Interesting comment from Ainge to open his show this morning

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lifeVol said:
Agree, but you can't blame CJP on the weather he inherited either
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Right, ain't blaming...the problems may not have CJP's name on them but the answers have to.
I think the game by game 'is he our guy or not' assessments are BS and are more about just people loving the drama they create while admiring their own e-voice, haha. We got a lot of folks that get butt hurt if we don't believe they the smartest one in the room.
 
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willinhf said:
Yep. Trey Smith really wasn’t ready last year, wasn’t he? He was our best IL as a true freshman!
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1) Best IL as a true freshman isn't a good thing, even if he is a great player.
2) Trey Smith is a freak. There isn't a Trey Smith tree CJP decided he didn't want lineman from. They normally just aren't ready. And when they are, see #1.
 
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MaTaLa said:
Right, ain't blaming...the problems may not have CJP's name on them but the answers have to.
I think the game by game 'is he our guy or not' assessments are BS and are more about just people loving the drama they create while admiring their own e-voice, haha. We got a lot of folks that get butt hurt if we don't believe they the smartest one in the room.
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Truth
 
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MaTaLa said:
Right, ain't blaming...the problems may not have CJP's name on them but the answers have to.
I think the game by game 'is he our guy or not' assessments are BS and are more about just people loving the drama they create while admiring their own e-voice, haha. We got a lot of folks that get butt hurt if we don't believe they the smartest one in the room.
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bingo. well said.
 
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glhal2814 said:
1) Best IL as a true freshman isn't a good thing, even if he is a great player.
2) Trey Smith is a freak. There isn't a Trey Smith tree CJP decided he didn't want lineman from. They normally just aren't ready. And when they are, see #1.
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Trey Smith reminds me a lot of Eric Berry in that they both received poor coaching at Tennessee, and are surrounded by underachieving players, yet it doesn't seem to effect their play at all. They are as good as advertised.
 
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Hacksaw said:
If they don't care, isn't it the responsibility of the head coach to rectify that? Oh, wait...Pruitt said in today's press conference that he didn't bother submitting video of that play to the conference office for review. He actually complimented the Florida player for playing hard. So, uh...yeah.
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I think I read that the refs are keeping an extra close eye on him right now, so maybe he’s aware and trying to not bring any extra attention to himself to hopefully avoid future penalties.

It’s clear as day that the hit was dirty.
 
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All this talk that Ainge is doing now is nice. Where was it last season when he was defending Lyle Jones' regime right up until the SOB was fired.
 
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The TV didn’t show much of the teams run through the T but from the little I saw there was no fire. Looked beat before the game started.
 
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Ainge also said he doesn’t think there’s one guy on roster who isn’t a team player, there’s more like 20.
 
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Freak said:
The problem is I don’t believe there’s a “fix this today” answer. Whether it’s coaching, mental ineptitude, or talent, they’re all going to take time. And just typing that makes me cringe.
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It didn't get this way with one game, one season, or even one bad coach.

If Pruitt can answer the question that he is "fixing" it (or that dreaded phrase "its a process"). The patience will be there.

I don't like using the Saban example (for obvious reasons) but he didn't "fix" it in a year at Bama but everybody knew it was getting fixed. His was as much about reputation as what signs you witnessed during his first year. Pruitt doesn't have that luxury but the fan base (for the most part) will buy in if he is taking steps toward it.
 
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Freak said:
The problem is I don’t believe there’s a “fix this today” answer. Whether it’s coaching, mental ineptitude, or talent, they’re all going to take time. And just typing that makes me cringe.
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I don't disagree. I think everyone should now know this ain't happening over night.
 
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Hacksaw said:
If they don't care, isn't it the responsibility of the head coach to rectify that? Oh, wait...Pruitt said in today's press conference that he didn't bother submitting video of that play to the conference office for review. He actually complimented the Florida player for playing hard. So, uh...yeah.
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I swear I’m leveled headed but there’s a weird, deep-rooted conspiracy theorist in me that makes me believe Pruitt is still bammer through and through and is going to bring what’s left of TN down to the depths of Sheol. Lol. I’m kidding, sord of.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
These kids don’t care. I learned that when JG Got hit dirty a few times and none of them helped him up or defended him. We won’t be good again until these cancerous players are gone. Butch infected them to the point of no return
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Exactly. Taylor lewan would have ripped dudes head off if mariota got hit like that.
 
