Interesting data from Rivals - Last 10 years and 5 star QB

#26
#26
You really have to factor in the type of system these guys played in as well. So many QBs want to go to FSU, Miami, OSU, LSU etc when in reality those places don't fit their type of play. Coaches will take on five star players in hopes that they will either live up to expectations at QB or that they will be good enough athletes to play WR etc if need be.
 
#28
#28
7 of those guys were qb's of teams that went to a bcs bowl.

actually 8
 
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#29
#29
one more thing that's misleading, several qb's in the "non 5 star rated category" were highly, highly sought after recruits.

several of those dudes were not people that schools missed on. and a few like chris leak and ej manuel were rated 5 star by other services. several of those guys had their pick of what school they wanted to attend and many a powerful program would have waited for a decision from them until signing day
 
#30
#30
andrew luck was a highly rated 4 star, but was listed as one of the qbs that i guess were passed over...
 
#32
#32
In other words, it doesn't mean sh!t to be a 5-star QB.

Exactly right...........too many people get caught up in star-watching........look at some of the people ranked lower! Are you kidding me???

I am just pointing out that over 50% either had mixed reviews or lived up to the hype.

Now let's look at a percentage of how many with less stars lived up to any hype.
 
#34
#34
Actually, it's a lot stronger than most think. LWS has a spreadsheet he posted showing where all of the 5 stars in a given year ended up. 26 out of 27 got at least a free agent shot in the NFL. The 4 stars had a much lower percentage and the three stars were much lower than the four. It was all exactly as you would expect based on the rankings.

I think that year was probably an outlier because it would seem you would be likely to get more than one guy in a class of five stars who had a career ending injury or decided he would rather sell crack and smoke weed all day.

But the correlation holds no matter what metric you use... All conference, starter etc... And no matter what time period you look at.

It is tempting to look at a list like the one above and say there is no correlation. But when you realize there are a hundred quarterbacks that are 2-4 star for every 5 star qb and if there were no correlation you would expect to only have one 5 star pan out for every 100 qbs. If you had 2 pan out then you would have a very strong correlation of twice what chance would dictate. 26 out of 27 for all positions is just ridiculous and shows why coaches all want these guys. They don't get paid millions because they can't spot talent.

People are just not very good with statistics. But they are champions of rationalizing the failures of their team. That is why they are called fans --- to denote they are not rational when it comes to certain subjects. No where is this more evident than in recruiting.

About the only thing more accurate than the rankings is the correlation between posts like this one appearing on message boards and the number of losses suffered by the teams those boards support. You can be damn sure Bama isn't worrying over having too many highly rated guys.

You can rest assured when we finally turn things around and recruiting is going well we will no longer see posts like this one.

Give me the statistical coefficient of correlation that supports your argument and ill believe you
 
#35
#35
Weren't both Mannings 5 stars? Last I checked they worked out pretty well.

I thought the star system was something created within the last decade or so. The "rivals era" if you will. Peyton definitely wouldn't have been rated back then. Highly sought after bluechip for sure.

I could be totally off base though. There may have been magazines using the star system back then too.
 
#36
#36
Your own post refutes the point you're trying to make, that stars don't matter.

First, many of the lower rated guys you list were highly recruited 4* players. There isn't much of a difference between a bunch of blue chippers just because Rivals has one guy .1 higher.

More to the point, about half of the 5*s you listed turned out to be very good or great QBs. A 50% success rate for any group of recruits is phenomenal.
 
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#37
#37
I like Tebow and I understand why you built him up more than anybody else while talking about his college career, but he sure has been a bust in the NFL.
 
#38
#38
I like Tebow and I understand why you built him up more than anybody else while talking about his college career, but he sure has been a bust in the NFL.

True, but that has zero bearing on his accomplishments as a college QB. Definitely worthy of a 5* rating.
 
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