Interesting Interview by a QB coach on Guarantano

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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Jarrett Guarantano: 1907 yds / 12 TDs / 3 Ints - 141 Rating

Jake Fromm: 2236 yds / 24 TDs / 5 Ints - 179.4 Rating

Tua Tagoviloa: 3189 yds / 36 TDs / 2 Ints - 212.5 Rating

Drew Lock: 3125 yds / 25 TDs / 8 Ints - 145.6 Rating

Jake Stidham: 2421 yds / 13 TDs / 4 Ints - 128.5 Rating

Terry Wilson: 1768 yds / 11 TDs / 8 Ints - 134.3 Rating

Kyle Shurmur: 2844 yds / 23 TDs / 6 Ints - 146 Rating

Felipe Franks: 2284 yds / 23 TDs / 6 Ints - 144.1 Rating

Jake Bentley: 2754 yds / 24 TDs / 10 Ints - 155.1 Rating

Funny that the two games we won were against QBs who were worse then JG. (Wilson and Stidham)

JG is not the answer and these stats prove it. Notice every SEC QB we lost to had higher TDs and Ratings then the two we beat to include our own QB.

That is proof enough. So stop throwing JGs garbage stats around on the board like they are impressive because they aren’t. They are awful.

Until he is replaced as QB Tennessee’s offense will be mediocre at best.
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NAME A QB WITH NO BAD GAMES.


Until then just stop.
 
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k-town_king said:
NAME A QB WITH NO BAD GAMES.


Until then just stop.
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Lol, they all have bad games. Good job dismissing the stats I posted. Since they are relevant. You don’t have an answer for them. JG is mediocre. He is not good at QB and I fully expect him to lose his starting job.

Maybe one day you’ll get off his jock.
 
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LibertyVol said:
Some truth to this. However, go back and watch how many times somebody comes in untouched and you will see the offensive line just did not pick up the right guy and it was not JGs fault. He is not holding the ball past 2.5 seconds very often because he does not have that long. When he does hold it nobody is open. About the only thing I wished he would do is take off when his protection breaks down.
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I don't disagree . The offensive line sucks and at their best are inconsistent. The blitz thing happens more often than people are giving credit for. It happened virtually every play against Vandy. When they send one an extra guy , that falls to the QB. Not just not to get sacked , but to capitalize on the situation. In Mannings prime , no team would blitz him . Because ...he would eat them alive. Everybody blitzes JG and often. Its not just because the line is weak , it is because he will stay with him primary and never go at the blitz or his hot read. JG is at his best when he is at 2.5 ...but he very rarely is. He is typically at 3.0 or beyond. We saw the difference that releasing on time makes when KC came in the game a few times . He is understandably not the starter due to the lack of arm strength leading to INTs , so I am not butt hurt over him not starting. He has his own problems. If JG could get basic pre-snap reads down , his release time would go down and completions up. This is what is separating the kid from the upper tier QBs. Just to be clear to all ….I am cheering for JG to get to the promised land and just talking through what is holding him back
 
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BeardedVol said:
Meaning he had a clean pocket to throw from, 72% of the time that he attempted a throw...reading comprehension.
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Lol k-town will always spin it in some way to show that JG is a good QB the argument is futile. He is a “stats” guy and I posted all of the QBs we played against this year from the SEC and he was only better then 2 of them and surprisingly it was the two QBs from the teams we beat. And he completely dismissed it.

I didn’t even include every QB we played but I would assume the number would grow.

JGs stats were horrible comparative to our competition.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Lol, they all have bad games. Good job dismissing the stats I posted. Since they are relevant. You don’t have an answer for them. JG is mediocre. He is not good at QB and I fully expect him to lose his starting job.

Maybe one day you’ll get off his jock.
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Then stop talking about Vandy like it's the only game he played.

We have discussed those stats and we can again. 62% 140 rating 3 ints. First full year starting with a bad line, wrs that drop the ball at a high rate, and overly conservative coaches.

Who will start next year?
 
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k-town_king said:
Then stop talking about Vandy like it's the only game he played.

We have discussed those stats and we can again. 62% 140 rating 3 ints. First full year starting with a bad line, wrs that drop the ball at a high rate, and overly conservative coaches.

Who will start next year?
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Lol okay he played bad against Charlotte. He played bad against Florida he played bad against Vandy. He played bad against UTEP. He played bad against Alabama. Want me to keep going?
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Lol okay he played bad against Charlotte. He played bad against Florida he played bad against Vandy. He played bad against UTEP. He played bad against Alabama. Want me to keep going?
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Charlotte and Utep? He was 28/37 for over 11 ypa. Averaged around a 170 rating for the two games. 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

Bama he played a quarter. Got hurt on what would have been a scoring drive after putting us in scoring position. So not a bad game. He didn't play the game. He got hurt.

Florida he didn't play the full game. It was a bad game though. Much of it due to blocking and penalties that killed drives. I guess you forgot the holds and false starts plus the fumble by Wolfe.


So one bad game and a bad partial game in UF. Wow.
 
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k-town_king said:
How are you more of a gamer when you complete 48 to 62% and a astronomically high int rate?
Thus is where you JG bashers lose credibility. You can't say well he would throw more ints and incompletions but he would move the ball more. How is that possible?

He never was in the same situation as JG so he never did what he couldn't.

The first Bama score, down 28, was all on Jg. KC waslucky to come in with the team already in scoring position.
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No, statements like THIS are where JG fanboys, like you, lost all "credibility" and took criticism all season.

