Indiana cheating rumors? Hmmmmm...

#28
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RDU VOL#14 said:
This doesn’t prove anything, but it is interesting
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While I don’t think Indiana is cheating: this is, in my opinion, the most interesting piece of proof shown. Having this many opening drive pick sixes is video game numbers….. is actually a little suspicious. Though the thing is-Purdue and UCLA have bad QBs, and Iowa is Iowa, so it can be explained away. So I’m not going to consider it damning info in any sense.

But this is the first thing that made me stop and go “huh”.
 
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HeuperDrive said:
While I don’t think Indiana is cheating: this is, in my opinion, the most interesting piece of proof shown. Having this many opening drive pick sixes is video game numbers….. is actually a little suspicious. Though the thing is-Purdue and UCLA have bad QBs, and Iowa is Iowa, so it can be explained away. So I’m not going to consider it damning info in any sense.

But this is the first thing that made me stop and go “huh”.
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I mean, the Oregon pick six he telegraphed that throw and the Indiana player was right there. If in anyway that's going to be considered any kind of proof then you might as well say any good defensive interception is "cheating". There's no discernable way to differenciate "cheating" and "good defense", and it's all based on some dumbass claiming it without any real proof.

The problem with conspiracy theory BS like this is it's cherry picked and hyperfocused on, to the point that any conflicting evidence or logic is ignored; and ignoring the latter is the only way to keep the mental gymnastics going.
 
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HeuperDrive said:
While I don’t think Indiana is cheating: this is, in my opinion, the most interesting piece of proof shown. Having this many opening drive pick sixes is video game numbers….. is actually a little suspicious. Though the thing is-Purdue and UCLA have bad QBs, and Iowa is Iowa, so it can be explained away. So I’m not going to consider it damning info in any sense.

But this is the first thing that made me stop and go “huh”.
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It’s pretty bizarre. I think it’s just amazing how good they are, so quickly . They’re not crazy talented, but they’ve dominated Oregon twice, beat Ohio State and destroyed Alabama. That’s just not normal. I get why people are skeptical bc he’s doing it at a doormat school.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
It’s pretty bizarre. I think it’s just amazing how good they are, so quickly . They’re not crazy talented, but they’ve dominated Oregon twice, beat Ohio State and destroyed Alabama. That’s just not normal. I get why people are skeptical bc he’s doing it at a doormat school.
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It has way more to do with the average age and experience of the team than any allegation of cheating.

The difference between an 18/19/20 year old and a 23/24 year old in any sport is, more often than not, going to be huge. Add in the fact that they've got excellent coaching and experience (not like those BYU guys that go on their missions) and you end up with this.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
It’s pretty bizarre. I think it’s just amazing how good they are, so quickly . They’re not crazy talented, but they’ve dominated Oregon twice, beat Ohio State and destroyed Alabama. That’s just not normal. I get why people are skeptical bc he’s doing it at a doormat school.
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Yeah but the problem is the "skeptics" keep flip-flopping and basically want to have it both ways and are just grasping at whatever excuse they can move onto.

Originally it was Indiana played a soft schedule, then they win at Oregon which was said to be either a fluke OR then people said they didn't know how good Oregon was. Then they beat Ohio St. for the B10 and then it was more talk about how the Big 10 is weak and now people don't know how good Oregon and OSU both are.

Then Alabama was going to murder them because obviously SEC, and then Indiana kicks their ass and it's swithced to "Oh they played a soft schedule so that made them fresh to roll through the playoffs" (my personal new favorite idiiotic take) but now suddenly Oregon would beat them in the rematch because reasons, but beating OSU wasn't a big deal because they were overrated because Miami beat them.

And now the new one is...they're cheating. We're now at elementary school playground level reasoning from the numbnuts brigade.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Yeah but the problem is the "skeptics" keep flip-flopping and basically want to have it both ways and are just grasping at whatever excuse they can move onto.

Originally it was Indiana played a soft schedule, then they win at Oregon which was said to be either a fluke OR then people said they didn't know how good Oregon was. Then they beat Ohio St. for the B10 and then it was more talk about how the Big 10 is weak and now people don't know how good Oregon and OSU both are.

