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Spartacavolus

Spartacavolus

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Having a manic depressant come visit a lively and happy home is ******* depressing.

I feel for people that try to be around to help people with the disease.
However, just as I tell my kids in everything they do, its about effort. Maybe it is a disease, but the effort sucks. Always has. Popping the same depressant pills for 30 years that basically make you a zombie isn't effort. It's a cop out. Saying you can't make effort baffles me. There are many, many people that struggle daily, but give great effort.

Sorry for the rant. I needed to get that off my chest so I can enjoy this wonderful day outside and around the house.

And you can bust my balls about it too. I'm not going to go in the my room for the next 18 hours and cry.
 
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people are different ...... peoples minds work different..

it is no different than one who has seizures and one who doesn't
its not different than a murderer and one who doesn't
minds are built different some can cope some can't
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Having a manic depressant come visit a lively and happy home is ******* depressing.

I feel for people that try to be around to help people with the disease.
However, just as I tell my kids in everything they do, its about effort. Maybe it is a disease, but the effort sucks. Always has. Popping the same depressant pills for 30 years that basically make you a zombie isn't effort. It's a cop out. Saying you can't make effort baffles me. There are many, many people that struggle daily, but give great effort.

Sorry for the rant. I needed to get that off my chest so I can enjoy this wonderful day outside and around the house.

And you can bust my balls about it too. I'm not going to go in the my room for the next 18 hours and cry.
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Agreed. Pfizer and all the drug companies should be held responsible. I'm against suing
People and companies because that's also a cop out and only something people get away with in Americas legal system but they need to be held responsible. The side effects and dependency on drugs is a first world problem but it hurts our society. People need to deal with their own shat by themselves. I won't even take pain pills unless needed down to Tylenol . The drugs they give people do more damage in the long run than help.
 
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rockytop114 said:
people are different ...... peoples minds work different..

it is no different than one who has seizures and one who doesn't
its not different than a murderer and one who doesn't
minds are built different some can cope some can't
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Lack of effort is not a disease.
 
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MY3*VOLS said:
Agreed. Pfizer and all the drug companies should be held responsible. I'm against suing
People and companies because that's also a cop out and only something people get away with in Americas legal system but they need to be held responsible. The side effects and dependency on drugs is a first world problem but it hurts our society. People need to deal with their own shat by themselves. I won't even take pain pills unless needed down to Tylenol . The drugs they give people do more damage in the long run than help.
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Same pain anti depressant meds and xanax for 30 years. And not one improvement. Not one in any phase of life.
 
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It pizzes me off when people use some BS excuse for being "depressed" too. Then when you hear about their lives, you're like wtf you don't have it bad at all.

Everyone goes through something at some point in their lives that could get you down, but it's your choice and yours alone as to how you react to it. Personal story, all my friends kept asking me after my dad died suddenly how I was doing and if I was coping alright, told me I should see a therapist, etc. I just told them to stfu. Yeah I was sad and still get sad at certain times, but 1, my dad would kick my azz if I sat around sad, and 2, I've got my own life to live and people that depend on me. I'd be doing them no favors if I just moped around all the time.

It's just people being lazy.
 
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I hit a bad place in college, mentally. Was just a miserable person. Had gone through some stuff n really got to the place where I questioned everything I believed religiously, is there a God, why would people believe a story like that etc. Mot a big deal to most but for me it was. Was extremely paranoid to the point that walking thruthe parking lotson campus i felt like people were watching/waiting to get me. Idk where it all came from either. One Sunday afternoon I was leaving to go back to campus n my mom said what can I do to help you and I lost it, completely broke down. Saw a therapist twice who let a psych review my file and without ever speaking a word to me determined I needed antidepressants. I never went back, sister don't play them
games.

Looking back idk why I went thru that. Never had an episode like it again. I did work with a lot of athletes who needed referred to counseling and telling them I had been there and being able to explain to them how it worked gave them the courage to do something that carries such a stigma.

I still have triggers but I usually just ***** up against em n when I feel a bout coming on redirect myself n get the **** over it.
 
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VolFan32 said:
It pizzes me off when people use some BS excuse for being "depressed" too. Then when you hear about their lives, you're like wtf you don't have it bad at all.

Everyone goes through something at some point in their lives that could get you down, but it's your choice and yours alone as to how you react to it. Personal story, all my friends kept asking me after my dad died suddenly how I was doing and if I was coping alright, told me I should see a therapist, etc. I just told them to stfu. Yeah I was sad and still get sad at certain times, but 1, my dad would kick my azz if I sat around sad, and 2, I've got my own life to live and people that depend on me. I'd be doing them no favors if I just moped around all the time.

It's just people being lazy.
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What if he was the kind of father that wouldn't have?
 
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I think I'll drive down to St Jude's and tell those lazy-ass kids to hop out of bed and get over it.
 
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Hobock said:
I think I'll drive down to St Jude's and tell those lazy-ass kids to hop out of bed and get over it.
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I'm not talking about cancer ridden kids. I am talking about adults that medicate themselves and watch life go by without giving effort to live better.
 
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Is it possible that the "adults" realized there was a problem, looked for help, was told to take a drug then after time passed, their mind got f'ed up even more and are not capable of knowing what to do?

Just asking, because I don't know.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
I thought you meant what would a non physical father do if whipping dat azz isn't an option. If a kid respects his father, a look or glance is all it takes to know what's right.
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All my dad had/has to do is give me "that look".

I just meant if a father didn't teach.
 
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Behr1213 said:
What if he was the kind of father that wouldn't have?
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Then I'd hear him saying in the back of my head I need to get it together.

The way I look at it is that I had a great father for 23 years which is more than a lot of people get. Maybe that's just a coping mechanism for now, idk, but I feel like I'm handling it the right way instead of going to a doctor who tells me I need meds.
 
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Hobock said:
If there is an actual mental-illness going on, there's no difference.
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Again, lack of effort isn't a mental illness. Lack of effort to try to change habits. Lack of effort to stop watching crap tv all day. Lack of effort to take 5 minutes to get dressed. Lack of effort to want anything different.
 
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VolFan32 said:
Then I'd hear him saying in the back of my head I need to get it together.

The way I look at it is that I had a great father for 23 years which is more than a lot of people get. Maybe that's just a coping mechanism for now, idk, but I feel like I'm handling it the right way instead of going to a doctor who tells me I need meds.
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Some fathers teach their kids, by example, that the government will take care of them.
 
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Behr1213 said:
Is it possible that the "adults" realized there was a problem, looked for help, was told to take a drug then after time passed, their mind got f'ed up even more and are not capable of knowing what to do?

Just asking, because I don't know.
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Been this way since I was a kid. Of course meds are a big part of the problem and have made it worse. Problem is like I mention above. There is no want to do better.
 
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Behr1213 said:
Is it possible that the "adults" realized there was a problem, looked for help, was told to take a drug then after time passed, their mind got f'ed up even more and are not capable of knowing what to do?

Just asking, because I don't know.
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I think that's a real possibility. If meds aren't working why not switch them up? A person who doesn't improve keeps coming to see the shrink, paying that $$$.
 
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Behr1213 said:
Is it possible that the "adults" realized there was a problem, looked for help, was told to take a drug then after time passed, their mind got f'ed up even more and are not capable of knowing what to do?

Just asking, because I don't know.
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This is absolutely possible. It happens everyday. Adding benzos and opiates to someone who already has a chemical imbalance is a recipe for disaster.
 
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