Incoming ad in regards to some coaches

[friVOLity]

I love Fulmer and always hoped to see him coaching somewhere again, but one of his major weaknesses was sound hiring/firing decisions, which would doom him (and athletics) as an AD. He was just too loyal to people who had no business being in their positions. See Randy Sanders.

 

[volfannbama]

1. I would be surprised if it isn't Blackburn, pleased if it is Davis, and shocked if it is Fulmer.

2. I doubt anyone will be fired on Day 1. Serrano is on notice if anyone is. Barnes would probably retire if things get bad. Jones is safe for at least two years. Holly? I would think her seat will start to get hot if the program keeps reaching new lows. But if that does happen and she is retained, plenty are going to wonder who's dirty secrets she knows.

Of the less followed programs, Volleyball might his first change. Enough players have transferred out to be very noticeable over the past couple of years. Don't know him, but if it turns out he is perceived as a jerk to his players, it's a waste of money to keep him around.

Holly needs to blackmail people to reamin coach? Lol.....

Tennessee women's basketball: Holly Warlick celebrates her 100th career win | NCAA.com

Warlick became just the 17th coach all-time to win 100 games in her first four years as a head coach, only the second from a Power Five conference in the last 24 years. Warlick is only the third head coach in Southeastern Conference history to win 100 games in her first four NCAA seasons, joining Andy Landers of Georgia and Van Chancellor of Ole Miss.

Any mention of firing Holly is right up there with any mention of Butch Jones being fired.

 

[volfannbama]

Who are the many who question Barnes dedication? A donor? A member of the board? Or some barber from Clinton? Or you and three of your friends? How many are imaginary? When you claim many question? That is kind of vague, Mikey.

Welcome to the internet, where anyone can pull absolute crap out of thin air and the dumb masses will believe it's true.

 

[sport3500]

I think Barnes will finish out his contract and get the men's basketball program into March Madness on a consistent basis.

 

[81Orange]

Blackburn get it.
Volyball needs a new coach. I am surprised Serrano hasn't done better. Shows how hard it is to build a program.
Support here for Barnes as well. Barnes also took over a program in the round bowl. He will get some higher rated players when the supporting cast is in place. Hopefully this fall.

 

[RollerVol]

IMHO...if it is Blackburn he'll review every coach at every sport...he's a Tennessee guy and I'm confident he'll make the best decision based on all information/performance for the betterment of anything UT related...we need our own AD who has "Orange Blood" in their veins...

GO VOLS...GET WELL SOON!

 

[Boca Vol]

There would be more big money had Haslam not bought that white elephant known as the Cleveland Browns

The difference is, while the Browns are just dreadful, they are an asset that will grow in value. Giving to UT is great but there is no financial return.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

IMHO...if it is Blackburn he'll review every coach at every sport...he's a Tennessee guy and I'm confident he'll make the best decision based on all information/performance for the betterment of anything UT related...we need our own AD who has "Orange Blood" in their veins...

GO VOLS...GET WELL SOON!

I doubt that the new AD will be making the decisions about who CBJ has as his assistants. He/she will likely agree with CBJ that the coaching staff should be continuously reviewed to determine if changes should be made. I do not want the Awn to make decisions except for who is going to be the head coaches for all of teams at Tennessee. We do not want or need a micromanaging AD.

 

[FightingScott]

1. Blackburn is the frontrunner, although some donors that are/were high on Dave Hart are pushing his top deputy, Jon Gilbert.

Fulmer is not interested in the job on a permanent basis. If Hart steps aside at the end of football season, Fulmer would be wiling to be the interim AD until a permanent hire is made.

Charles Davis is not interested in leaving his television gigs but is will to assist in the search process if that becomes necessary.

2. There are a few programs on campus that the new AD will have to evaluate soon. Baseball is the most prominent, with Serrano having been unable, to this point, to dig the program out of the deep, deep hole Todd Raleigh put it in.

The women's soccer, men's golf and women's tennis programs have all struggled in recent years and have coaches in the final year of their contracts.

What if we had a football-specific position, like a Director of Football Operations or something? I would really like to see Fulmer back in the operation in some capacity. Tired of AD's who are financiers; we need somebody who knows football.

 

[wesleydmartin]

Capitalization is your friend.

I arrived in this thread wondering what ad (advertisement) you'd seen. I was a little confused until I realized a third of the way through your post that you meant AD (athletic director).

ee cummings aside, there is in fact a reason for the rules of our language...what we call grammar.

...

On topic: idk.

lol same, i was like an advertisement omg not a billboard dissing the coaches lol

 

[jrwvol]

The difference is, while the Browns are just dreadful, they are an asset that will grow in value. Giving to UT is great but there is no financial return.

Not sure I agree with you there. Pilot Flying J Battle at Bristol ring a bell? The money they give to UT assures they have a seat at the table and leverage when negotiating ad placements, etc.

 

[TNnative]

Holly needs to blackmail people to reamin coach? Lol.....

Tennessee women's basketball: Holly Warlick celebrates her 100th career win | NCAA.com

Warlick became just the 17th coach all-time to win 100 games in her first four years as a head coach, only the second from a Power Five conference in the last 24 years. Warlick is only the third head coach in Southeastern Conference history to win 100 games in her first four NCAA seasons, joining Andy Landers of Georgia and Van Chancellor of Ole Miss.

