Impact of recruits........

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Fine Vol

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Within 4 years should we expect a shot at a NC with the quality of talent we have recruited as of late? We should win a SEC title at the least. We will see what CPF can do with all this new talent.
 
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Fine Vol said:
Within 4 years should we expect a shot at a NC with the quality of talent we have recruited as of late? We should win a SEC title at the least. We will see what CPF can do with all this new talent.
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you know, the recruiting class is great, because it increases our chances of having as much good talent as possible. it's not a guarantee. John Adams actually has a good article reviewing the 03 class....not sure where it was ranked but there were some really high profile guys in that class...it was amazing to see how these guys were rated coming in and what actualy happened to them while in college....

having said that, the future sure looks better......the problem with all this is...take a look around the recruiting rankings. FL, SC, LSU, GA, Auburn etc.....aren't exactly lagging behind in talent either.

the SEC will be tough enough to win in and of itself over the next 3-4 years. BUT....lack of talent on our part should not be a reason for not winning it. And the same can/will be said of all our major competiton of the same time span.

our chances are increased yes, but to say it's "going" to happen........not there yet.
 
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jakez4ut said:
you know, the recruiting class is great, because it increases our chances of having as much good talent as possible. it's not a guarantee. John Adams actually has a good article reviewing the 03 class....not sure where it was ranked but there were some really high profile guys in that class...it was amazing to see how these guys were rated coming in and what actualy happened to them while in college....

having said that, the future sure looks better......the problem with all this is...take a look around the recruiting rankings. FL, SC, LSU, GA, Auburn etc.....aren't exactly lagging behind in talent either.

the SEC will be tough enough to win in and of itself over the next 3-4 years. BUT....lack of talent on our part should not be a reason for not winning it. And the same can/will be said of all our major competiton of the same time span.

our chances are increased yes, but to say it's "going" to happen........not there yet.
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Agreed 100% :thumbsup:
 
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Not naming names here, but our recruiting classes need to be about 150% better than the competition's classes so we can overcome their players' improvement and our players' regression.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Not naming names here, but our recruiting classes need to be about 150% better than the competition's classes so we can overcome their players' improvement and our players' regression.
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:cray: :popcorn:
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Not naming names here, but our recruiting classes need to be about 150% better than the competition's classes so we can overcome their players' improvement and our players' regression.
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Sorry BigPapaVol, but that's just ridiculous..
 
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Yea big papa your out of line, so go to our new Dunce thread, and download this hat
 
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Recruting the top talent has never been our problem. The only thing is do these boys have what it takes to compete and most importantly win championships.
 
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OWB said:
Sorry BigPapaVol, but that's just ridiculous..
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can't I just have some fun? I fully expected to be lambasted as a Negavol.

I think the staff should revel in this occasion because they are great at this part of the job. Maybe we should begin to focus more attention here because we'd be much happier far more often. Maybe equate Top 5 with current excitement of winning SEC title and #1 class with national championship.

All joking aside, I am excited about this group and hope that player development picks up over where it has been over the past couple of groups. I have high expectations and this type of class tends to fan those flames.

Unfortunately, we often gauge our recruiting on raw ability of players, but don't have the insight to understand a players receptiveness to coaching or their willingness to listen / learn. Hence, the coaching staff (especially CPF) probably gets unfairly blamed for poor personnel development and that is a sad, but very real part of coaching.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
can't I just have some fun? I fully expected to be lambasted as a Negavol.

I think the staff should revel in this occasion because they are great at this part of the job. Maybe we should begin to focus more attention here because we'd be much happier far more often. Maybe equate Top 5 with current excitement of winning SEC title and #1 class with national championship.

All joking aside, I am excited about this group and hope that player development picks up over where it has been over the past couple of groups. I have high expectations and this type of class tends to fan those flames.

Unfortunately, we often gauge our recruiting on raw ability of players, but don't have the insight to understand a players receptiveness to coaching or their willingness to listen / learn. Hence, the coaching staff (especially CPF) probably gets unfairly blamed for poor personnel development and that is a sad, but very real part of coaching.
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very true statement.
 
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we've never had a problem recruiting. The coaching is what is suspect. We are infamous around the nation for not developing talent well at all.
 
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blaker024 said:
we've never had a problem recruiting. The coaching is what is suspect. We are infamous around the nation for not developing talent well at all.
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So I guess you think Fulmer is just good at choosing NFL ready talent out of high school? That's why we have put more players in the league other than like one other school.

What an erroneous post.
 
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The Dude said:
So I guess you think Fulmer is just good at choosing NFL ready talent out of high school? That's why we have put more players in the league other than like one other school.

What an erroneous post.
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when you put it like that........lol.

but i actually do agree that player development has been an issue in the past....
 
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The Dude said:
So I guess you think Fulmer is just good at choosing NFL ready talent out of high school? That's why we have put more players in the league other than like one other school.

What an erroneous post.
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they've gotten there IN SPITE of our tutelege, not because of it
 
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BigPapaVol said:
they've gotten there IN SPITE of our tutelege, not because of it
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ok, i've already said i agree that player development has been an issue....but what have these guys been doing at practice....learning to cook or something? it's neither as good as the Dude thinks it is, but it's not as bad as you, blaker or I think it is either....despite common belief, i bet the coaches on staff actually do know SOMETHING about football.....how much...eh, that's debatable.:)
 
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jakez4ut said:
ok, i've already said i agree that player development has been an issue....but what have these guys been doing at practice....learning to cook or something? it's neither as good as the Dude thinks it is, but it's not as bad as you, blaker or I think it is either....despite common belief, i bet the coaches on staff actually do know SOMETHING about football.....how much...eh, that's debatable.:)
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Player development has been an issue (Pat Washington), and still is (O-Line), but to say they have made it to the NFL despite the coaching they received on the Hill is stupid.
 
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The Dude said:
So I guess you think Fulmer is just good at choosing NFL ready talent out of high school? That's why we have put more players in the league other than like one other school.

What an erroneous post.
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We've had a few guys come through UT and contribute very little, but then somehow they find steady work in the NFL. That doesn't speak well for our player development.
 
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