To say that the first TD against Alabama was "all on JG" shows your biasedness and that you can't look at things objectively. That 30 yard airmail of a pass was so underthrown that Palmer had to bail him out with a great coach in which he had to turn around in mid air. The catch was so awkward for Palmer that his momentum took him to the ground and resulted in concussion for him. This pass was NOT an example of a GOOD backshoulder throw. Chryst actually had a GOOD backshoulder throw later in the exact same game to Jennings. He simply turned his body, caught it, and STEPPED out of bounds. A back shoulder throw does involve turning a bit, but it doesn't involve being underthrown, like JG EXCELLS at. I posted the link to the video a few weeks ago and can do it again since you missed out on that discussion (I highly doubt it.) or simply ignored the facts of the matter.

Not only that, but Chryst finished off the drive by coming in cold off of bench and completing multiple consecutive passes. One of which was a great touch pass for TD. It was the type of pass that would make the Guarantano fanclub members shout from the mountain tops if he had completed something like it all year.

Again, to say that drive "was all on JG" shows your bias and is one of multiple examples of why it's practically impossible to have an objective discussion with people in your fanclub.
 
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k-town_king said:
How are you more of a gamer when you complete 48 to 62% and a astronomically high int rate?
Thus is where you JG bashers lose credibility. You can't say well he would throw more ints and incompletions but he would move the ball more. How is that possible?

He never was in the same situation as JG so he never did what he couldn't.

The first Bama score, down 28, was all on Jg. KC waslucky to come in with the team already in scoring position. Then he had one drive down 28. Woo. Freaking. Hoo.

Maybe the Mizzou game. We see how that turned out. And no JG as never in that game due to a missed block. You cannot use 2 passes while concussed to compare to the rest of the game.

So no. Throwing more ints and being way less accurate does not mean that KC would have moved the ball better.

Btw JG took 2 sacks a game sue to misses blocks. Maybe stop repeating talking points.
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Dude, I am not debating with you anymore. Even T-Rob says JG is HORRIFIC. His deep balls have so much air under them the receivers have to stop and wait for them every time or they have to high point the ball and take it away from the DB. He can't hit a WR in stride 10 plus yards down the field 90% of the time. He can't make checks at line of scrimmage. He dumps off 3 yard passes when it is 3rd and 10. I asked you what you wanted to wager. You are so sure you are right. Put your money or some type of wager where your BIG MOUTH is!!! JG is below average as a SEC and POWER 5 QB. He doesn't have it between the ears. There is no DUAL THREAT TO HIM AT ALL. And, his deep balls are terrible most of the time!!! He didn't have much time to throw deep. But, when he did the passes weren't on target 90% of the time!!! JG will not be the starting QB for UT or any other successful Power 5 football program by the middle of November of 2019 or sooner!!!!

No one is saying KC was great! He obviously had issues and didn't practice well leading to JG keeping the job. But, JG will never be great, even behind a great OL. JG was in there primarily because he wasn't throwing a ton of picks and taking care of the football. He is good at doing that as a QB. But, it isn't hard to complete over a 100 passes without an INT when 90% of them are NEGATIVE to 8 yard passes.
 
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VolsGrad1989 said:
Dude, I am not debating with you anymore. Even T-Rob says JG is HORRIFIC. His deep balls have so much air under them the receivers have to stop and wait for them every time. He can't hit a WR in stride. He can't make checks at line of scrimmage. He dumps off 3 yard passes when it is 3rd and 10. I asked you what you wanted to wager. You are so sure you are right. Put your money or some type of wager where your BIG MOUTH is!!! JG is below average as a SEC and POWER 5 QB. He doesn't have it between the ears. There is no DUAL THREAT TO HIM AT ALL. And, his deep balls are terrible most of the time!!! He didn't have much time to throw deep. But, when he did the passes weren't on target 90% of the time!!! JG will not be the starting QB for UT or any other successful Power 5 football program by the middle of November of 2019 or sooner!!!!
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Just like he wont start this year, just like he would get replaced? Can you give me some stock tips too? You have really truly great powers of prognostication.
 
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k-town_king said:
Just like he wont start this year, just like he would get replaced? Can you give me some stock tips too? You have really truly great powers of prognostication.
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He shouldn't have played all year. This below says it all. A QB should be judged based on what he does against great teams! For the last time, WHAT IS THE WAGER BIG MOUTH??? JG WILL NOT BE STARTING AT UT OR A SUCCESSFUL POWER 5 SCHOOL BY MID NOVEMBER OF 2019 or SOONER!!!

vs Crimson Tide 2018

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Tennessee Passing
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT QBR

Keller Chryst 9/15 164 10.9 2 0 94.2

Jarrett Guarantano 5/10 63 6.3 0 0 3.5

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Tennessee Rushing
CAR YDS AVG TD LONG

Keller Chryst 1 -3 -3.0 0 0
Jarrett Guarantano 3 -30 -10.0 0 0
 
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CA_Vol said:
I don’t think there would be a fight. He just isn’t an SEC QB. They bring in a new OC, and start a new QB, and then they can rightfully say they are preparing for the next few seasons.
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They have to find the QB. I have doubts on Shrout because of his interceptions as a High School senior. Is it Maurer as a freshman ?
 
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CA_Vol said:
I don’t think there would be a fight. He just isn’t an SEC QB. They bring in a new OC, and start a new QB, and then they can rightfully say they are preparing for the next few seasons.
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If Pruitt keeps JG as the starter I don’t think he’s taking this rebuild seriously IMHO...to vastly improve they got to have a new shot caller next year...
 
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