I'll tell you how were not going to beat Ole Miss

#77
#77
therickbol said:
And had the best running game we have had in 10 years (with very average RB's). That is pretty good evidence that the problem is not the plays being called but rather the execution of those plays.
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So what different plays were run last year that are being run this year?
 
#79
#79
CountVolcula said:
So what different plays were run last year that are being run this year?
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They are the same plays. That was the point. Same plays. Different personnel. Different execution. Last season we ran a play and it ended up in a 5 yard carry because the OL/TE/WR/RB all executed the play properly. This season we run the same play and either the OL or TE or WR or RB does not execute it well and it ends up being a 1 yard gain. Then fans scream. Terrible play call!!!!
 
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I_Bleed_Orange77 said:
I'm really failing to see the point you're trying to make. Other than to bash the coaching staff like you do every day in every thread.
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Play calling was the same last year

People think we are some how going to "open it up" with a more experienced line

Didn't happen last year

I think the excuse is "going vanilla to prevent other teams from seeing the whole playbook"
 
#83
#83
I'm almost 100% confident that we will see a botched handoff between Worley and the new RB's, or a Worley sack/fumble. Either way the only way to have a chance is to not turn the ball over at all. So needless to say, I'm not expecting a win.

Positive note: Due to not expecting a win, I will not be all butt hurt for the next week like most others here.
 
#85
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CountVolcula said:
Play calling was the same last year

People think we are some how going to "open it up" with a more experienced line

Didn't happen last year

I think the excuse is "going vanilla to prevent other teams from seeing the whole playbook"
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The only thing I'd agree on is that the running plays are garbage. I hate those slow developing hand offs. But when worley only has 1.5 seconds in the pocket it's hard to have any sort of passing game. That's not on the coaches, that's our o lineman getting beat on almost every play. They just aren't sec tough yet imo
 
#86
#86
Honestly we are wasting downs by continuing to run up the middle. Who cares if they know we are going to pass it? Teams know we are passing in our 2 minute drill and we have seemed to have success with that. Very tired of starting 2nd and 10 every time we touch the ball.
 
#87
#87
anthorain said:
Can't disagree on this one.

Bajakian's running game is the definition of insanity.
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Do what? The HB dive out of a spread formation doesnt work even when its run 1/2 the time? I am a CBJ fan, so I can only hope that a more athletic QB will be in our future and all of this will change, but for now, I agree. :good!:
 
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I_Bleed_Orange77 said:
The only thing I'd agree on is that the running plays are garbage. I hate those slow developing hand offs. But when worley only has 1.5 seconds in the pocket it's hard to have any sort of passing game. That's not on the coaches, that's our o lineman getting beat on almost every play. They just aren't sec tough yet imo
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Clearly we have to use the running game to set up our sacks...
 
#90
#90
I'll tell you how. I watched a replay of TN /Utah ST. last night and we actually had offensive lineman getting pancaked backwards allowing sacks. No names but they sure were not freshmen.
 
#91
#91
Agree that we should not be going uptempo on offense. We're not good enough to run uptempo and will only take rest time away from the defense. We're also a big underdog, so milking the clock is in our interest.
 
#92
#92
themoodystwo said:
By running it up the middle on first down almost everytime.....Bajakian's gotta get creative somehow like disguising our players in referee outfits or something. Gotta be like a ninja and be sneaky :ninja: Go for broke or something like that.....just saying.
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It is time to go asymmetrical - Start game with on-sides kick, use fake punt in our territory, double reverse pass, etc. We have NO chance to outmuscle these guys. What do we have to lose?
 
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#93
Vol Revolver said:
The running back has to use his vision on these plays instead of putting his head down and running into the back of the Olinmen. There is usually always a cutback lane or an opportunity the bounce outside. I guess it's easy to pick out holes on my 55' flat screen:ermm:
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Agree! Lol
 
#96
#96
Milking the clock is predicated on being able to run the ball consistently. Which at this moment we can not do effectively.
 
#97
#97
themoodystwo said:
By running it up the middle on first down almost everytime.....Bajakian's gotta get creative somehow like disguising our players in referee outfits or something. Gotta be like a ninja and be sneaky :ninja: Go for broke or something like that.....just saying.
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Interior of the oline is at least serviceable not good but serviceable and Hurd's been able to pick up 2-4 yards at a go. THAT is why we're running it up the middle. Hurd also has a lot of YAC in him and once the play is really going the line can just start pushing forward once he's there and move the pile (they've done it before). Contrast that to our edges which are godawful.

I don't like seeing the Johnny Majors Special (aka run it up the middle and then run it up the middle some more) on first down all the time and think that need to be changed but that's why we do it.

I'd like to see us get creative but our line is so bad I'm not sure what could be done. Hell, our best help in terms of extra blocking on the line is a true freshman TE who isn't as strong as he will be in the future and another true freshman in Jalen Hurd who can't really block for himself on running plays. He's good but not that good.
 
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#98
orange parmejohn said:
I would like to see the offense milk the clock, as opposed to the up tempo. We are going to have plenty of 3 and outs. We need to kill every second possible.
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I totally agree. Historically, underdog teams that have won even when they are outgunned have kept it a low scoring, time consuming affair.
 
#99
#99
I don't care how good your oline is!! If the defense knows what is coming! It's the same 5 plays and the same gameplan week after week!
 
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#100
#100
therickbol said:
And had the best running game we have had in 10 years (with very average RB's). That is pretty good evidence that the problem is not the plays being called but rather the execution of those plays.
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I keep reading on here about how awesome our running game was last year and it kind of confuses me, because from memory, I don't really recall that many great offensive performances.

So, I went back and looked a little closer at the numbers.

True, overall, we did have a better yards per carry average over the course of the season than we've had for many years before that. Of course, some of that were big running games against the cupcakes. So, I decided to look at just the SEC games.

In terms of just SEC games, we averaged 4.34 yards per carry in 2013. That's pretty good. But the Dooley-coached team in 2012 did a little better, averaging 4.39 yards per carry. Kiffin's lone season in 2009, where we started 2 walk-ons on the line (iirc), averaged 4.30 yards per carry in SEC games.

In terms of touchdowns, we scored 8 rushing touchdowns in SEC play in 2013. In 2012, that number was 10. In Dooley's first season, 2010, we also scored 8 rushing touchdowns in SEC play. In Kiffin's 2009 season, we scored 10 in SEC play. In Fulmer's last season, 2008, the number was 9.

So, by those numbers, it looks like 2013 was a decent rushing year, but nothing that really stands out from recent history, at least when judged against conference competition.
 
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