inching closer

[Power T-Rev]

Didn't a fan say something like.... I didn't want to win by a last second field goal. That is truly pitiful.
GO VOLS! Beat the Hogs!

It's funny to see how people think, isn't it?

 

[tennvols77]

We've been inching closer to mediocrity and being irrelevant for about 15 years. We need to make, and take strides in the opposite direction. Consistent upward movement. Too many steps back from the perception that we are getting better only makes things worse.

 

[Caculator]

To be good like that you have to have an edge, an advantage over the other teams. BJ costs us games with his mind, and consequently any edge we might have is negated by his
king me moves in Power 5 Chess games.

 

[Caculator]

I think what we need to realize is that we should be rooting for Butch Jones. He has everything going for him except game day skills. We should be hopeful that he figures that part out, because he's a rock star at everything else. The best thing for the Tennessee program is for Butch Jones to figure out how to win, because once he does, great things are in store. If he doesn't learn how to win, you have to say goodbye to some things you may not be ready to.

Remember:

1. Dooley couldn't recruit
2. Kiffin wouldn't read the maxims
3. Dooley wouldn't let former players in without prior permission.
4. Kiffin put us in trouble with the NCAA.
5. Dooley was horrible inside the locker room
6. Kiffin cashed checks he couldn't cash (figuratively speaking)
7. Dooley managed a clock worse than Jones did.
8. Kiffin told Tahj Boyd to get to steppin.
9. Dooley believed "Opportunity is Nowhere"
10. Kiffin left us in middle of the night two weeks before national signing day.

The grass is always greener, and things always look better in the rear view mirror than in the windshield.

A national embarrassment on our sideline that will continue to be exploited by first year coaches and up! We just don't understand how good we got it!

 

[Franklin51]

This year will define the CBJ area. The team will either turn the corner and be a solid threat to the SEC or they will fold. As much as I like CBJ I am honestly tired of coach speak. I want him to stand up there and go I will be D**Ned if this will ever happen again. As much as I hate it 7 win seasons wont keep you employed at UT.

 

[68Vol]

I think what we need to realize is that we should be rooting for Butch Jones. He has everything going for him except game day skills. We should be hopeful that he figures that part out, because he's a rock star at everything else. The best thing for the Tennessee program is for Butch Jones to figure out how to win, because once he does, great things are in store. If he doesn't learn how to win, you have to say goodbye to some things you may not be ready to.

Remember:

1. Dooley couldn't recruit
2. Kiffin wouldn't read the maxims
3. Dooley wouldn't let former players in without prior permission.
4. Kiffin put us in trouble with the NCAA.
5. Dooley was horrible inside the locker room
6. Kiffin cashed checks he couldn't cash (figuratively speaking)
7. Dooley managed a clock worse than Jones did.
8. Kiffin told Tahj Boyd to get to steppin.
9. Dooley believed "Opportunity is Nowhere"
10. Kiffin left us in middle of the night two weeks before national signing day.

The grass is always greener, and things always look better in the rear view mirror than in the windshield.

Just the fact that you are having to compare Butch to Dooley and Kiffin should scare you to death. Butch made stupid game decisions at Cincinnati, he makes them here. He's not going to learn from his mistakes because he won't admit he made any.

He can't live on recruiting because he just can't coach.

 

[ReaderVol]

that's not exactly fair now is it. having an opposing opinion from yours doesn't make me or anyone else less a fan.

passion is passion. you choose your view point, i choose mine. win or lose, we'll all be there.

I didn't say anything about that. I said win a couple and they'd be back as in not griping so much. Is that wrong? We beat UGA or Bama and what happens to the fans and media? What if we win both?
That's all I'm saying.

 

[ReaderVol]

When the coaches show something positive, we will too.

The fans that are still here are not leaving.The ones that will come back have been gone for a long time.

Most posters only get attacked when they post something not based in reality, which would include most of your posts.

So not true. When a positive post is made the knives come out almost immediately. Words like delusional, sheep, idiot etc are thrown post haste.

