If you don’t think NCAA has an agenda against Tennessee…

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Tman44 said:
The SEC and Big 10 teaming up is very bad news for the NCAA.
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It is very interesting timing for sure. If I am the NCAA, I'm looking for a way to get out of this as gracefully as possible while still holding on to some power, even if it is symbolic. That's their best case scenario now. If they continue forward and don't back down, they will not have any say in college football in two years.

And I suspect that these conferences will also want to take control of other sports, like basketball. If the P5 basketball teams start their own tournament, there goes the NCAAs biggest cash cow.
 
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The members of the SEC and the Big10 are members of the NCAA. It's a member organization. It's easy for aggrieved
fans--"how dare they investigate us!"-- to bash the NCAA, but somebody has to govern college athletics---has to set guidelines, boundaries, rules---and enforce them. It's become an extremely difficult task. Who do you think should govern college athletics--the Wise Fans of Tennesee? Please.

If the SEC and Big10 and the rest of the majors were wise, they'd endorse and comply with the NCAA's ban on using NIL deals as a recruiting bribes. It's a sucker's game. Nobody can win at it. Nobody has an advantage. Every major program has piles of crazy boosters and piles of money from them to throw around. You think we're going to consistently outbid Texas and A&M and Georgia, Bama and 35 other major with money for top prospects? Don't be silly.

Sure, we can land a couple if we go wld and make some ridiculous offers to high-school prospects--but we'll lose more bidding contests than we win, for sure. And this is true for everybody. We're not going to use NIL deals to build a better roster than Georgia, Florida or Bama. You think they and their fans would let that happen? They're as crazy or crazier than we are. You think Ohio State will? Nobody has more money than the Texas schools--one of which just opted to spend $76 million to fire a coach--no sweat--one of the biggest absurdities in the history of college football. So what's the point? NIL in recruiting is not going to change anything--and at the end of the day it just amounts to an unseemly bidding/bribery contest by desperate, hyper-competitive fans. And meantime it's corrupting young prospects--turning them into cynical mercenaries, and half of them will transfer after a year or two, anyway---as they've been doing. So, again: What's the point?
 
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Godfatha said:
It is very interesting timing for sure. If I am the NCAA, I'm looking for a way to get out of this as gracefully as possible while still holding on to some power, even if it is symbolic. That's their best case scenario now. If they continue forward and don't back down, they will not have any say in college football in two years.

And I suspect that these conferences will also want to take control of other sports, like basketball. If the P5 basketball teams start their own tournament, there goes the NCAAs biggest cash cow.
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The thankful demise of the NCAA was written in stone ever since the SCOTUS heard the Alston case.
 
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The members of the SEC and the Big10 are members of the NCAA. It's a member organization. It's easy for aggrieved
fans--"how dare they investigate us!"-- to bash the NCAA, but somebody has to govern college athletics---has to set guidelines, boundaries, rules---and enforce them. It's become an extremely difficult task. Who do you think should govern college athletics--the Wise Fans of Tennesee? Please.

If the SEC and Big10 and the rest of the majors were wise, they'd endorse and comply with the NCAA's ban on using NIL deals as a recruiting bribes. It's a sucker's game. Nobody can win at it. Nobody has an advantage. Every major program has piles of crazy boosters and piles of money from them to throw around. You think we're going to consistently outbid Texas and A&M and Georgia, Bama and 35 other major with money for top prospects? Don't be silly.

Sure, we can land a couple if we go wld and make some ridiculous offers to high-school prospects--but we'll lose more bidding contests than we win, for sure. And this is true for everybody. We're not going to use NIL deals to build a better roster than Georgia, Florida or Bama. You think they and their fans would let that happen? They're as crazy or crazier than we are. You think Ohio State will? Nobody has more money than the Texas schools--one of which just opted to spend $76 million to fire a coach--no sweat--one of the biggest absurdities in the history of college football. So what's the point? NIL in recruiting is not going to change anything--and at the end of the day it just amounts to an unseemly bidding/bribery contest by desperate, hyper-competitive fans. And meantime it's corrupting young prospects--turning them into cynical mercenaries, and half of them will transfer after a year or two, anyway---as they've been doing. So, again: What's the point?
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Yeah, because institutions colluding to deny citizens the right to understand compensation prior to signing a contract will go over well in the court.
 
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imavolfan said:
Interesting timing to “leak” this article as signing day approaches
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I was thinking the same thing. Release this just as recruits are making their decision. I think they poked the bear when they should have left the bear alone. Now they're probably gonna get bit.
 
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turbovol said:
The members of the SEC and the Big10 are members of the NCAA. It's a member organization. It's easy for aggrieved
fans--"how dare they investigate us!"-- to bash the NCAA, but somebody has to govern college athletics---has to set guidelines, boundaries, rules---and enforce them. It's become an extremely difficult task. Who do you think should govern college athletics--the Wise Fans of Tennesee? Please.

If the SEC and Big10 and the rest of the majors were wise, they'd endorse and comply with the NCAA's ban on using NIL deals as a recruiting bribes. It's a sucker's game. Nobody can win at it. Nobody has an advantage. Every major program has piles of crazy boosters and piles of money from them to throw around. You think we're going to consistently outbid Texas and A&M and Georgia, Bama and 35 other major with money for top prospects? Don't be silly.

Sure, we can land a couple if we go wld and make some ridiculous offers to high-school prospects--but we'll lose more bidding contests than we win, for sure. And this is true for everybody. We're not going to use NIL deals to build a better roster than Georgia, Florida or Bama. You think they and their fans would let that happen? They're as crazy or crazier than we are. You think Ohio State will? Nobody has more money than the Texas schools--one of which just opted to spend $76 million to fire a coach--no sweat--one of the biggest absurdities in the history of college football. So what's the point? NIL in recruiting is not going to change anything--and at the end of the day it just amounts to an unseemly bidding/bribery contest by desperate, hyper-competitive fans. And meantime it's corrupting young prospects--turning them into cynical mercenaries, and half of them will transfer after a year or two, anyway---as they've been doing. So, again: What's the point?
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Do you think all programs you mentioned have not been using NIL as recruiting bribes?
 
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These guys are clowns. The best thing for EVERYONE (that includes the other schools, as well as the ncaa), is for the ncaa to step up with:

1. NIL rules and guidelines that they should have done 3 years ago
2. Set a date of March 1 as an amnesty deadline (comply now, go forth and sin no more)
3. Enforce all rules blindly (no more Kansas, UNC getting a free pass for murder, while executing Missouri for littering).

Everyone keeps making money. Everyone saves face.
 
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