If we played Iowa's schedule

[Hawkeyes1982]

Yeah and I think that argument is so funny.... I have family up in Ohio and they are all big10 homers and that's all they ever say about the sec is that I'd like to see them come play in this cold weather. And my argument back is then why won't Ohio St. and the other big10 teams schedule some SEC teams in a home and home. The weather goes both ways, you are correct.

It's really funny though. You take a south team to the midwest in November we'll see how it goes.. I've sat in games where it was below zero and froze my tail off. I went to Miami in 2002 for the OB and it was a different planet with the heat and humidity. The weather sure does work both ways.

As for scheduling SEC teams i'd love for that. However Iowa will never do it and I doubt they'd schedule it in the colder months either.

 

[maxxx]

Nice first post
You beat an 8-5 Florida team under zook... Which we beat that year
You beat a 9-2 depleted lsu team that didn't give a damn because ole st. Nick was leaving for the league
You beat a 7-5 South Carolina team, need I say more
You beat a 10-2 Missouri team that wasn't even in the sec that year so who knows what that record would have been.

And your two losses came to a 10-3 lsu team who had one bad loss to ole miss and two losses to teams ranked in the top 10 and one of those being #1 at the time.
Your other loss came to Florida and in that year they lost to the number 5,11,12 teams in the county all of which are sec teams also.

That record of 4-2 is trash

This thread is making me laugh and this post just about takes the cake.

As if Iowa played all of those games with undefeated powerhouse teams. The point was made, that he has a winning record against the SEC. BTW....This years UT squad is not a world beater.

The lack of football intelligence is mind numbing here. People just cant be this football crazy, yet so football stupid.

If you know ANYTHING about football, you would not be talking down on the Big 10 so much. Because they cant match the top tier of the SEC does not mean their league is weak. Last I checked, they are still pumping out NFL talent all over that league.

It becomes more apparent all the time that people have some sort of complex when it comes to the Big10. Get a grip people. There can be other well funded big time leagues than just the SEC. The SEC is the best football league going, but a league like the Big10 is still right there. As someone mentioned before, Indiana beat Mizzou, and they kind of sucked in the Big 10 this year.

As for the game....UT should win this game, but Iowa is always a tough physical game. Iowa has seen better running backs and running games than UT can throw at them. Dobbs has to be the difference maker. UT should win by 2 scores though. Both teams are middle of the road and worse than there norm, but UT has more playmakers in the passing game by a mile.

 

[Hawkeyes1982]

Nice post

 

[Big_Palooka]

This thread is making me laugh and this post just about takes the cake.

As if Iowa played all of those games with undefeated powerhouse teams. The point was made, that he has a winning record against the SEC. BTW....This years UT squad is not a world beater.

The lack of football intelligence is mind numbing here. People just cant be this football crazy, yet so football stupid.

If you know ANYTHING about football, you would not be talking down on the Big 10 so much. Because they cant match the top tier of the SEC does not mean their league is weak. Last I checked, they are still pumping out NFL talent all over that league.

It becomes more apparent all the time that people have some sort of complex when it comes to the Big10. Get a grip people. There can be other well funded big time leagues than just the SEC. The SEC is the best football league going, but a league like the Big10 is still right there. As someone mentioned before, Indiana beat Mizzou, and they kind of sucked in the Big 10 this year.

As for the game....UT should win this game, but Iowa is always a tough physical game. Iowa has seen better running backs and running games than UT can throw at them. Dobbs has to be the difference maker. UT should win by 2 scores though. Both teams are middle of the road and worse than there norm, but UT has more playmakers in the passing game by a mile.

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Maxx, I agree with most of what you wrote...except for the 2 scores part. They may very well win by 2+ scores; but, Iowa typically plays to their competition (or so it seems) and Ferentz has done a good job of having Iowa focused for bowl games. I think this is one that comes down to the wire.

 

[Other_Guy]

Couldn't beat Florida and had to have a miraculous comeback vs SC. Not to mention so depleted on offense to barely edge the worst Vandy team ever. 10-2 is a pretty big stetch.

 

[Other_Guy]

Nice first post
You beat an 8-5 Florida team under zook... Which we beat that year
You beat a 9-2 depleted lsu team that didn't give a damn because ole st. Nick was leaving for the league
You beat a 7-5 South Carolina team, need I say more
You beat a 10-2 Missouri team that wasn't even in the sec that year so who knows what that record would have been.

And your two losses came to a 10-3 lsu team who had one bad loss to ole miss and two losses to teams ranked in the top 10 and one of those being #1 at the time.
Your other loss came to Florida and in that year they lost to the number 5,11,12 teams in the county all of which are sec teams also.

That record of 4-2 is trash

Iowa shouldnt have a problem beating a 6-6 Vols squad then.

 

[YankeeVol]

It's not going to be an "easy win" IMO.

 

[pualsline]

Keep in mind you have to play half your games in weather where you can't feel your hands and there's a 20+ MPH wind to throw into. Maybe some snow or sleet.

It affects the gameplan/style of play a bit.

Don't both teams have to play in said weather, or does just Iowa?

 

[gunner]

8 wins.

At least 8 wins, maybe 10 even 12 isn't out of the question with that schedule.

 

[sechamp2012]

We beat Utah State they ended up 10 and 2 with a similar schedule to Iowa. So yeah believe we win 10 with Iowa or Utah States schedules.

