If we played Iowa's schedule

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I would feel more confident if our weakest link wasn't so weak. Hoping the 15 practices pays some dividend.
 
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General Jack said:
I would feel more confident if our weakest link wasn't so weak. Hoping the 15 practices pays some dividend.
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Think anyone would notice if we secretly replaced our Tackles with Tiny Richardson and Jawuan James? They kind of resemble Kerbyson and Gilliam. lol
 
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Hawkeyes1982 said:
Here is how I look at it.. Month to prepare> 15 or so extra practices for all involved> any given Saturday. Cheers fellas!
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I hope you're right as on any given Saturday the team with the better talent average wins about 70% of the time.
 
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I guess we will find out on jan 2. It's all about the way each teams strengths match up to the other teams weaknesses. I've seen some great hs teams lose in the first round of the state playoffs that beat our team, then we make it to the semifinals beating the team that beat them. Transitive properties hardly ever work in predicting football games. I tried using some of that in my bowl pick sheet. It's garbage now.
 
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tennesseeduke said:
daj2576 pretty much covered it!

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Thanks.

I readily admit that the probabilities, however much in UT's favor, still allow for a substantial chance of an Iowa win. Here is to hoping the football god's smile on the big orange for one more game this season.

For those that didn't click the link, here is a graphic that shows the difference in the strength of the talent of the opponents faced by Iowa and UT.

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truevol16 said:
Yeah and I think that argument is so funny.... I have family up in Ohio and they are all big10 homers and that's all they ever say about the sec is that I'd like to see them come play in this cold weather. And my argument back is then why won't Ohio St. and the other big10 teams schedule some SEC teams in a home and home. The weather goes both ways, you are correct.
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The SEC teams generally wont come up north for the return trip. Its been tried
 
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Nebraska fans bragged for a year how they would come in and dominate the big, slow big 10.

It didnt and wont happen.

The B1G has to be built in a way that no other conference does. Combine that with some inherent disadvantages based on geography, academic standards, more broad athletic department focus and it ham strings these northern schools whn compared to conferences with southern schools.
 
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Dave1967 said:
Well what would Iowa's record have been if they had played Tennessee's schedule?
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Talent averages predict 70% of games. Looking at the chart I provided above, and adjusting for net trend (actual performance) against talent, indicates that Iowa likely only wins 2 games in UTs schedule and UT likely wins 10 with theirs.

To further drive this point consider that UT played 7 teams that are more talented than any team Iowa faced (9 teams more talented than Iowa), and UT beat 3 teams more talented than the Hawkeyes. Iowa, insofar as talent averages, would fall below Vanderbilt and Kentucky in the SEC.
 
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Dave1967 said:
Well what would Iowa's record have been if they had played Tennessee's schedule?
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They would have won 4 maybe 5 with a upset victory, no way they derail this BIG ORANGE FREIGHT TRAIN that is coming right at them, they wont know what hit them till it is over, we are a machine in the making.:clapping:
 
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VickVega said:
Nebraska fans bragged for a year how they would come in and dominate the big, slow big 10.

It didnt and wont happen.

The B1G has to be built in a way that no other conference does. Combine that with some inherent disadvantages based on geography, academic standards, more broad athletic department focus and it ham strings these northern schools whn compared to conferences with southern schools.
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We are not Nebraska we are TENNESSEEE, enough said they have no chance at all with this Southern team.
 
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If Iowa played our schedule

vs
Utah State: Iowa wins a good game
1-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 6
vs
Arkansas State: Iowa wins again
2-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 13
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#4 Oklahoma: Iowa destroyed
2-1 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 27
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#12 Georgia: Iowa destroyed
2-2 (0-1)
Sat, Oct 4
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Florida: Iowa loses
2-3 (0-2)
Sat, Oct 11
vs
Chattanooga: Iowa wins
3-3 (0-2)
Sat, Oct 18
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#3 Ole Miss: Iowa loss
3-4 (0-3)
Sat, Oct 25
vs
#4 Alabama: Iowa loss
3-5 (0-4)
Sat, Nov 1
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South Carolina: Iowa loss
3-6 0-5)
Sat, Nov 15
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Kentucky: Iowa loss
3-7 (0-6)
Sat, Nov 22
vs
#20 Missouri: Iowa loss
3-8 (0-7)
Sat, Nov 29
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Vanderbilt: Iowa wins
4-8 (1-7)
 
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daj2576 said:
It is interesting that you point out the Indiana > Mizzou > UT transitive property conundrum, but fail to point out that a two win Iowa State team > Iowa.

