I'm not too concerned about LB next year, Here's why

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volfromfla56

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Here's why:

Who's coming back:

47 Jerod Askew--- Redshirt, but by all accounts is a beast

43 Savion Frazier---played exceptionally well until injury, will have a solid senior year

47 Greg King---- played well, but only a freshman, another year and he'll be a monster

37 Nigel Mitchell-Thornton- again, freshman still learning, but he'll be good next year

34 Herman Lathers- Jury still out, but coaches are high on him, again young and still learning!

56 Nick Reveiz---had all american #'s till his injury, and is the leader of this team with Eric Berry gone. He's like a 230lb Rudy!

97 Robert Nelson--- wasn't the biggest recruit out of HS but this guy has been a vol his whole life, he wants on the field bad!

42 LaMarcus Thompson---- another one of those, not fair injuries that really cost us down the stretch!

9 Daryl Vereen--- has proven himself at this level, not starter material, but provides solid depth

Not to mention Marlon Walls, who is either defensive end or linebacker, doesn't matter, coaches think he has to be on the field next year.

New comers:

Ralph Williams-- from what I hear is underrated, we could lose him, but I think he stays a vol!

Micheal Taylor-- Call him small if you like, but if you watched the UA game yesterday you know he's going to be a great player here!


The reason we have gone after seemingly every top defensive lineman is because in 2011, this is all we'll have, we need depth there more than any other position right now.
 
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Fail...... Vereen is gone, Frazier and Reviez are both coming off major knee injurys so no one knows if they'll be even close to the level they were before, there is a reason Askew got redshirted even when all those other guys got hurt, and don't assume just because someone is a freshman they'll automatically improve to the point of a beast, and Thompson is more injury prone than any of our linebackers.....
 
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Saying that I think Taylor is a stud and can contribute immediatley, RW may be a redshirt guy, but you never know.
 
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volguy0992 said:
Fail...... Vereen is gone, Frazier and Reviez are both coming off major knee injurys so no one knows if they'll be even close to the level they were before, there is a reason Askew got redshirted even when all those other guys got hurt, and don't assume just because someone is a freshman they'll automatically improve to the point of a beast, and Thompson is more injury prone than any of our linebackers.....
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Vareen is gone, this is news to me, last time I checked he is a sophomore! Did he get released?
When "all those other guys" got hurt, we had 3-4 games left in the season, Kiffin was asked about Askew. He said he didn't want to take the redshirt off him so late in the season.

Also, Nick Reviez is recovering very well, way ahead of schedule. Same with Frazier. You may be right about Thompson being injury prone, but when you think about it, anybody who puts on a pair of cleats in the SEC is prone to injury, some are just more lucky than others.

Your lack of faith is disturbing!
 
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Vereen left a few weeks ago, about same time as Vinson and Donald (yet the official depth chart posted on the UT site for the bowl game still listed him and Vinson).

Those knee injuries can take a long time for recovery, sometimes more than a year, though sometimes less.

Still, I share your optimism about the linebacker position -- we did get a lot of guys into game action.
 
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Wow really.

Marlon Walls is a Defensive Tackle.

Jerod Askew isn't too bright and was passed on the depth chart by a very sub par NMT.

Frazier is decent-nothing more
Reveiz is decent-nothing more
Lamarcus is decent-nothing more

King looked the best out of the bunch and has good potential

Once again, we could be lookin at fielding the worst LB core in the entire SEC
You BETTER be worried about LB
 
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volfromfla56 said:
Here's why:

Who's coming back:

47 Jerod Askew--- Redshirt, but by all accounts is a beast

43 Savion Frazier---played exceptionally well until injury, will have a solid senior year

47 Greg King---- played well, but only a freshman, another year and he'll be a monster

37 Nigel Mitchell-Thornton- again, freshman still learning, but he'll be good next year

34 Herman Lathers- Jury still out, but coaches are high on him, again young and still learning!

56 Nick Reveiz---had all american #'s till his injury, and is the leader of this team with Eric Berry gone. He's like a 230lb Rudy!

97 Robert Nelson--- wasn't the biggest recruit out of HS but this guy has been a vol his whole life, he wants on the field bad!

42 LaMarcus Thompson---- another one of those, not fair injuries that really cost us down the stretch!

9 Daryl Vereen--- has proven himself at this level, not starter material, but provides solid depth

Not to mention Marlon Walls, who is either defensive end or linebacker, doesn't matter, coaches think he has to be on the field next year.

New comers:

Ralph Williams-- from what I hear is underrated, we could lose him, but I think he stays a vol!

Micheal Taylor-- Call him small if you like, but if you watched the UA game yesterday you know he's going to be a great player here!


The reason we have gone after seemingly every top defensive lineman is because in 2011, this is all we'll have, we need depth there more than any other position right now.
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Marlon Walls will play LB at 290 lbs? Dang, we must really be desperate.
 
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JayGunna said:
Wow really.

Marlon Walls is a Defensive Tackle.

Jerod Askew isn't too bright and was passed on the depth chart by a very sub par NMT.

Frazier is decent-nothing more
Reveiz is decent-nothing more
Lamarcus is decent-nothing more

King looked the best out of the bunch and has good potential

Once again, we could be lookin at fielding the worst LB core in the entire SEC
You BETTER be worried about LB
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You're wrong.

Frazier is above average (behind rico and played out of postition at mlb) and a good athlete
Rezeiz is solid. Smart and great motor and good tackler
Lamarcus played very well when he was healthy this year. You missed that one bigtime
You're right about King, he looks like he'll be a good player and rotation guy next year.
Lathers came on strong in bowl, he'll contribute as well.

And last but certainly not least, we have monte and lance to work with these guys after a full season of film to study.
 
