Interesting running game stat from Super bowl

[Coastypop]

One of the announcers (don't know which) said that NYG made it to the super bowl but was last in the league in the running game????

Is the running games importance over played and/or can the VOLS make it to a championship with a less that stellar running game.. HMMMMMMMM

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You can get away with that in the NFL, but not in the SEC.

 

[Coastypop]

You can get away with that in the NFL, but not in the SEC.

I have always believed you not only need a good running game but a great one (as Alabama, LSU, USCjr etc.) but that stat made me wonder if the game is changing that much.

Also what makes it easier to do in the NFL than in the SEC? this is an honest question and not a challenge of your point

 

[sonofUT62]

One of the announcers (don't know which) said that NYG made it to the super bowl but was last in the league in the running game????

Is the running games importance over played and/or can the VOLS make it to a championship with a less that stellar running game.. HMMMMMMMM

Look at the style of the two best collegiate teams this year and I think you will answer your own question.

 

[WG53]

Look at the style of the two best collegiate teams this year and I think you will answer your own question.

That does not answer anything and does not make any valid point. Those teams have great defenses. That is why it works for them. Not to mention LSU lost because of lousy QB play. You guys keep acting like the running game is why they won. It isn't. Defense is.

 

[Coastypop]

Look at the style of the two best collegiate teams this year and I think you will answer your own question.

I am not denying that fact at all, and neither have I ever been one to think you can win a championship without a great running game. I must admit I was taken back by the fact that the NYG had made it to the top without one.

If they can do it, maybe we can too. I know for sure that for many years Spurrier's Fla teams seemed to use the pass to set up the run. I would much rather see the Vols use the run to set up the pass, but I doubt they have the horses to do that...JMO

 

[getyopopcornready]

You just need to be good at what you do. Whether its pass, run, or great special teams. What you are good at needs to be a difference maker in each game.

 

[GBO128]

A lot of nfl screens are really running plays that spread the defense out bc linebackers are so fast in the nfl. Additionally, I am a saints fan and in the third quarter this year Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas kept the game in hand on 2nd and 3rd down by getting firsts. I think we can have a pass heavy offense but the control of a game has to be established with a hard running attack

 

[99gator]

parity has hit the nfl and has changed things dramatically to the point where it's an apples and oranges comparison (college to pro).

between the rules that the league plays by and the how the talent is spread out, it's a different game.

this year's patriots wouldn't sniff the playoffs in the nfl i grew up with. can't run the ball. can't play defense. to top it off, their only weapons are two tight ends. they don't have a wr that can stretch the field or scare anyone.

a qb and two te's and they are a half away from winning a championship. i don't think you want to build a team that way.

 

[refnstripes]

Running game is the offense's defense. If you have a good running game you control the clock, rest your defense and put points on the board, physically beat the opponent. The rules of the NFL make it easier to throw the ball. The size and speed of the defenses make it more difficult to run the ball. Everyone is good in the NFL.

At the collegiate level it is difficult to build superior talent on both sides of the ball, there are exceptions. That is why most of the NC contenders control the game with defense.

The wishbone offense of the past lost effectiveness when Miami demonstrated that putting speed on the defense could stile the running attack. Nebraska was not long strong in the run game but Miami & FL State beat them with speed on from the defense. The high powered offenses of Ok State, Baylor, Oregon put up a lot of points but their defenses give up many points both by pass and run so during the course of a game they would melt against Bama or LSU defense.

Running game puts you in position to win, defense wins the games. After all you keep the other team out of the end zone you have a better chance.

 

[BACKDOC]

Spurrier won a lot of games at FLA without running the ball. I know what you're gonna say; "they always had a lot of yards on the ground." But those yards came after he was up by 30 points, and was just running out the clock.

 

[WG53]

parity has hit the nfl and has changed things dramatically to the point where it's an apples and oranges comparison (college to pro).

between the rules that the league plays by and the how the talent is spread out, it's a different game.

this year's patriots wouldn't sniff the playoffs in the nfl i grew up with. can't run the ball. can't play defense. to top it off, their only weapons are two tight enyds. they don't have a wr that can stretch the field or scare anyone.

a qb and two te's and they are a half away from winning a championship. i don't think you want to build a team that way.

Running the ball is incredibly unimportant in the NFL. The best running teams are usually not playoff teams and are more likely to be among the worst teams than they are to be one of the best.

Passing efficiently and good pass D is the formula for championships in today's NFL.

 

[sonofUT62]

That does not answer anything and does not make any valid point. Those teams have great defenses. That is why it works for them. Not to mention LSU lost because of lousy QB play. You guys keep acting like the running game is why they won. It isn't. Defense is.