Here is how I look at it, through the lens of talent averages:

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More here: MyBloodIsOrange.com: TaxSlayer Bowl: A First Look
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I didn't mention the ISU loss because that is not what was being discussed. The discussion wasn't how Iowa performed on the season...which was up and down...with far too much down. The topic was how TN would fared with Iowa's schedule. The comment about Indiana beating Missou was not saying that Indiana is a better team than Missouri. It was just referencing that a team, on that schedule, that only managed 1 win in their conference was able to beat a team that won another conference. The point is, no matter how many games you think you should win, it doesn't always work out that way. As another poster said..."any given Saturday".
Also, using recruiting rankings by recruiting services is ok in a general sense; but, certainly does not prove which team is more talented in actuality. There are plenty of 5 stars that flop and 2 stars that are enjoying NFL careers. Just as a side note, I usually put more stock in the offers than the star rating. Every year you can find 2-3 star kids that have an offer list that is more impressive than many kids that much higher rated by these services.
The way Iowa performed this season, TN fans have reason to feel confident going into the game. Although, as an Iowa fan knowing what this team is capable of, when they play well, and knowing how Ferentz has done a good job of preparing for bowls in the past gives me reason to also be confident going into the game.
I am looking forward to a good game and enjoying some tailgating alongside some volunteer fans.
 
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Big_Palooka said:
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I didn't mention the ISU loss because that is not what was being discussed. The discussion wasn't how Iowa performed on the season...which was up and down...with far too much down. The topic was how TN would fared with Iowa's schedule. The comment about Indiana beating Missou was not saying that Indiana is a better team than Missouri. It was just referencing that a team, on that schedule, that only managed 1 win in their conference was able to beat a team that won another conference. The point is, no matter how many games you think you should win, it doesn't always work out that way. As another poster said..."any given Saturday".
Also, using recruiting rankings by recruiting services is ok in a general sense; but, certainly does not prove which team is more talented in actuality. There are plenty of 5 stars that flop and 2 stars that are enjoying NFL careers. Just as a side note, I usually put more stock in the offers than the star rating. Every year you can find 2-3 star kids that have an offer list that is more impressive than many kids that much higher rated by these services.
The way Iowa performed this season, TN fans have reason to feel confident going into the game. Although, as an Iowa fan knowing what this team is capable of, when they play well, and knowing how Ferentz has done a good job of preparing for bowls in the past gives me reason to also be confident going into the game.
I am looking forward to a good game and enjoying some tailgating alongside some volunteer fans.
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What I think, or what other fans think, doesn't really amount to much of anything. That is why I tend to rely on hard predictors for success. Recruiting, for all of its flaws, correlates to about 70% of wins and losses. On a seasonal evaluation, Iowa performed within one game of those predictions (91%), and UT performed within two games of those predictions (83%). The difference is the starting talent at UT and that of Iowa mixed with the relative talent of the competition. UT has the better talent and the far more difficult schedule. That is my point.
 
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The greatest thing about this type of speculation, is it will be settled!!! Regarding the weather/cold effecting both sides, true, however; acclimation has been accepted science for a long time. The total "effect" on a given team will be less, if that team is well acclimated to a given temp, and the reverse is true. The basic premise of this string is "if we played the Iowa schedule", but it does not include, under that same conditions. They are a big, well coached team. I'm predicting a very close game. It would be nice if we "...kill them", but I don't think so.:good!:
 
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VickVega said:
The SEC teams generally wont come up north for the return trip. Its been tried
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Ohio St cancelled their series with both UGA and UT...hard to come up north when you chicken out every time...

and UT has played at Notre Dame, Rutgers, Syracuse, Army, B.College so take your BS excuses somewhere else

there isnt that much difference in aug thru november weather in the Big Ten vs SEC except for the extremes (Minnesota and Florida I.E.)
 
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