Interesting comment on our OL on SPORTS SOURCE show.

#51
#51
Absolutely false. They're not going to pass up on an explosive run to get lined up quicker. If they aren't firing off downfield to the 2nd/3rd level, it's probably an RPO and they don't want to be 3 yds downfield before the read can be made. You can watch clips from last year and we definitely block at 2nd level. No point in running the ball if you don't.
 
#52
#52
Skill Players Love It. And the NFL is getting more wide open too. At Least the OL will be in shape; which will pay dividends.
A few years ago people would always say the air raid won't work in the SEC. Now it has become a part of everyone's system to a degree, and it is being incorporated into the NFL too.
 
#53
#53
What we need is a new rule that anyone who gets "cramps" has to sit out the next three downs. That'd end that particular stall tactic! lol Just kidding, of course.

Nicky Satan would veto that.
 
#54
#54
We are not going to be soft upfront, people try to make too much out of our system. Just sit back and watch the games. There is more to offense than just tempo. Tired of folks trying to label our offense, our offense will evolve. We are going to run and pass. We will have to be able to pick up tough yards at times if we want to win the tough games. We’re not going to avoid being a physical team like some seem to go out of their way to imply. GBO!!!!
 
#55
#55
From the run blocking I saw Thursday night this seems to be one of those 2 times. At some point Heupel is going to have to evolve and go a little more traditional in his offensive approach. Not saying we need to go power I, but tempo should be something that enhances our offense and not something we rely on entirely
Won’t ever happen this is his system so you either get used to it or quit being a fan
 
#56
#56
Makes sense if you think about it. There is no need in this offense for an OL to be more than 5 yards downfield. By the time OL is 5 downfield the RB should be well past them if he is breaking a long one. We aren't exactly pulling guards.
 
#57
#57
Absolutely false. They're not going to pass up on an explosive run to get lined up quicker. If they aren't firing off downfield to the 2nd/3rd level, it's probably an RPO and they don't want to be 3 yds downfield before the read can be made. You can watch clips from last year and we definitely block at 2nd level. No point in running the ball if you don't.


Are you saying they are not implementing techniques that will allow them to increase the tempo from last year?

Anybody that attended the first game, did you see any indication that the line schemes remained closer to the LOS than last year? Don't know what it means but here was a quote referencing our tempo run game relative to HH.

“I thought he was very efficient, in command and control. Our tempo, run game, decisions, checks, pass game, same thing.

I tried to go back and review the replay, but you just can't see enough of the field and action when limited by camera angles to verify that one way or the other. Need to the ability to see all 5 all the time. It is easy to see they do not wish to talk to Coach if they get involved in post whistle chicken fighting, but whether they are limiting their down field range requires a better comprehensive perspective. Same for DB play on the other side of the ball.
 
#58
#58
What we need is a new rule that anyone who gets "cramps" has to sit out the next three downs. That'd end that particular stall tactic! lol Just kidding, of course.
When they start that $h!t in the first quarter this week, we should send Fant on a post corner right at their coach!
 
#60
#60
Interesting comment from someone with this username; talk about irony…
I’ve thought for years that we needed a coach that brought a schematic advantage to help make up for our lack of talent until we were able to close that gap. I was excited to see an offense last year that helped us exceed expectations and have a chance to beat 2 NY6 opponents. However we have the talent offensively on the outside to where our guys can beat their man and we shouldn’t have to rely entirely on tempo to move the ball and score points. That type of play will get you 7-8 wins in this league and occasionally 9-10 if we’re lucky, but if we ever want to make it to the SECCG we’re going to have to be more multiple offensively, and regardless of how much the game has evolved into a QB driven game you still have to be able to run the ball, and our blocking scheme won’t work against Bama, Georgia, and eventually Florida. This blocking philosophy also takes away a lot in the screen game (hence why we rarely saw them last year) which helps keep the defense honest in blitzing. I’m definitely a fan of what Heupel has done in his short time here, but he’s going to have to evolve some and not rely entirely on tempo and getting the defense out of position to score or make big plays. Even Jeff Lebby and Kendall Briles offenses (which is the tree this offense came from for the most part) run more traditional spread sets and implemented a lot of power running schemes rather than exclusively running zone blocking schemes where the RB has to find a small gap to gain yards
 
#61
#61
Won’t ever happen this is his system so you either get used to it or quit being a fan
That’s not how it will work at all. He will either evolve or he will be gone. No one lasts in this league without evolving. If we’re in year 4-5 with him and we still haven’t beaten Florida, Georgia, or Bama once because we can’t run the ball against the top teams in the SEC and we’ve peaked at 8-4 he will be gone. Don’t get me wrong. I hope it works out, but there’s a reason that with as good as those Oregon offenses were and as talented as they were on defense that they never beat SEC teams and got throttled by OSU
 
#62
#62
From the run blocking I saw Thursday night this seems to be one of those 2 times. At some point Heupel is going to have to evolve and go a little more traditional in his offensive approach. Not saying we need to go power I, but tempo should be something that enhances our offense and not something we rely on entirely

I could’ve sworn during the second quarter we had a series of nothing but run plays, they slowed the game down to give the defense a rest but maybe I was watching a different game than you.
 
#63
#63
I could’ve sworn during the second quarter we had a series of nothing but run plays, they slowed the game down to give the defense a rest but maybe I was watching a different game than you.
Yeah and they were getting met by defenders within a yard or two of the LOS almost every play
 
#66
#66
Are you saying they are not implementing techniques that will allow them to increase the tempo from last year?

Anybody that attended the first game, did you see any indication that the line schemes remained closer to the LOS than last year? Don't know what it means but here was a quote referencing our tempo run game relative to HH.

“I thought he was very efficient, in command and control. Our tempo, run game, decisions, checks, pass game, same thing.

I tried to go back and review the replay, but you just can't see enough of the field and action when limited by camera angles to verify that one way or the other. Need to the ability to see all 5 all the time. It is easy to see they do not wish to talk to Coach if they get involved in post whistle chicken fighting, but whether they are limiting their down field range requires a better comprehensive perspective. Same for DB play on the other side of the ball.
I'm saying they're not telling an OL to not block a Defender 5 yds downfield that could could spring a 20 yd run or TD just so they can line up quicker. That defeats the purpose. Coach also said DBs did well. Coach isn't always going to say it like it is for a multitude of reasons. They may not fire off and immediately climb mostly due to RPOs but they're not going to not block 2nd level defenders. They did it last year and they're not going to wholesale change their philosophy the next year. Go watch highlights from Mizzou and you'll see it.
 
#67
#67
That doesn't sound like a system an NFL aspiring kid would want to learn. Just being honest.

Why would a kid not want to demonstrate the discipline and athleticism involved with running this offense? Plays like our mosh pit TD the other night and short yardage still show his strength and drive while staying close enough to the new LOS.
 
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