Interesting SEC doomsday article on USA Today.

[SubVet676]

Get rid of the CFP Committee. Human involvement = human interference. Tweak the BCS formula to account for SOS, SOOS, limit margin of victory credit to 28 points, and make a close loss to a quality opponent less painful than a flat-out upset. Weight the numbers to account for home and road wins / losses. Polls mean nothing, just the performance math.

9 conference games. For any P5 conference with less than 10 teams, your margin of error is smaller. Life isn't fair. Best if you learn that now.

14 weeks to play 12 games. Two byes built in. The initial rankings come out after Week 7, and are updated weekly after that. Final ranking after the conference championship games.

Yes, losing the conference championship game could knock you out of the playoff. Welcome to the real world. Every. Game. Counts. Or get rid of the CC games. I don't care either way.

16 teams. Conference championships should mean something, so the P4 conference champs are in. So is the top-ranked P5 conference champ. Then the next highest-ranked 11 teams. No regard to conference affiliation. If the SEC gets 5 teams in and the B10 gets 2, so be it. But the seeding is a "straight 16" model, with teams seeded by their BCS ranking, and not by winning their conference. No re-seeding after games. First round is at the higher-ranked teams home stadium, then the bowl sites come in to play for the round of 8 and so on. That's 6 "major bowl" sites for the final 6 games. Rotate them like they do now.

Flaws? I'm sure you could find one, or more. But the best way to keep people (and the media) from screwing something up is to get their hands out of it.

Excuse me, I've gotta go get that mess in Ukraine cleaned up. Be back in a few days.

 

[Sudden Impact]

It's not going to matter when the playoffs expand to 16

Any SEC team at 10-2 will get in and most at 9-3 will get in as well

Do not kid yourself if they do not use SOS this year then they will not in the future. The fix will be that we expanded it to 16 teams.

 

[BornAndRaisedVOL!]

You lost me at "USA Today"

 

[Sudden Impact]

Get rid of the CFP Committee. Human involvement = human interference. Tweak the BCS formula to account for SOS, SOOS, limit margin of victory credit to 28 points, and make a close loss to a quality opponent less painful than a flat-out upset. Weight the numbers to account for home and road wins / losses. Polls mean nothing, just the performance math.

9 conference games. For any P5 conference with less than 10 teams, your margin of error is smaller. Life isn't fair. Best if you learn that now.

14 weeks to play 12 games. Two byes built in. The initial rankings come out after Week 7, and are updated weekly after that. Final ranking after the conference championship games.

Yes, losing the conference championship game could knock you out of the playoff. Welcome to the real world. Every. Game. Counts.

16 teams. Conference championships should mean something, so the P4 conference champs are in. So is the top-ranked P5 conference champ. Then the next highest-ranked 11 teams. No regard to conference affiliation. If the SEC gets 5 teams in and the B10 gets 2, so be it. But the seeding is a "straight 16" model, with teams seeded by their BCS ranking, and not by winning their conference. No re-seeding after games. First round is at the higher-ranked teams home stadium, then the bowl sites come in to play for the round of 8 and so on. That's 6 "major bowl" sites for the final 6 games. Rotate them like they do now.

Flaws? I'm sure you could find one, or more. But the best way to keep people (and the media) from ******* something up is to get their hands out of it.

Excuse me, I've gotta go get that mess in Ukraine cleaned up. Be back in a few days.

Independent teams need to sit at home and watch. ND needs to play in a conference. Their grind of a schedule is pathetically weak.

 

[SubVet676]

Independent teams need to sit at home and watch. ND needs to play in a conference. Their grind of a schedule is pathetically weak.

Agreed. Get in a conference as a full member, or buy a ticket like the rest of the fans.

EDIT: Most "Notre Dame thing" ever would be for them to join like the AAC to "bring the history, tradition, and Notre Dame brand" to the conference.

Aren't they already a "partial" member of the B10? Who in the world bent over for that deal?

