Importance of an OOC schedule

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While it's definitely true OOC games help to get players experience. We have not benefited from early blowouts in a long time, and when we have blown a team out early in games it seems our coaches have left starters in way to long almost to pad their stats and give them extra practice.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Dude... We had more bye weeks than games in November. Extra practices with this staff, are not yielding results, because as a whole, they are bad at developing players.
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Too'Too' and Eric Grey? Players have to give effort. It is not all on the coaches.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Disclaimer: this is not in support of Pruitt, he still needs to go....however

IMHO, the lack of an out of conference schedule has really hurt this team this year, and honestly many other football teams. I’ll explain briefly.

4 extra games to get players experience.

Build momentum off of (most likely) wins.

Extra practices for the players.

More time for strength and conditioning.

More evaluation of the coaching staff.

Etc....

Covid aside, if we played an OOC schedule this year, we likely go 3-4 in those games (wins vs Charlotte, Furman, and Troy, loss to Oklahoma). That puts us at potentially 6 wins (after beating Vandy today)....with the chance of picking up an extra SEC win or two due to more experience and building off momentum. So possibly going 7-5 or 6-6.

This is NOT an excuse for the product we have seen on the field, but does offer an interesting take on the whole situation and begs the question that maybe there is more to it than just what the coaching staff has put together this year. Flame away...
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Or did the lack of OOC expose where UT really stands as far as rebuilds? We had momentum beating SC and Mizzou and now look at us. Experience for young guys, we literally have a free season to try new guys, i.e. QB but yet we refuse until forced, why is that? I will give you the extra practice and evaluation, but it is not like this team was a bunch of unknowns coming into the season. This is year three under Pruitt, JG is a fifth-year senior, what's his excuse? There are other programs in similar situations that have found a way. Like you had implied, it is ultimately on JP. If we didn't win the SC and Mizzou game I could possibly see all of your points. If anything one can argue the lack of OOC hurt SC and Mizzou more than it did TN. Regardless, SC appears to want to try and fix their problem while Mizzou is 5-3. All the while UT is gonna UT.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Disclaimer: this is not in support of Pruitt, he still needs to go....however

IMHO, the lack of an out of conference schedule has really hurt this team this year, and honestly many other football teams. I’ll explain briefly.

4 extra games to get players experience.

Build momentum off of (most likely) wins.

Extra practices for the players.

More time for strength and conditioning.

More evaluation of the coaching staff.

Etc....

Covid aside, if we played an OOC schedule this year, we likely go 3-4 in those games (wins vs Charlotte, Furman, and Troy, loss to Oklahoma). That puts us at potentially 6 wins (after beating Vandy today)....with the chance of picking up an extra SEC win or two due to more experience and building off momentum. So possibly going 7-5 or 6-6.

This is NOT an excuse for the product we have seen on the field, but does offer an interesting take on the whole situation and begs the question that maybe there is more to it than just what the coaching staff has put together this year. Flame away...
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The QB position is the biggest casualty of Covid (Cancelling Spring Camp, No OOC games).....

Even if we didn't get a Spring camp, but got a full 12 game schedule, Bailey is likely starter or have significant playing time by this time.

No excuses for other personnel groups, but the schedule, or lack thereof, is a reason that Bailey (who was always the heir apparent after JG) didn't takeover sooner in season.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Disclaimer: this is not in support of Pruitt, he still needs to go....however

IMHO, the lack of an out of conference schedule has really hurt this team this year, and honestly many other football teams. I’ll explain briefly.

4 extra games to get players experience.

Build momentum off of (most likely) wins.

Extra practices for the players.

More time for strength and conditioning.

More evaluation of the coaching staff.

Etc....

Covid aside, if we played an OOC schedule this year, we likely go 3-4 in those games (wins vs Charlotte, Furman, and Troy, loss to Oklahoma). That puts us at potentially 6 wins (after beating Vandy today)....with the chance of picking up an extra SEC win or two due to more experience and building off momentum. So possibly going 7-5 or 6-6.

This is NOT an excuse for the product we have seen on the field, but does offer an interesting take on the whole situation and begs the question that maybe there is more to it than just what the coaching staff has put together this year. Flame away...
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True. We would have seen JG go sooner perhaps.
 
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It has been of vital importance to all UT coaches going back to Fulmer.

It has masked the incompetence of whichever supposed genius the Vol program has put on the sidelines with the headphones and paid top 20 salaries without top 20 results for going on 15 years or more.
 
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CAVPUT said:
We'll never know, but under Pruitt and this staff, I've learned there are no sure wins/patsies to use as tune ups for league play. Georgia State will forever be attached to his name.
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This reminds me of the quote from the movie Rounders, "If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you are the sucker."

Under this coaching regime, there is at least one sure win/patsy to be found. Us.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
It has been of vital importance to all UT coaches going back to Fulmer.