Then Alabama was going to murder them because obviously SEC, and then Indiana kicks their ass and it's swithced to "Oh they played a soft schedule so that made them fresh to roll through the playoffs" (my personal new favorite idiiotic take) but now suddenly Oregon would beat them in the rematch because reasons, but beating OSU wasn't a big deal because they were overrated because Miami beat them.

And now the new one is...they're cheating. We're now at elementary school playground level reasoning from the numbnuts brigade.
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They're a damn good team and it's nice to see someone really different in the title game for once. I think it's good for the game, at the end of the day.

I'm actually excited to watch the title game. Will be the first one I've actually watched in forever.
 
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These comments are probably generated somewhere in the Ohio State Fanbase.
However, Mendoza's comments regarding Penn State's JKnowles calling the same defense 3 times on the games winning drive vs PSU makes one believe it is a possibility.
If you look at the winning TD pass it was a pass that could not be defended because of the pass itself based on the abilities of the QB and WR. Unbelievable athleticism by both.
As far as OSU fans are concerned, they are crap stirrers and will make anything up to excuse a loss. ie Bey which was half true without knowing the full truth.
 
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Indiana is cheating. I mean according to many on VN, the only way Bama, AU or any other team is massively successful ie because they cheat. Therefore, IU is definitely cheating.
 
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TXbenVol said:
Indiana has the best coaching staff and most competent coaching staff right now and possibly ever.

What they’ve done with kids who have never been recruited or came in as a 1, 2 and 3 star and stomping teams with 5-stars is just incredible.

They have changed college football.

Fortunately though, others will copy their blueprint and it’ll all be even again.
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lol. They have changed nothing. There are always outliers.
 
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If you can remember the UT/So.Carolina game,they knew what offensive plays before we ran them and the defensive set-up on virtually every play courtesy of Michigan.Shane Beamer is a rim-job of a coach who the week before got destroyed by Fla.Can't coach worth a damn.Gets good players and waste their stay.
 
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Welp, my girlfriend’s cat’s uncle told me that the bulldog has saggy balls. This can be corroborated, but Indiana malfeasance cannot.
 
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Think about it for a second.
Every single OC in the country scripts their first series and plays those tendencies every game...I bet 95% of us on here could tell you right now what Heupel's first 4 plays from scrimmage will be in any game.

That staff and players at IU live in the film room.
Figure out with a better than 50% certainty what the opponents first few plays are going to be and its a lot easier to have guys in position to make plays.
 
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aaronvol said:
I'm not saying they are true or untrue. Indiana has played a heck of a season this year and last. However, a few years ago I had a conversation with one of my friends, a REAL computer guy. I proposed a question (probably in my post-game frustrations of another loss to Georgia or Bama) about how easy it would be for a team to hack into systems to get signals and playbooks. He smiled and said, "Oh, I could do that if given enough time. Anyone who knows how to hack can hack into that." Food for thought. He is oddly from Indiana.
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I heard the same, but I doubt very seriously it's true. Indiana is very well coached, very disciplined, doesn't make mistakes and has grown men playing for them.
 
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IndianaVol said:
Think about it for a second.
Every single OC in the country scripts their first series and plays those tendencies every game...I bet 95% of us on here could tell you right now what Heupel's first 4 plays from scrimmage will be in any game.

That staff and players at IU live in the film room.
Figure out with a better than 50% certainty what the opponents first few plays are going to be and its a lot easier to have guys in position to make plays.
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The teams we play must suck at figuring out Heupel’s scripted plays. I feel like that is when our offense has looked and done the best.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
It's quite hilarious to see fans of programs like Alabama and other blue bloods accusing Indiana of cheating. Like you really want to go there?
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How's the old saying go about point your finger at someone and there are 3 pointing back towards you?
 
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They're playing focused and prepared. Whoever is doing the teaching in the film room knows what they're doing, and the player's take it to the practice field to drill it successfully and consistently.
 
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