"If you don't vote, you have no right to complain..."

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Everyone has the right to complain, unfortunately if they are waiting for the POTUS to fix their problems they will be complaining for a LONG TIME!!
 
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I agree to a point. Give me someone WORTH voting for and I'll gladly do it. Last few elections it's been the lesser of evils rather than the best person for the job.
 
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A lot of people seem to be disappointed with Obama and McCain. Who would be your choice to run if you could pick a President? I'll go ahead and put OE down for Bloomberg. :)
 
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Of all the guys that were candidates at the beginning, I liked Huckabee and Romney. But honestly, gimme a Ted Nugent/Jesse Ventura ticket.
 
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superdave1984 said:
Of all the guys that were candidates at the beginning, I liked Huckabee and Romney. But honestly, gimme a Ted Nugent/Jesse Ventura ticket.
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Speaking of Huckabee, I am still curious about his tax plan. It seems like the only way to force illegals to pay taxes too by placing it on sales tax. I'm I wrong about this, it might be a good thing. Chuck Norris seemed to think so.
 
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superdave1984 said:
Of all the guys that were candidates at the beginning, I liked Huckabee and Romney. But honestly, gimme a Ted Nugent/Jesse Ventura ticket.
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it'll never work. Ventura is a 9-11 truther.

I liked Huckabee because he favored the Fair Tax, I didn't like some of the stunts he pulled as governor of Arkansas.

I like Romney as well, primarily because he understands how business and capitalism work.
 
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MG1968 said:
it'll never work. Ventura is a 9-11 truther.

I liked Huckabee because he favored the Fair Tax, I didn't like some of the stunts he pulled as governor of Arkansas.

I like Romney as well, primarily because he understands how business and capitalism work.
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I don't like the stunts Huckabee pulled to get McCain the nomination.
 
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This is America where even illegals aliens have rights , and they will be complaining about plenty .

Even the guys who refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils will still complain ! When you have the lesser of two evils , then that means one isn't as bad as the other ( so why not vote for him or an independent ) . I honestly used to say I wouldn't vote for the lesser of two evils and it was because at that point , I didn't care enough to figure out which one was more projecting my views and then vote for him .


Be as informed as you can and VOTE !
 
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volinbham said:
Oddly enough, Ventura has as much or more relevant experience as Obama
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Further proof that experience can be overrated. Kerry Collins has more experience than Peyton Manning. Theo Epstein didn't have a lot of experience before helping the Red Sox win the series. Before someone says comparing sports to running the country is different, I agree, but Obama isn't some guy that went to community college and decided to run for POTUS after a few semesters.
 
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615 Vol said:
Further proof that experience can be overrated. Kerry Collins has more experience than Peyton Manning. Theo Epstein didn't have a lot of experience before helping the Red Sox win the series. Before someone says comparing sports to running the country is different, I agree, but Obama isn't some guy that went to community college and decided to run for POTUS after a few semesters.
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And neither was Bush! Both had little experience.
 
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KB5252 said:
And neither was Bush! Both had little experience.
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And that does remind me, if experience is so important than why didn't everyone vote for Gore instead of Bush in 2000? Now the roles are reversed and the Dem has lesser experience so now it's an issue?
 
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615 Vol said:
And that does remind me, if experience is so important than why didn't everyone vote for Gore instead of Bush in 2000? Now the roles are reversed and the Dem has lesser experience so now it's an issue?
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because Bush had been the Chief Exec in TX for 2 terms, Gore had been nothing but a shrill second fiddle.
 
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615 Vol said:
And that does remind me, if experience is so important than why didn't everyone vote for Gore instead of Bush in 2000? Now the roles are reversed and the Dem has lesser experience so now it's an issue?
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From all accounts (not to mention polling) Bush's presidency has not been a successful one. Should we not learn from mistakes made? Since the Dems are so upset that Bush has failed (look back and see that his inexperience was an issue in the election) why would they want to turn right around and support another inexperienced candidate? Maybe Bush's lack of experience should have been a bigger factor.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
because Bush had been the Chief Exec in TX for 2 terms, Gore had been nothing but a shrill second fiddle.
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I know you don't like Gore, fine, but you can't convince anyone that Bush had more experience than Gore in 2000. In fact, Bush played the whole, he's out of touch with voters, career Washington politician card against Gore. Tennessee Republicans were quick to point out that Gore was never in Tennessee. Gore wasn't a second fiddle as a U.S. Senator and if being VP is a lesser role than Governor than it's news to me.
 
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KB5252 said:
From all accounts (not to mention polling) Bush's presidency has not been a successful one. Should we not learn from mistakes made? Since the Dems are so upset that Bush has failed (look back and see that his inexperience was an issue in the election) why would they want to turn right around and support another inexperienced candidate? Maybe Bush's lack of experience should have been a bigger factor.
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I agree it hasn't been successful but Obama and Bush are complete opposites. I have a hard time finding anything from the Bush Admin. to compare with an Obama Admin.
 
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615 Vol said:
I agree it hasn't been successful but Obama and Bush are complete opposites. I have a hard time finding anything from the Bush Admin. to compare with an Obama Admin.
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True, Bush needed to focus more on change and hope. He will forever be blamed for not supplying enough of these.
 
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615 Vol said:
I know you don't like Gore, fine, but you can't convince anyone that Bush had more experience than Gore in 2000. In fact, Bush played the whole, he's out of touch with voters, career Washington politician card against Gore. Tennessee Republicans were quick to point out that Gore was never in Tennessee. Gore wasn't a second fiddle as a U.S. Senator and if being VP is a lesser role than Governor than it's news to me.
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I don't like Gore any more than I like Bush.

What was Gore's experience? He was a senator for the same reason Bush was a governor, daddy's coattails. He went from centrist democrat to shrill liberal when the tides made it more palatable and he was the VP. Prior to Cheney, who was the last VP that you recall wielding any power whatsoever?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I don't like Gore any more than I like Bush.

What was Gore's experience? He was a senator for the same reason Bush was a governor, daddy's coattails. He went from centrist democrat to shrill liberal when the tides made it more palatable and he was the VP. Prior to Cheney, who was the last VP that you recall wielding any power whatsoever?
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Hey, Gore invinted the Internet. :)

I agree with all that, Gore has shifted far to the left from what he was. I agree that he got to where he was because of his dad also. I was just bringing up that experience isn't always an indicator of who should get the job. I brought up Gore because many people that have a problem with Obama's lack of experience didn't feel the same way when given the option between W. and Gore.
 
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