I'm confused by some Vol fans' loyalties

#28
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butchna said:
I believe that if you hire a coach to build a strong program,you support him or her with positivity and gusto until he or she proves they don't warrant said support. This method doesn't require mute and blind loyalty but DOES require that you don't shoot em in the hamstring with a sniper rifle just to cover yourself emotionally on the off chance they don't meet your expectations...works...give it a whirl. :yahoo:
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Well said, i agree.
 
#29
#29
This thread is pointless unless...... there are posters that stopped cheering on UT and followed Dooley to the Cowboys.....
People have differing opinions on the ability of each individual coach to raise the program.
Those supporting any coach as "the guy", are doing so because they believe he is best for the university.
I am not even a sunshine pumper but the "just misguided loyalties." remark was a bit much.
 
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Vol-cano said:
If I have a degree from UT that is hanging on my wall, and my wife has a degree from UT hanging right next to it, we're not Vols For Life?

Seems strange. I didn't think those things expired...
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Agreed. I'm looking at 4 diplomas on our office wall, split evenly between my wife and I. I certainly think that qualifies. No expiration date to be found...
 
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vollygirl said:
He might have shortened it to initials, but players were being a Volunteer for Life in the Tennessee football family long before Dooley got there.

Does that help any?
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It does. I'll stop cringing when I hear it. Thanks for putting some sunshine on my day!
 
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#39
Is he on the same pedestal as Berry, Majors, Manning, Haynesworth, and dare I say...Fulmer?
 
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if Vol For Life means dedicating an enormous amount of your life to Tennessee outside of classwork while still being a student, then my 4 years in the Pride sure as hell considers me a VFL
 
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TacomaJPP said:
What does it mean to be a loyal college football fan. Better yet, what is a VFL? What exactly is a VFL loyal to?

Is a VFL loyal to the university, the athletic director, the players, the coach, the program?

Everyone will have their own definition and opinion. That's fine. What confuses me is how some fans seem to put their loyalty to a coach, rather than the program. Coaches come and go. Coaches get paid. Being a coach is a job. Coaches can be motivated by many factors and swayed by many other factors. Coaches are men and can disappoint.

I've watched "VFLs" vehemently defend some of our recent coaches (Fulmer in the end, Dooley until the end, CBJ getting a raise). Do I think they have ill intentions? No. Maybe just misguided loyalties.

I want to see the program succeeded. That means young men succeed and grow. That means coaches succeed and grow. Some players won't, neither will some coaches. As fans we should support them, but our loyalty should belong to the long-term health of the program. It will make us better fans and help us make decisions that are steeped in logic and strategy and less in emotion and reaction.

As a disclaimer, I like CBJ and think he's got us on the right track, I just get really confused by people putting coaches (and not just giving CBJ a raise for instance) ahead of the program.

Flame away.
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I would flame you if I spoke gibberish. This will rank up there as the dumbest post of the week, assuming that the fan can work a crossword puzzle. Just say I don't like CBJ, he doesn't deserve a raise. At least you may be wrong but us fans could understand your point of view.
 
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I respectfully disagree that VFL refers to athletes only. I will admit they constitute the reason we are having this discussion. Let's face it, the athletic program is a huge rallying point that binds us together.

But for me, VFL means lifelong, proud support of the university and not to any one program or individual. People come and go but UT has been around since 1794. Everyone cannot be an athlete. There are other major contributions that people make to the university other being an athlete -- being a member of the POTSB (hats off to all of you), being an alumnus, sending your children to UT (I've had two graduates in the last three years), professor or researcher, whatever form it might take. In our own ways, the positive contributions that we make to our communities represents UT in a similar but not so visible way as the athletes. Having said that, the VFL program for the athletes that recognizes their contributions, present and past, to the Volunteer family and continues to assist them, as some may need, to come back and get their degree is an outstanding idea.
 
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#50
All I know is i have been a Vol fan for over 35 years thru good and bad years good and bad times. And will always be a Vol!
 
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