Im sick of Moral Loss U

#28
#28
It just means that Ol' Johnny was absolutely correct about one thing . There really is a " Legion of The Miserable ".

Tn has a close loss it's FAHR somebody Anybody. Tn wins and it's , Well That one does not really count . I am glad i got a family life . Being that miserable all the time is too much work .
 
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fade route said:
There is a difference between claiming moral victories and acknowledging progress.
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Agree, Fade.

Here's how i look at it.

I look at this program like a stock. I look at wins like earnings. And you know which earnings matter? The next ones. Because no matter the PR says between quarterly earnings releases, the earnings vs expectations rule the day.

But what are the Street's expectations based on? All available and relevant current information. The current business environment. The current market conditions. The current industry. The current competitive landscape.

You know what they're not based on? Outdated information. Nobody is pointing at yahoo! And saying "man, in 1999 they were at an all time high! This stock sucks bc it's nothing compared to the growth and success from 16 years ago!"

Twitter is worth 21 billion dollars but they lose almost a dollar per share. If Twitter cut their losses in half, the company would spike in value... Even though it loses money. Cutting losses for a company in a position where it had been losing money is still very real value creation.

Facebook and Twitter and in the same industry, are direct competitors, and are under the same business environment. Facebook makes a dollar per share. But, do you think Twitter investors are gonna whine if Twitter cuts their losses and gain more value because Facebook makes more? No. They'll recognize the value created and enjoy it, and most likely reinvest.

Summary: expectations should be based on current information and environments. Team 119 might meet them. They might not. The expectation was 8-4. But, to deny the progress given prior period results vs the competition is folly. The environment has changed since the 90s. The landscape is different. What's truly amazing is the very real, visible, and attainable path back to prominence in an age where it's infinitely more difficult to sustain success.

That's value, and that's where this team is projected to go in the next 12-24 months.
 
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vols 30 said:
Just remember " nega" is Swahili for "realistic"
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Nope. Realistic is English for realistic. Nega are the ones that can't see how much better we are this year compared to last year. Yes, we should have won some of these games, particularly the UF game. However, team 118 would have gotten destroyed by the teams we narrowly lost to. We still need to work the deep ball, secondary coverage, and field goal kicking. All of the other aspects have vastly improved. Last season it was O Line, offensive play calling, secondary, the deep ball, depth, strength, speed, and more. Just ask Vandy/USC/Mizzou which team they would rather be up against. I'm sticking with Butch and Co. and look forward to a very bright future...a realistic view.
 
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So all the "realist" don't even need to watch any more games. Even if we win out, it won't matter since the next five opponents are crap teams anyway.

Coulda, shoulda, woulda, against all the good teams, nothing left to cheer for, we suck bottom line.
 
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ReaderVol said:
To people who have the sense of a blade of grass you sir are correct. However, well you know who posts on here so...
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What about some of the questionable decisions from Butch? People speak their opinions on this and are quickly labeled negavols.
 
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#34
Projected 8-4 season was made for this year. !2-0 as many of you expect is a joke.
CBJ is right on schedule. Next year it will be a 10 win season.
 
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vols 30 said:
What about some of the questionable decisions from Butch? People speak their opinions on this and are quickly labeled negavols.
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Butch made some questionable decisions . I also see Improvement in the play of the team . Butch gets credit for both statements . It really was not hard to say either one .
 
#37
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chattavol420 said:
The worst was this past loss. I think a bunch of our fan literally celebrated. Wtf?! There's a thread titled respect with something like 50 freaking like talking about how we now have the respect of bama fans. Excuse me while I throw up. We blew another game we were leading late. Bama didn't come with their a game and were there for the taking. But let's all celebrate we played the greatest team ever close. Yaaaa
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Excuse me while I add to my ignore list.
 
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#38
#38
Never heard of a moral loss - thank you VN for teaching me something new everyday.

I'll put this in the escape goat, pocket presents and exercising the demons group of new things.
 
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fade route said:
There is a difference between claiming moral victories and acknowledging progress.
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Agree. I think there's also a huge difference in "making excuses" and stating justifiable reasons why some things may happen or have a high probability of happening.
 
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This was the most disturbing thing I've read vis a vis the topic of this thread:

“It’s not like we’re getting killed,” said senior offensive lineman Kyler Kerbyson. “In the past, we played top-10 teams and we’d get blown out all the time. Now we’re there. We’re there. We really believe in ourselves.”
 
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Other_Guy said:
I just read a thread stating "we didnt beat UGA" and gave an excuse why we should have lost the game and.it wasn't really a win. I've seen it several times after the Georgia game and its finally set me off.

After letting Oklahoma, Florida and Arkansas come back and win: "Enough with the excuses! We should have won! Just win! That's all that matters! You guys accept losing! Moral Victory U!"

Beat Georgia: "We should have lost that game!"

Its getting really hard to post on here anymore :/

Moral Loss U baby
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If you think we didn't beat Georgia you can pick another message board. Without the Hurd fumble that lead to a td we would have won by 21. I question your antics here...
 
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vols 30 said:
What about some of the questionable decisions from Butch? People speak their opinions on this and are quickly labeled negavols.
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Having questions is one thing but for people to run in here saying he'll never win here or farh the coaches is asinine.
 
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DownTheField said:
This was the most disturbing thing I've read vis a vis the topic of this thread:

“It’s not like we’re getting killed,” said senior offensive lineman Kyler Kerbyson. “In the past, we played top-10 teams and we’d get blown out all the time. Now we’re there. We’re there. We really believe in ourselves.”
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That's not disturbing. I'm glad they believe!
 
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Sick of losing? Yes. Are the Vols, losers? Yes of 4 games this year. Are they winners? Yes of 3 games. Plenty to be negative about, but plenty to be proud of, and it's not any of the losses, but the effort put for in all games played this year, is something to be proud of. I think negavols, hit a panic button, give up all hope, and then after a loss, they are happy to say, told you so. To each his own, what ever it take for you to get thru the year, I prefer to expect greatness and be disappointed, if not achieved.

I will say Butch needs to set the tone of, to gamble for a game changing play, is not a bad thing.

Go Vols!
 
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volinbham said:
Never heard of a moral loss - thank you VN for teaching me something new everyday.

I'll put this in the escape goat, pocket presents and exercising the demons group of new things.
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Moral Loss U is a sister college to Loose Morals University
 
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oldfartvol said:
So, you're saying you prefer losing like we did before CBJ got here? ( Getting our a$$ handed to us from start to finish)?

Yeah, I miss those 52-14 thumpings we endured under previous coaches. :crazy:
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Yeah, because I said that....


Or not...
 
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