Any mention of firing Holly is right up there with any mention of Butch Jones being fired.

You are probably right. But if you think other SEC coaches saying Tennessee's new lows is due to the conference getting stronger will satisfy Holly's detractors, dream on.

Quote stats and records all you want. The counter-argument will be watch one of last year's losses, and the poor fundamentals. The confusion. The lack of hustle. It is a far cry from the Lady Vols basketball Pat demanded.

I hear the arguments for retaining Holly, but what Lady Vols basketball is now is not what it once was. If the trend continues, I guess we will find out soon enough how it effects attendance and support. And how the next AD addresses it. If he or an increasing amount of fans even care.

 

[TNnative]

What if we had a football-specific position, like a Director of Football Operations or something? I would really like to see Fulmer back in the operation in some capacity. Tired of AD's who are financiers; we need somebody who knows football.

No. Let Phil help ETSU. If he can take that long dormant program that never really did much and turn it into something reasonably attractive, then talk about that. Ex-coaches don't always make good directors.

 

[orangeluvr]

SIAP, I just have a few questions and want to gauge the pulse of Volnation on these topics.

1. Is it the majority opinion of this site that Blackburn is the new incumbent AD, or is there a chance that someone like Fulmer, Charles Davis or anybody else will be named?

2. Realistically which coaches do you believe will be ushered out with the new incoming AD? Holly? Dave Serrano? Butch? I am sure the Weekly's are safe regardless of the AD hire.

Please don't blast me. I missed out on any previous conversation regarding this topic.

Every coach gets nervous when a new AD is hired unless your name is nick saban.

 

[508mikey]

Who are the many who question Barnes dedication? A donor? A member of the board? Or some barber from Clinton? Or you and three of your friends? How many are imaginary? When you claim many question? That is kind of vague, Mikey.

A S/C coach is not the concern of the AD. He hires head coaches, and they each choose their assistants. Only time the AD might stick his nose in on that is if the assistant publicly embarrasses the University.

Do you read the basketball forum during the season and what was the reason texas fired him ? I like Barnes, all Im saying is he wasnt a cheap hire like the your buddy Catbone, claims the AD hires --- as for the S/C coach what dept pays him then ? Last I saw the one UT has only makes 60k

 

[volfannbama]

You are probably right. But if you think other SEC coaches saying Tennessee's new lows is due to the conference getting stronger will satisfy Holly's detractors, dream on.

Quote stats and records all you want. The counter-argument will be watch one of last year's losses, and the poor fundamentals. The confusion. The lack of hustle. It is a far cry from the Lady Vols basketball Pat demanded.

I hear the arguments for retaining Holly, but what Lady Vols basketball is now is not what it once was. If the trend continues, I guess we will find out soon enough how it effects attendance and support. And how the next AD addresses it. If he or an increasing amount of fans even care.

This is the main problem with our fan base. If you are looking for the next Pat Summit, then every coach that comes here will fail.
In four season Holly has 2 Regular Season Champs and an SEC Tourney champ, 4 elite eight appearences. They.Will be okay, not many.coaches gonna do better than that.

Similar to CBJ, you just cant please some people.

But for debate sake, ill ask you what I ask all the people that CBJ replaced.

If Holly is gone, who ya got?

 

[Volosaurus rex]

Holly has the unenviable task of succeeding an utter and absolute legend. Einstein once stated, with respect to Gandhi, that "Generations to come . . . will scarce believe that such a man as this one ever in flesh and blood walked upon this Earth.”

Pat Summitt occupies a position in the hearts and minds of Tennessee fans that is only slightly less revered than the sentiments expressed by Einstein. Virtually every coach who has had the misfortune of being the immediate successor of a legend has failed miserably to sustain the standards established by his/her predecessor.

 

[508mikey]

Holly has the unenviable task of succeeding an utter and absolute legend. Einstein once stated, with respect to Gandhi, that "Generations to come . . . will scarce believe that such a man as this one ever in flesh and blood walked upon this Earth.”

Pat Summitt occupies a position in the hearts and minds of Tennessee fans that is only slightly less revered than the sentiments expressed by Einstein. Virtually every coach who has had the misfortune of being the immediate successor of a legend has failed miserably to sustain the standards established by his/her predecessor.

Cant wait to see who replaces Geno at UCONN

 

[volfannbama]

Holly has the unenviable task of succeeding an utter and absolute legend. Einstein once stated, with respect to Gandhi, that "Generations to come . . . will scarce believe that such a man as this one ever in flesh and blood walked upon this Earth.”

Pat Summitt occupies a position in the hearts and minds of Tennessee fans that is only slightly less revered than the sentiments expressed by Einstein. Virtually every coach who has had the misfortune of being the immediate successor of a legend has failed miserably to sustain the standards established by his/her predecessor.

Im sure you mean in perception in that second paragraph, because record wise, Holly has done quite well.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

Well I just hope the next AD isn't cheap like our other ADs have been. You get what you pay for.

I don't believe the AD's are given a free hand in determining salaries. There are others involved in fixing the Athletic Department's budget.