Eastern Michigan, No Illinois....these are 9 of his 12 opponents that year, none of which allowed him 424 yards passing. Just sayin'. Your point is taken, but it's still quite hard to justify Saturday's defensive performance.

BGSU didn't run an up-tempo offense that year under Dave Clawson which is why his passing yardage was so low. BG was a possession team during that time and relied on holding the ball and their defense to win games. I guarantee Johnson will break the 424 mark against multiple opponents this year.

 

[KBVol]

BGSU didn't run an up-tempo offense that year under Dave Clawson which is why his passing yardage was so low. BG was a possession team during that time and relied on holding the ball and their defense to win games. I guarantee Johnson will break the 424 mark against multiple opponents this year.

Probably so....against MAC defenses.

 

[1982Alum]

Let's face it. Our pass D just sucks. Expect OU to remind us of that again this week

 

[TBtheGBwiththeTD]

Let's face it. Our pass D just sucks. Expect OU to remind us of that again this week

Not ready to go that far. They will learn from the tape, get the DBs coach back and get healthier (TKjr and J Martin specifically). They clearly had a bad day, but I'm not ready to write them off completely.

Side Note: Cam Sutton was spectacular in this game. No body is talking about it because every other DB was pretty bad, but he allowed no completions. He jumped one of the few passes thrown his way and almost picked it, and he absolutely crushed a good RB on that screen on his side.

It's hard to imagine with him being so good that they can't figure something out on the other side of him. He will allow them to get creative.

 

[08Vol]

Yes. Our CBs could have been draped on those WR's backs and it wouldn't have made any difference because Johnson was laying the ball out front on those WR's fingertips. He was making money throws all day.

A good corner will be running even with the WR, not behind him. Watch Sutton play, he is almost always running beside the receiver and when he's not the QB thinks he is trying to bait him into a bad throw.

 

[HoptownVol]

Well Dieter was outstanding. I want him to graduate with eligibility left and t/f to UT.

 

[MCScots4]

Kent State, Murray State, Toledo, Akron, Miami-Ohio, Ohio, UMASS, Eastern Michigan, No Illinois....these are 9 of his 12 opponents that year, none of which allowed him 424 yards passing. Just sayin'. Your point is taken, but it's still quite hard to justify Saturday's defensive performance.

I'm sure they didn't pass as much if they were beating most of those teams and not trying to keep up with a team that dropped 59 points on you. I'm not saying we shouldn't have been better but it was the first game with some new faces so I'm not that worried. BG will probably do that to a lot more teams this year. As Jones said it starts up front with the D-Line. I don't think those guys get as hyped up against the lesser opponents. Didn't Barnett have the majority of his sacks against SEC teams last year?

 

[KBVol]

I'm sure they didn't pass as much if they were beating most of those teams and not trying to keep up with a team that dropped 59 points on you. I'm not saying we shouldn't have been better but it was the first game with some new faces so I'm not that worried. BG will probably do that to a lot more teams this year. As Jones said it starts up front with the D-Line. I don't think those guys get as hyped up against the lesser opponents. Didn't Barnett have the majority of his sacks against SEC teams last year?

Barnett had all of his 10 sacks vs SEC opponents last year.

 

[Chilmonty]

I think this was a much better offense than many expected.

With that said it is a little worrisome that, once again, a QB had a career day against our D. :no:

Hope is DOES NOT carry over to next Saturday!




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[TBtheGBwiththeTD]

Kent State, Murray State, Toledo, Akron, Miami-Ohio, Ohio, UMASS, Eastern Michigan, No Illinois....these are 9 of his 12 opponents that year, none of which allowed him 424 yards passing. Just sayin'. Your point is taken, but it's still quite hard to justify Saturday's defensive performance.

They did not run this high tempo air it out system in 2013.

I guarantee he will be one of the nations top passers this season if he stays healthy.

 

[zjcvols]

Well he did have the best game of his career yardage wise against us. Thats a somber thought considering how many crappy teams he has faced.

Kent State, Murray State, Toledo, Akron, Miami-Ohio, Ohio, UMASS, Eastern Michigan, No Illinois....these are 9 of his 12 opponents that year, none of which allowed him 424 yards passing. Just sayin'. Your point is taken, but it's still quite hard to justify Saturday's defensive performance.

The 424 is misleading. Yards gained is fool's gold. For example.

If you run purely at a team that runs 80 plays and gain 500 yards compared to a team that runs 60 plays and gains 400 yards, you would assume the team with 500 yards had the better offensive day. Expect the team that ran 60 plays had the better yards per play average, a better indicator of performance. We allowed 424 yards passing, but it took him 49 passes to it. We held below his yards per pass average.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

A good corner will be running even with the WR, not behind him. Watch Sutton play, he is almost always running beside the receiver and when he's not the QB thinks he is trying to bait him into a bad throw.

Which is why Sutton is All-SEC and Moseley and Foreman aren't; at least at this point. And yes, I've watched Sutton play. Don't be so literal. I was simply trying to point out that Johnson was making perfect throws all afternoon.