If Your Phil Do You Go Outside The UT Tree

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I prefer going outside the tree of UT coaches for new ideas and a new(er) scheme. My opinion is the scheme we currently have used the last two decades is good when you have GREAT players and a SUPER QB which your not going to have year in and out.

I believe Cut got the most out of Ainge, Foster, Briscoe, Rogers, Cottam, etc that he could. Those guys don't stack up to Manning, Shuler, Nash, Kent, Stalworth, Witten what we won with in the past.

Go outside the UT tree so we can use a modern day better to fit our personel scheme, something that allows lesser talented guys a chance (in-case we don't get any better players over there).

Missouri, Oregon, etc, those schools don't always get the top notch recruit but they put them in a scheme that gets the most out of their ability. There scheme's help them alot...
 
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If I am Phil then yes I go outside, but since I am not Phil he will stay within.
 
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I think he stays with somebody he knows. It's his baby really, so he won't trust it to someone new.
 
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I won't hold my breath. It would be pleasently surprising for CF to check out some OC's from some other schools, Texas Tech, Tulsa, some guys that are leading the country in offense without a lot of talent. I don't have a problem with Kippy, Walt, etc...I just wonder if there's a guy out there who gets the players excited about playing ball...kinda like the Bruce Pearl hire.
 
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Im a little Gun Shy from Tulsa. The OC at U of L this year was at Tulsa lighting it up. Still did well with passing attack this year but U of L's running game was pitiful to nonexistant.

I want him to go outside of the tree. Bring in someone exciting. Someone that jerks the collars and gets there attention. Cut did it to some extent but they need to take it even further.
 
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I checked out some stats at www.ncaa.net (I think) today, it was interesting to look at the passing stats. There wasn't an SEC team in the top 10.
 
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it's a LOT easier to call plays when you've got nothing to lose at Missouri or Kansas, than when you're playing for "all the marbles" in a high profile job. That's the thing about OCs that nobody will address. Yes, OCs in jobs where they have "nothing to lose" are more aggressive play-callers because they have something to prove, and if they lose -- that's what they were SUPPOSED to do.

OCs in places like TN (with more tradition) are certainly a more conservative group across the board.

Even if we hire some "new" guy in here, he might be risky and successful for 2 years, then finally he will start "playing the odds" because he realizes that playing the odds is the long-term answer. My point: You can't be aggressive forever and be successful. That's why you don't see any long-term head coaches that are aggressive. The trick is to get a new offensive mind in there every 3-5 years, while keeping the head coach as a figure head -- in order to maintain legitimacy.

Example: Michigan might be great in the short term, but in 6 years, they're going to be Carr all over again.
 
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Well, I agree that after a few years your conference rivals will have figured out a way to stop ya, on paper at least. Let me ask, how long do ya give Chavis to figure out how to stop Urban/Tebow? I just want some energy. Playing to win as opposed to playing not to lose. If our backs/receivers can't turn a 3 yrd pass into a 70 yd. gain, well you know. The Denver Broncos stretch the field, they have mastered zone blocking. So much so, that you can plug any back into the system and end up having a pro bowl year. OR there's June Jones, who somehow finds QB's no one else wants, get's them producing early and keeps them around. Are they definite Pro prospects? No, but how many has UT produced? Bottom line, some new blood to energize the players and for gods' sake the fans.
 
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I'd go outside the UT family. Too much inbreeding as it is. There are hundreds(if not thousands) of great coaches in the US. I don't see how we benefit by instantly eliminating 99.9% of them just because they don't have ties to Tennessee.
 
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vol66 said:
Well, I agree that after a few years your conference rivals will have figured out a way to stop ya, on paper at least. Let me ask, how long do ya give Chavis to figure out how to stop Urban/Tebow? I just want some energy. Playing to win as opposed to playing not to lose. If our backs/receivers can't turn a 3 yrd pass into a 70 yd. gain, well you know. The Denver Broncos stretch the field, they have mastered zone blocking. So much so, that you can plug any back into the system and end up having a pro bowl year. OR there's June Jones, who somehow finds QB's no one else wants, get's them producing early and keeps them around. Are they definite Pro prospects? No, but how many has UT produced? Bottom line, some new blood to energize the players and for gods' sake the fans.
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Hey 66, If memory serves correct, we have disagreed on TT, but this is a GREAT post
 
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vol66 said:
The Denver Broncos stretch the field, they have mastered zone blocking. So much so, that you can plug any back into the system and end up having a pro bowl year. OR there's June Jones, who somehow finds QB's no one else wants, get's them producing early and keeps them around. Are they definite Pro prospects? No, but how many has UT produced? Bottom line, some new blood to energize the players and for gods' sake the fans.
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So now we are to model ourselves after a 6-8 Bronco team or a WAC team that went undefeated vs perhaps the worst schedule in I-A football? Great, being a Vol fan should be real fun if that happens.
 
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ilovemediocrity said:
I prefer going outside the tree of UT coaches for new ideas and a new(er) scheme. My opinion is the scheme we currently have used the last two decades is good when you have GREAT players and a SUPER QB which your not going to have year in and out.

I believe Cut got the most out of Ainge, Foster, Briscoe, Rogers, Cottam, etc that he could. Those guys don't stack up to Manning, Shuler, Nash, Kent, Stalworth, Witten what we won with in the past.

Go outside the UT tree so we can use a modern day better to fit our personel scheme, something that allows lesser talented guys a chance (in-case we don't get any better players over there).

Missouri, Oregon, etc, those schools don't always get the top notch recruit but they put them in a scheme that gets the most out of their ability. There scheme's help them alot...
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This is Fulmer we are talking about here. When has he ever gone outside the UT family tree?? Fulmer may be alot of things, but I don't know anyone who would call him a risk taker.
 
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