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Wait and see what the spring shows us. Then we should get to see Askew and Nelson, an older and wiser NMT, and hopefully King will be back out there in the spring (but I don't know if he'll be ready that soon). Don't forget, Lathers was coming on at the end of the season and he wasn't even 100% healthy.
 
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Havn't been paying close enough attention to Walls, but the depth chart lists him at 225, not 290 but again, haven't been paying attention close enough, the overall point of the OP was that there are bigger holes to fill than LB. There isn't an Al Wilson in the bunch we have, but overall its still a solid group. Defensive line and O line is where we need the most help.... and guess what the staff is recruiting most in this class d-line and o-line. That and maybe the best group of wide outs in this recruiting crop!
 
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u should read new article on TOS, the staff is desperately chasing down LBs & OL
 
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JayGunna said:
u should read new article on TOS, the staff is desperately chasing down LBs & OL
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Really, most of our young talent is at linebacker and defensive back. Our D line is mostly upperclassmen, and besides, ask any NFL, college, or even HS coach, defensive line is where you need the most depth. We need O line I agree, much more than we need linebackers.
 
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volfromfla56 said:
Really, most of our young talent is at linebacker and defensive back. Our D line is mostly upperclassmen, and besides, ask any NFL, college, or even HS coach, defensive line is where you need the most depth. We need O line I agree, much more than we need linebackers.
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No to all of that.

Rogan is pry leaving early with Berry. Edwards got kicked off team. Vinson is gone. Currently 0 db's committed. So I'm not sure where you got that from.

Linebackers are beat up also. Two guys coming off major injuries. Those two may never be the same again.

And the defensive line.... Hughes and Wall are young. There are like 5 more d-linemen currently committed in this class. So the defensive line right now is far from upper classman.
 
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Well u may think that but the staff is out turning over rocks trying to get LBs. I don't care what NFL or HS coaches say, this staff is out searching high and low for LBs For a reason. Because the LBs we have on the roster are not very good. It is our Glaring weakness. Its the reason Eric Berry basically played the 4th LB.

I understand DL is important but the Tennessee coaching staff feels LB is the bigger concern
 
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Head Coach Lane Kiffin...feels he needs to upgrade his team's speed and they
Have to finish their recruiting class with offensive Lineman and Linebackers.
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
No to all of that.

Rogan is pry leaving early with Berry. Edwards got kicked off team. Vinson is gone. Currently 0 db's committed. So I'm not sure where you got that from.

Linebackers are beat up also. Two guys coming off major injuries. Those two may never be the same again.

And the defensive line.... Hughes and Wall are young. There are like 5 more d-linemen currently committed in this class. So the defensive line right now is far from upper classman.
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Gerald Williams, Chris Walker, and Ben Martin Will Be seniors and will be extremely hard to replace. Hughes, Bohannon and Wall will get a lot of PT next year, along with a few guys from this class. You need 8-10 SOLID defensive linemen because they tire out faster than anyone else on the field.

And as far as the defensive backfield is concerned, yes if Rogan does indeed go pro, we could be hurting there, but remember
Darren Myles Jr.
Anthony Anderson
Art Evans
C.J. Fleming
Janzen Jackson
Prentiss Waggner
Stephaun Raines
Rod Wilks
Not to mention Marsalis Teague will probably move to defensive back.

Seem to better there than up front IMO.

Remember pressure creates turnovers, and that starts up front!
 
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JayGunna said:
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Losing Irwin hurt us a little bit, because he could have played LB in 2010. But again, concern is up front on both sides of the ball. I personally think you are right about us needing 1-2 linebackers, for depth if nothing else, but if they aren't there, they aren't there, and you get the front 4 as strong as you possibly can. I'll get a lot of hate for this next statement, but guys like Brian Urlacher, Joey Porter, and Ray Lewis would not make as many plays with out a solid front four taking out the o-line so they can headhunt.
 
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I'm optimistic about our LB's basically because everyone starting in the bowl game, except Rico, was with the third team in spring and fall practices. Our LB play was excellent early in the season until the injury bug hit.
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Bottom line is that next year is not going to be a fun year win/loss wise for Tennessee. We just do not have the horses.
 
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In my opinion I think we will be all right at LB also,I think askew and king will be very good,one or both could possibly start next year.But don't count out thompson and frazier.Reveiz will probably be in the middle spot.Plus I think we sign christian jones,and I was very impressed with taylor in the UA game,definatly played like a 4 or 5 star.All the recruiting services have him at a 3 star.I don't get that,maybe they will bump him up since he got the MVP for the white team.I think we need the most of the remaining signee's to be OL,hopefully chaz green,torrian wilson,john cullen,damien robinson.Throw in christian jones,demetrius wright,and either ahmad dixon or detriech riley and I think we have a very solid class!
 
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Volfromfal56 i agree most of the guys on hear learn football on xbox & are the guys that did not play football because mommie would not let them play she was afraid they hurt some one
 
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ttoldlyvol said:
Volfromfal56 i agree most of the guys on hear learn football on xbox & are the guys that did not play football because mommie would not let them play she was afraid they hurt some one
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I'm kind of starting to think that myself. Welcome to the board!
 
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volfromfla56 said:
Here's why:

Who's coming back:

34 Herman Lathers- Jury still out, but coaches are high on him, again young and still learning!
56 Nick Reveiz---had all american #'s till his injury, and is the leader of this team with Eric Berry gone. He's like a 230lb Rudy!
42 LaMarcus Thompson---- another one of those, not fair injuries that really cost us down the stretch!

New comers:
Micheal Taylor-- Call him small if you like, but if you watched the UA game yesterday you know he's going to be a great player here!
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You left out the most important reason in my mind, Monty Kiffin. I'm not worried about the defense as long as he's there. I know you went through all the returning players, but he's the difference on defense.
 
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