 

[Hubbard]

to quality wins.
We all are making mistakes. The fans, coaches, and players.
The thing is, we are almost there.
It hurts like hell to lose the big games. I wanted Florida s ass bad.
In reality, we ARE a young team and do not have the depth and quality players some of the other teams do.
If you look at the last few years it is obvious we are improving and getting close.
Personally, I think Butch loves UT and has his heart and sole in our program.
If we show some patience, I believe our time will come, and soon.

My impression of your post is that it is full of passivity.

We know that we all make mistakes so I am not sure what your point is. What your point should be is that we should take full and complete responsibility of our mistakes without pointing to others, By taking responsibility of our mistakes we take responsibility for learning from and correcting them.

Getting past "Almost there" is not going to happen without change. Change is not going to happen by waiting on "easy". Coaches can't look at "young" as an excuse.

I don't know of anyone being successful by "inching" their way there. Yes, there are baby steps but there are also monumental steps on the ladder of improvement. This staff has been given two opportunities to take monumental steps of success and have failed with both.

I do have patience but patience is not void of expectation and responsibility.

No one should doubt Butch's love and commitment to the program. The man has worked his tail off and I greatly appreciate his efforts. However, contrary to song lyrics, love is not all that you need.

The question remains if this staff can take the bigger steps of success in the SEC. Experience from recent results do leave us to doubt that they can. That does not mean that their inability has to be permanent. They can learn and improve as well. However, they can not do that by "inching" their way through the SEC. They have to take big boy steps from this point on.

They are driving the bus we are all riding on. I am cheering for them. I do not want them to fail. I believe they have great intentions and they want to be successful.

"Our time" is not in the future. It has been in two 4th quarters. This program must move forward when given the reasonable opportunity.

 

[tnprogrammer]

The fact is that Jones needs to change the way he manages a game. He's consistently putting our guys in bad situation via his in-game decisions. The bad thing is....I don't know that it is something that CAN be fixed. He's apparently had this problem forever. Guys don't change on stuff like this overnight, if ever.

 

[UT_King]

to quality wins.
We all are making mistakes. The fans, coaches, and players.
The thing is, we are almost there.
It hurts like hell to lose the big games. I wanted Florida s ass bad.
In reality, we ARE a young team and do not have the depth and quality players some of the other teams do.
If you look at the last few years it is obvious we are improving and getting close.
Personally, I think Butch loves UT and has his heart and sole in our program.
If we show some patience, I believe our time will come, and soon.

What a joke.

Fans making mistakes? HAHA, thats rich. This fanbase is as passionate and loyal as any in the country. Even after nearly a decade of incompetence by our AD and coaching staffs.

Youth... heard that for about 6 years now. At one point it had some truth to it, but at this point its an excuse, and a lame one, especially after getting beat by two teams younger in key positions.

Look at the last few years?
2013 5-7 Jones choked against vandy
2014 7-6 Jones choked against UF (credit: beat a bad iowa team)
2015 2-2 Already 2 massive chokes.

Does Butch put his heart and soul into this program? Absolutely.
Does Butch recruit well? Absolutely.
Does Butch know how to win? No, and this is the only thing that matters.

Almost means 2-2.

 

[TacomaJPP]

OP, posting anything positive on here will do nothing but bring u attacks.
When we win a couple games most will come back and act as if they never left.

This is why realists get so aggravated with most folks on here.

Realists react to the facts, ie, losses, performance, stats...measurable metrics. Sunshine pumpers predict future hopes based on nothing.

 

[holtridge]

to quality wins.
We all are making mistakes. The fans, coaches, and players.
The thing is, we are almost there.
It hurts like hell to lose the big games. I wanted Florida s ass bad.
In reality, we ARE a young team and do not have the depth and quality players some of the other teams do.
If you look at the last few years it is obvious we are improving and getting close.
Personally, I think Butch loves UT and has his heart and sole in our program.
If we show some patience, I believe our time will come, and soon.

But if we beat Arkansas this week we take one big step towards bowl eligibility. The players every year have that goal of achieving a bowl game invitation.

 

[jakez4ut]

I didn't say anything about that. I said win a couple and they'd be back as in not griping so much. Is that wrong? We beat UGA or Bama and what happens to the fans and media? What if we win both?
That's all I'm saying.