It has masked the incompetence of whichever supposed genius the Vol program has put on the sidelines with the headphones and paid top 20 salaries without top 20 results for going on 15 years or more.
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I think our biggest problems started when they changed the sidelines we were one as the home team. Generations of kids grew up learning to run through the "T" and going left. This has obviously had a significant impact on our program.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Agreed, but 6-6 or 7-5 looks better than 3-7
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I think this is a key defining point in our fan base. Those UT fans that want to keep Pruitt want the team to "look better". The ever-growing segment of the fan base that wants Pruitt fired immediately wants the team to "be better". Padding the team's record by beating up on small out-of-conference teams that you're surprised even bother fielding a football program (for example, next year's out-of-conference schedule comes to mind here) doesn't make the team better. It just means that we played teams that suck even worse than we do. With Pruitt as head coach, this is becoming an increasingly more difficult criterion to meet.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I think our biggest problems started when they changed the sidelines we were one as the home team. Generations of kids grew up learning to run through the "T" and going left. This has obviously had a significant impact on our program.
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I really think you're on to something with this.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I think our biggest problems started when they changed the sidelines we were one as the home team. Generations of kids grew up learning to run through the "T" and going left. This has obviously had a significant impact on our program.
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Or when they got rid of Orange Smokey and the rifle in Crockett’s hands lol
 
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vol1981 said:
Anybody remember that popular song from around 1960? 'The Great Pretender'
That should be Pruitt's theme song.
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I think it really relates to the Tennessee program. The schedule this year without the paid patsies shows you exactly where this program stands in the SEC. If we are not the worst program in the SEC then we are the next team up.

For years we have won won a weak OOC schedule to win 6-7-8 games and our athletic director says, “We’re back!”
 
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I tried to think of it this way.....

The only game that they have lost, so far, that was not on the previous schedule was Auburn. They are likely to also lose to Texas A&M.

So, a 6-6 record under normal circumstances would have had people furious. The thought was Arkansas coming on the schedule from the West was a gift that was tailor made.

8-4 with losses to Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and Oklahoma was the floor. And then, a lot of people voiced there opinion that in order for Pruitt to take a step he actually needed to beat one of those four. But, 8-4 with wins over Charlotte, Furman, Troy, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Arkansas, South Carolina and Missouri wouldn't have made people happy. Maybe they wouldn't be pissed. But, they would not be happy.

It's the losses to Arkansas and Kentucky that are inexcusable compounded by the fact that previous seasons included inexcusable losses. And worse, it's the fact that the games against those teams were over entering the 4th quarter.

I mean, if I said in the preseason Arkansas would outscore Tennessee 24-0 in the 2nd half, I would have possibly (A) been banned for trolling (B) had people lining up to place bets with me (C) would have had people suggesting I needed to seek help from a mental health professional.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Speaking of which, why did they change it?

Did we want to get opposing bench closer to the student section?
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Maybe.

Might help with heat in early season games going from East sideline to West sideline too.

Maybe easier to steal opponents signals too
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Disclaimer: this is not in support of Pruitt, he still needs to go....however

IMHO, the lack of an out of conference schedule has really hurt this team this year, and honestly many other football teams. I’ll explain briefly.

4 extra games to get players experience.

Build momentum off of (most likely) wins.

Extra practices for the players.

More time for strength and conditioning.

More evaluation of the coaching staff.

Etc....

Covid aside, if we played an OOC schedule this year, we likely go 3-4 in those games (wins vs Charlotte, Furman, and Troy, loss to Oklahoma). That puts us at potentially 6 wins (after beating Vandy today)....with the chance of picking up an extra SEC win or two due to more experience and building off momentum. So possibly going 7-5 or 6-6.

This is NOT an excuse for the product we have seen on the field, but does offer an interesting take on the whole situation and begs the question that maybe there is more to it than just what the coaching staff has put together this year. Flame away...
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Did you sleep through our first two out of conference games last year?

I don't want to ruin it for you...
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I think our biggest problems started when they changed the sidelines we were one as the home team. Generations of kids grew up learning to run through the "T" and going left. This has obviously had a significant impact on our program.
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It always blew my mind that we used the sideline where the sun was so bad. Maybe we moved into the shade and got Vitamin D deficient.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Disclaimer: this is not in support of Pruitt, he still needs to go....however

IMHO, the lack of an out of conference schedule has really hurt this team this year, and honestly many other football teams. I’ll explain briefly.

4 extra games to get players experience.

Build momentum off of (most likely) wins.

Extra practices for the players.

More time for strength and conditioning.

More evaluation of the coaching staff.

Etc....

Covid aside, if we played an OOC schedule this year, we likely go 3-4 in those games (wins vs Charlotte, Furman, and Troy, loss to Oklahoma). That puts us at potentially 6 wins (after beating Vandy today)....with the chance of picking up an extra SEC win or two due to more experience and building off momentum. So possibly going 7-5 or 6-6.

This is NOT an excuse for the product we have seen on the field, but does offer an interesting take on the whole situation and begs the question that maybe there is more to it than just what the coaching staff has put together this year. Flame away...
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I had this very same thought the other day. I had us at 6-6 before the covid stuff happened. This season is basically what I thought it would be.
 
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