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BeecherVol said:
I don't like using the Saban example (for obvious reasons) but he didn't "fix" it in a year at Bama but everybody knew it was getting fixed. His was as much about reputation as what signs you witnessed during his first year. Pruitt doesn't have that luxury but the fan base (for the most part) will buy in if he is taking steps toward it.
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Not from what I remember. They'd never admit it now, but Bammers were ready to destroy Saban if year 2 if he didn't deliver some kind of dramatic turnaround. That first year was nothing special, and as you said Saban brought a reputation with him (he'd already won a national title at an SEC school). Remember, he lost to ULM his first year and Shula had beaten ULM 41-7 the prior year.

Saban is lucky he created the dramatic turnaround he did, because his schtick ("trust the process," cranky with the media, he's even criticized their fans before for leaving early, etc.) would wear thin really freaking quick in Tuscaloosa if he didn't.
 
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BeecherVol said:
It didn't get this way with one game, one season, or even one bad coach.

If Pruitt can answer the question that he is "fixing" it (or that dreaded phrase "its a process"). The patience will be there.

I don't like using the Saban example (for obvious reasons) but he didn't "fix" it in a year at Bama but everybody knew it was getting fixed. His was as much about reputation as what signs you witnessed during his first year. Pruitt doesn't have that luxury but the fan base (for the most part) will buy in if he is taking steps toward it.
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Ageed. I’m willing to give Pruitt more than four games, even though I see some early concerns. Some obviously aren’t.
 
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Freak said:
Unfortunately, not everyone does.
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There's a lot of this "a great coach gets it turned around immediately" stuff going on here.

Where exactly is that coming from? There are exceptions of course, but basically every coach who was successful at a rebuilding job has the program humming in year 2 or 3. They quite often look just as bad as before, or even worse, in year 1. It took Dabo 4 years to get Clemson running, and even then there was "Clemsoning" for a couple years after that. Dabo was *this* close to getting fired during/after the 2010 season.
 
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05_never_again said:
Not from what I remember. They'd never admit it now, but Bammers were ready to destroy Saban if year 2 if he didn't deliver some kind of dramatic turnaround. That first year was nothing special, and as you said Saban brought a reputation with him (he'd already won a national title at an SEC school). Remember, he lost to ULM his first year and Shula had beaten ULM 41-7 the prior year.

Saban is lucky he created the dramatic turnaround he did, because his schtick ("trust the process," cranky with the media, he's even criticized their fans before for leaving early, etc.) would wear thin really freaking quick in Tuscaloosa if he didn't.
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Oh they werent happy with 6-7 (or whatever they finished that year) nor losing to Monroe. But they also were coming off 2 .500 coaches (before vacated wins) and a guy that was gone after 2 years.
The short term emotion come out over that by the typicals that every fanbase has, but I don't remember too many questioning the long game at that point yet. Maybe we were talking to or following two different groups of fans which is entirely possible. He probably made a bigger jump from year 1 to year 2 than he even expected. Winning 12 didn't hurt but he wasn't going to be fired for 8 or 9 after his second year either. Year 3 would have had double digit expectations
 
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jakez4ut said:
Well the vocal minority is what is.

I'm not happy about any of this. It's downright depressing.

Doesn't make it any less true though
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We suck. We’ve sucked for way too long. Saturday was one of the worst performances I’ve seen in Neyland Stadium. But we’re only four games into a new era. And that’s my issue: I think some are laying over a decade of misery at the feet of those who have been here for nine months.

Regardless, let’s hope it gets better. We’re all sick of losing.
 
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Freak said:
Ageed. I’m willing to give Pruitt more than four games, even though I see some early concerns. Some obviously aren’t.
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Its a good thing those people don't make the decisions. Otherwise we would be out another coach, another $20 million buyout, and nobody would want to coach here. Its really funny to me that folks have already forgotten how difficult it was to get someone to take this job, not just this last search, but the last 3. Every time it sets the program back due to instability. No real proven coaches want to come here (the ones without baggage anyway). Patience is the only thing we can afford right now, as a fanbase. I just wish Fulmer would stand up, support his hire, and calm the fanbase down.
 
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Freak said:
Ainge also said he doesn’t think there’s one guy on roster who isn’t a team player, there’s more like 20.
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This is sad if true! Definitely explains some of our problems tho. I vote they get benched even if we lose every game we have left.. Tired of seeing half azzed effort. JMO tho
 
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Zues1 said:
It's not like we have a complete offensive line just waiting their turns. Freshmen or not.
I've said it before, it takes years to turn a high school boy into an SEC caliber offensive lineman. Late sophomore early Junior year before they are truly ready. That's if they have the talent and heart to begin with. Pretty much can be said for the D line. This downward spiral started with Dooley and Jones continued the cancer.

It's going to be awhile before this lack of talent and heart can be built.
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Didn’t Cade Mayes start yesterday as a true sophomore? Wanya Morris and Darnell Wright would start for us if they come here next year. It’s all about the Jimmies and Joes
 
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