When we win a couple games most will come back and act as if they never left.

it doesn't really matter what you meant. you said we left, as in we're no longer fans. we jumped off the wagon. and you're going to be the one that's still there driving the bus waiting for us to come back.

just say what you mean from now on.

 

[LargeOrange1]

to quality wins.
We all are making mistakes. The fans, coaches, and players.
The thing is, we are almost there.
It hurts like hell to lose the big games. I wanted Florida s ass bad.
In reality, we ARE a young team and do not have the depth and quality players some of the other teams do.
If you look at the last few years it is obvious we are improving and getting close.
Personally, I think Butch loves UT and has his heart and sole in our program.
If we show some patience, I believe our time will come, and soon.

Butch.....is that you?

 

[oregonvol]

Dooley has done a great job coaching the players to be in the right position, to execute the plays right, getting them to buy into his system, to be in the Vol for Life program and play hard for 60 mins. we are just a few plays away from being a good team. we will get there with time, just give him some more time to work with the players.

rinse. repeat.

 

[BeecherVol]

it doesn't really matter what you meant. you said we left, as in we're no longer fans. we jumped off the wagon. and you're going to be the one that's still there driving the bus waiting for us to come back.

just say what you mean from now on.

That happens if you question anything this staff does.

 

[volfanjustin]

to quality wins.
We all are making mistakes. The fans, coaches, and players.
The thing is, we are almost there.
It hurts like hell to lose the big games. I wanted Florida s ass bad.
In reality, we ARE a young team and do not have the depth and quality players some of the other teams do.
If you look at the last few years it is obvious we are improving and getting close.
Personally, I think Butch loves UT and has his heart and sole in our program.
If we show some patience, I believe our time will come, and soon.

Were we a young team in the first 3 quarters? Or just the 4th?

Florida has little depth and less talent, stop making excuses. Butch may love Tennessee but that does not give him a pass.

 

[ice]

Hope you are wearing your asbestos underwear my friend...

My butt hurts already. Flame away.

 

[GVol1966]

to quality wins.
We all are making mistakes. The fans, coaches, and players.
The thing is, we are almost there.
It hurts like hell to lose the big games. I wanted Florida s ass bad.
In reality, we ARE a young team and do not have the depth and quality players some of the other teams do.
If you look at the last few years it is obvious we are improving and getting close.
Personally, I think Butch loves UT and has his heart and sole in our program.
If we show some patience, I believe our time will come, and soon.

Young and lack of depth excuse long gone!
We have a good enough team that we should be 4-0,
Are we improving, wide receivers don't seem to be any better , Dobbs hasn't gotten any better passing, secondary still struggles, everybody's been talking about bad in game coaching but what worries me is the players lack of improvement, like they aren't being coached up!

 

[ReaderVol]

This is why realists get so aggravated with most folks on here.

Realists react to the facts, ie, losses, performance, stats...measurable metrics. Sunshine pumpers predict future hopes based on nothing.

There are no variability in measurable? The measurable are stagnant?

 

[ice]

What are the fan's mistakes? Filling up Neyland? Checkering the stadium? Traveling by the thousands to Gainesville?

I am thinking about being impatient.
We ran off the best coach TN ever had with maybe the exception of Neyland. We have been in misery ever since.

 

[ReaderVol]

it doesn't really matter what you meant. you said we left, as in we're no longer fans. we jumped off the wagon. and you're going to be the one that's still there driving the bus waiting for us to come back.

just say what you mean from now on.

I made an assumption that all would know what I meant.

 

[jakez4ut]

There are no variability in measurable? The measurable are stagnant?

no, they are not. and the future is not pre-destined.

if the measurable does change positively, and results follow, accordingly, so should the praise that they should get for making the adjustments.

but that's TBD.

in the here and now, the criticism is fair based on what we've seen so far.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

We will still have the season most rational people predicted. 8-4.

two losses on coaching, but those same coaches had shown us some great game plans. They just got conservative. It is an easy enough fix. the players also have to learn to keep their foot on the throttle.

Did you really expect a team that got the crap kicked out of them by every decent SEC team would suddenly learn how to close out games with the big boys?