 

[Sudden Impact]

ND

Competition	Record	Details
College Football Playoff (CFP)	3-3	Includes five total appearances, with a 1-0 record in quarterfinals.
BCS National Championship	0-1	Lost to Alabama in the 2013 championship game.
BCS/New Year's Six (all other bowl games)	0-7	Notre Dame has lost 10 consecutive major bowl games (BCS/New Year's Six), with the last win being the 1993 Cotton Bowl.

0- 8 prior to the 4 team and then 12 team CFP. Last year they lost to home to an unknown.
N Illinois an FBS 1 School.

 

[SubVet676]

ND

Competition	Record	Details
College Football Playoff (CFP)	3-3	Includes five total appearances, with a 1-0 record in quarterfinals.
BCS National Championship	0-1	Lost to Alabama in the 2013 championship game.
BCS/New Year's Six (all other bowl games)	0-7	Notre Dame has lost 10 consecutive major bowl games (BCS/New Year's Six), with the last win being the 1993 Cotton Bowl.

0- 8 prior to the 4 team and then 12 team CFP. Last year they lost to home to an unknown.
N Illinois an FBS 1 School.

I stand corrected. Maybe they do belong in the AAC.

 

[stolitonic]

Exactly. I've been expecting the oh-so-predictable media cries for playoff expansion all season, and it should be ramping up now with the deadline on deciding next year's format upon us.

The media won't be happy until we have the inevitable 24-team clown show, which will only result in more blowouts leading to the expected 2-3 teams with a legit shot in the final four.

Everyone needs to just agree on 16 and be done with it. I personally think the 12 number is about right, but whatever

No byes. First round of 12 games at campus stadiums the week before Christmas

Second round incorporating some of the minor bowls NYE and NYD

 

[chuck0303]

Not that it will come to it, but absolutely no way, if 9-3 Vols and 9-3 Iowa are competing for a final spot do they put Iowa in there over us. 0 chance of that happening. But theres also about 0 chance it comes to that scenario too. But just saying.

Don't know the stats but I can't ever recall us losing to Iowa--ever. They've always had a pretty good D because they have 500 lbers in the trenches but couldn't score 17 points if their lives depended on it.

 

[chuck0303]

This type of article is just the media laying the groundwork for "We need playoff expansion" which is good for their business.

Strength of schedule problems can NEVER be solved or made "fair" so the next step in the argument is: what could help?

The "solution" will be: we should expand the playoffs to let more of these teams that don't get in because of strength of schedule differences have a "fair" chance.

It isn't, of course, about "fair" at all. It's about the sports media bottom line being helped by expanded playoffs.

Let's save time and just expand to 136 teams for the playoffs. Records don't matter. Blue Font.

 

[Carp]

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

CFP strength of schedule broken promises could lead to unthinkable SEC doomsday scenario

CFP strength of schedule broken promises could lead to unthinkable SEC doomsday scenario

CFP hasn't kept strength of schedule promise. Your move, SEC (and it could be a doozy).

www.usatoday.com

The committee has already basically said they aren't bumping someone out of the CFP who played in conference championship game and was in the CFP before the game.

Certainly the could change if Bama lost Ty Simpson to a season ending injury in the SECCG.

 

[Firebirdparts]

^^^ You're still going to hear a lot of jibber jabber about how 'deserving' team 137 is. No number of teams is going to stop the blubbering.

 

[mudhen]

I took a look at Notre Dame's schedule, and they have played exactly 2 quality opponents, and they lost to both of them. Their schedule is laughable. Yet they are no. 9. This sh## is a joke. But hey, it's the mighty Irish, Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, Knute Rockne and all of that nonsense.

 

[tennesseeduke]

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big 12 without TT would suck

 

[sami]

Just cancel the SEC Championship Game because of weather or some national security threat. Declare Co Champions and move on from their.
It is a joke get rid of the committee or replace them with those that have no bias or prejuide towards any school or conference. No ties from the aspect.
Let the Supreme Court decide

Oh yeah, there's no bias there. Good luck finding anyone with no bias or prejudice that has a shred of interest in CFB.

We're going to learn something about the alleged "strength of schedule" emphasis this year, because if someone like Notre Dame makes the playoff over any 3-loss SEC team who played 3-5 ranked schools, then Sankey f***ked up royally by jamming through the nine game schedule against the wishes of his coaches.