So dominate running games dont help SEC defenses out by grinding out clocks and keeping their defenses off the field? Hard to have one without the other. LSU and Bamas defensive stats are partly related to having great running games.

 

[sonofUT62]

That does not answer anything and does not make any valid point. Those teams have great defenses. That is why it works for them. Not to mention LSU lost because of lousy QB play. You guys keep acting like the running game is why they won. It isn't. Defense is.

And even if you dont agree with me that the running game was the reason for the top two teams success; believe me when I tell you that the LACK of one cost UT at least 3 games this season. I'm pretty sure that the original question by the OP was could UT get to the top with no running game? I'm gonna stick with my original answer of no.....

 

[WG53]

So dominate running games dont help SEC defenses out by grinding out clocks and keeping their defenses off the field? Hard to have one without the other. LSU and Bamas defensive stats are partly related to having great running games.

Lmao...running the ball has nothing to do with the quality of a defense.

 

[sonofUT62]

Lmao...running the ball has nothing to do with the quality of a defense.

What tells you that they 're a quality defense? The statistics? I promise you that a great running game improves defensive statistics. The other offense cant put up statistics on your D if they don't have the ball. Not sure why this is hard to understand.

 

[Coastypop]

And even if you dont agree with me that the running game was the reason for the top two teams success; believe me when I tell you that the LACK of one cost UT at least 3 games this season. I'm pretty sure that the original question by the OP was could UT get to the top with no running game? I'm gonna stick with my original answer of no.....

Every team must have a running game (of some nature) I think the big issue is can they score enough points and keep other teams O off the field. That takes a ball control type game.

The screen pass, the RB in the flat (ie) are a type of ball control. A less that stellar Running game may win IF THEY HAVE a ball control type game that we have not demonstrated in Dooley's time yet.

We have the ability to score quickly, but whne it comes time to simply run some clock...wellll you know!

 

[VolForLife83]

One of the announcers (don't know which) said that NYG made it to the super bowl but was last in the league in the running game????

Is the running games importance over played and/or can the VOLS make it to a championship with a less that stellar running game.. HMMMMMMMM

College and NFL are very different

 

[sonofUT62]

Every team must have a running game (of some nature) I think the big issue is can they score enough points and keep other teams O off the field. That takes a ball control type game.

The screen pass, the RB in the flat (ie) are a type of ball control. A less that stellar Running game may win IF THEY HAVE a ball control type game that we have not demonstrated in Dooley's time yet.

We have the ability to score quickly, but whne it comes time to simply run some clock...wellll you know!

I understand what you 're saying. I just think if you rely on throwing the ball too much in this league, bad things are gonna happen eventually.

Interceptions, sacks, incompletions, your QB breaking his hand and Matt Simms coming off the bench. A good running game is less likely to go in a slump or have an off day than a great passing game

 

[Coastypop]

College and NFL are very different

I agree, but in what way do they change the need for a running game?

 

[Coastypop]

I understand what you 're saying. I just think if you rely on throwing the ball too much in this league, bad things are gonna happen eventually.

Interceptions, sacks, incompletions, your QB breaking his hand and Matt Simms coming off the bench. A good running game is less likely to go in a slump or have an off day than a great passing game

Yea... I agree with you and always felt the same way, but the super bowl announcers made such a thing out of it that just got me to thinking.

Your reply remined me of the old addage that when you pass there are three possible things that could happen and two of em are bad :birgits_giggle:

 

[BeecherVol]

Patriots can't cover the Giants WRs without interfering. Lucky for them the stripes aren't calling it.

 

[sonofUT62]

Yea... I agree with you and always felt the same way, but the super bowl announcers made such a thing out of it that just got me to thinking.

Your reply remined me of the old addage that when you pass there are three possible things that could happen and two of em are bad :birgits_giggle:

Pretty sure it was the legendary Darrell Royal of Texas that said it. Don't think he was too big a fan of the new fangled "forward pass"!!

 

[WG53]

I understand what you 're saying. I just think if you rely on throwing the ball too much in this league, bad things are gonna happen eventually.

Interceptions, sacks, incompletions, your QB breaking his hand and Matt Simms coming off the bench. A good running game is less likely to go in a slump or have an off day than a great passing game

Relying on a running game leaves you little to no margin of error. Being an efficient passing team can overcome a turnover a lot better than a run based offense can.

 

[WG53]

What tells you that they 're a quality defense? The statistics? I promise you that a great running game improves defensive statistics. The other offense cant put up statistics on your D if they don't have the ball. Not sure why this is hard to understand.

Ball controll offenses are not limited to running teams. Sure keeping your opponent off the field keeps your D fresh. This is not exclusively a running based offenses trait.

Your point is just a tautology and holds no true value.