 

[sami]

You lost me at "USA Today"

My first thought exactly.

 

[HalfullVol]

SEC has hurt itself w upcoming 9 game SEC schedule

This will allow weaker conferences an opportunity to argue their validity to be included in playoffs.

SEC should’ve stuck w 7-8 game SEC schedule and played perceived power teams from other conferences to create tangible comparatives.

Might as well pencil in ND every year for the playoffs, lol

 

[Rickyvol77]

ND

Competition	Record	Details
College Football Playoff (CFP)	3-3	Includes five total appearances, with a 1-0 record in quarterfinals.
BCS National Championship	0-1	Lost to Alabama in the 2013 championship game.
BCS/New Year's Six (all other bowl games)	0-7	Notre Dame has lost 10 consecutive major bowl games (BCS/New Year's Six), with the last win being the 1993 Cotton Bowl.

0- 8 prior to the 4 team and then 12 team CFP. Last year they lost to home to an unknown.
N Illinois an FBS 1 School.

Don't forget Notre Dame also won all their NCs before the 1970s by not going to bowl games for 50 years for "academic" purposes

 

[bleedrng]

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Looks like this was about a month ago. Has it been updated since then?

 

[docterjaws]

This type of article is just the media laying the groundwork for "We need playoff expansion" which is good for their business.

Strength of schedule problems can NEVER be solved or made "fair" so the next step in the argument is: what could help?

The "solution" will be: we should expand the playoffs to let more of these teams that don't get in because of strength of schedule differences have a "fair" chance.

It isn't, of course, about "fair" at all. It's about the sports media bottom line being helped by expanded playoffs.

the solution is top 12 teams in ap voting goes to playoff. 1 verses 12 and 2 verses 11 etc and get rid of these people in playoff committee

 

[docterjaws]

It was predictable. SOS is always going to be a manipulated number. Before the season, I predicted that the SEC teams in the playoffs will be on the road because of the 9 team schedule. In the end, a team having 0 or 1 loss will always top a 2 or 3 loss team in the playoffs. It doesn't matter if one team plays nobody and the other team plays 10 ranked teams.

The SEC bought a pig in a poke.

the solution is top 12 teams in ap voting goes to playoff. 1 verses 12 and 2 verses 11 etc and get rid of these people in playoff committee

 

[docterjaws]

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

CFP strength of schedule broken promises could lead to unthinkable SEC doomsday scenario

CFP strength of schedule broken promises could lead to unthinkable SEC doomsday scenario

CFP hasn't kept strength of schedule promise. Your move, SEC (and it could be a doozy).

www.usatoday.com

the solution is top 12 teams in ap voting goes to playoff. 1 verses 12 and 2 verses 11 etc and get rid of these people in playoff committee

 

[utvols74]

That wasn't even my point. I agree vols aren't going 9-3.

But my point is the rank was to boost B10.

All. Day. Long. E$PN has hated BCS from its inception - especially when the SEC won it all for 8-9 straight years and some years had 2 SEC teams competing for the Natty. They love them some B10 for sure especially now that USC, Oregon, UCLA, etc. are in it.

 

[ENGRVOL]

Please let this happen.

A “doomsday scenario” where Alabama misses the playoffs doesn’t sound too bad to me.

 

[Sarms58]

I won't even spell b@ma, but the fact is ND doesn't deserve its spot.

Further the fact they put 7-3 Iowa ahead of 7-3 vols last week is utterly ridiculous.

When last week's poll was decided, this was the comparison:

Excuse me how is Iowa ahead of the vols???

IOWA: Lost to #2, #8 (over ranked OR) and UNRANKED Iowa St. (2 home losses)
Strength of schedule: 40

VOLS: Lost to #4, #5 and #12! (2 home losses)
Strength of schedule: 22

Last head-to-head fwiw was VOLS 38 IOWA 0

And we all know VOLS would lay a 50-burger on them again.

Vols vs Iowa in a Florida bowl game would be a fun holiday trip.