 

[tennesseeduke]

Couldn't beat Florida and had to have a miraculous comeback vs SC. Not to mention so depleted on offense to barely edge the worst Vandy team ever. 10-2 is a pretty big stetch.

Florida wouldn't have a losing record with Iowas schedule either and Muschamp would still be their coach. The Gamecocks the same. The Big Ten plus however many teams they have now is slow and has never been able to play with southern teams!

:thud:

Tennesseeduke

 

[jortfreeTN]

Keep in mind you have to play half your games in weather where you can't feel your hands and there's a 20+ MPH wind to throw into. Maybe some snow or sleet.

It affects the gameplan/style of play a bit.

Game time temps this year...
73
71
60
72
75
55
70
40
38
30
53
28

Only 2 below freezing and only 4 you can even really call cold. Next excuse please.

 

[Boca Vol]

Florida wouldn't have a losing record with Iowas schedule either and Muschamp would still be their coach. The Gamecocks the same. The Big Ten plus however many teams they have now is slow and has never been able to play with southern teams!

:thud:

Tennesseeduke

Florida didn't have a losing record this season and Muschamp was fired. Not sure of your point.

 

[BrewHawk]

Game time temps this year...
73
71
60
72
75
55
70
40
38
30
53
28

Only 2 below freezing and only 4 you can even really call cold. Next excuse please.

Yep, it was an unusually warm season. Can't count on that every year though and have to build your team accordingly.

 

[BrewHawk]

Iowa shouldnt have a problem beating a 6-6 Vols squad then.

They might not. I'm still picking the Vols 24-19 and will be pleasantly surprised with an Iowa win.

Then again, Iowa has enough ability to come out and blow the doors off you guys as well. Small chance of that happening though.

 

[truevol16]

This thread is making me laugh and this post just about takes the cake.

As if Iowa played all of those games with undefeated powerhouse teams. The point was made, that he has a winning record against the SEC. BTW....This years UT squad is not a world beater.

The lack of football intelligence is mind numbing here. People just cant be this football crazy, yet so football stupid.

If you know ANYTHING about football, you would not be talking down on the Big 10 so much. Because they cant match the top tier of the SEC does not mean their league is weak. Last I checked, they are still pumping out NFL talent all over that league.

It becomes more apparent all the time that people have some sort of complex when it comes to the Big10. Get a grip people. There can be other well funded big time leagues than just the SEC. The SEC is the best football league going, but a league like the Big10 is still right there. As someone mentioned before, Indiana beat Mizzou, and they kind of sucked in the Big 10 this year.

As for the game....UT should win this game, but Iowa is always a tough physical game. Iowa has seen better running backs and running games than UT can throw at them. Dobbs has to be the difference maker. UT should win by 2 scores though. Both teams are middle of the road and worse than there norm, but UT has more playmakers in the passing game by a mile.

Their league is weak. Period. A well funded league means nothing about talented teams. Nfl talent comes from all over the nation, there was no argument about that.

 

[General Jack]

8-4 at best, we couldn't beat Florida for crying out loud and we didn't roll Dobbs out there until half way through the season.

No way we go 10-2 against that schedule. Have we forgotten about our o-line already?

I expect a tight game. Iowa will control the LOS so we will need a handful of big plays to keep it close or win.

 

[Titans4Vols]

Our wins came against Utah State, Arkansas State, Chattanooga, South Carolina, Kentucky and Vanderbilt.

We have no room to speak about schedules and who we might would beat. It took a miraculous comeback and overtime to beat South Carolina, Kentucky moved the ball down the field on us their first drive so who knows what happens if we don't injure their QB(yes I know he came back and played but he wasn't 100%), and if not for Vanderbilt out sucking us in that game they might have beat us.

I would say with confidence from their schedule that we beat UNI, Ball State, Iowa State and Purdue. That's 5 wins.

We'd stand a decent enough chance vs Indiana(I would call it a definite win but they beat Missouri so who knows) and Northwestern. That's 7.

The rest of the games are toss ups or against our favor.

Just because we're in the SEC doesn't exactly mean we're stock piled full of SEC talent that's going to run circles around these Big 10 teams. We're only 1 full class in to having a true SEC team for the first time since...2008? Considering Lane Kiffin's class pretty much did jack ****.

So no, not 10-2. Not 11-1. Try 7-5. We're hardly better, if any better at all, than Iowa.

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

Northern Iowa Panthers Won 31-23

Ball State Cardinals Won 17-13

Iowa State Cyclones Lost 20-17

Pittsburgh Panthers Won 24-20

Purdue Boilermakers Won 24-10

Indiana Hoosiers (HC)Won 45-29

Maryland Terrapins Lost 38-31

Northwestern Wildcats Won 48-7

Minnesota Golden Gophers Lost 51-14

Illinois Fighting Illini Won 30-14

Wisconsin Badgers Lost 26-24

Nebraska Cornhuskers Lost 37-34 (2OT)

I think we go 10-2 on that schedule. Lose to Wisconsin and Minnesota. They have a lot of 3 pt wins. We should kill them! JMHO

On the flip side I don't think they make a bowl game with our schedule. Again JMHO!

:loco:

Tennesseeduke

The way Wisconsin collapsed and Nebraska faltered against good competition, I'm not so sure we don't run the table with that schedule.

Big10 Championship would have been a challenge though with our injuries.

Only two-three teams that a healthy Team 118 sweats is OSU, MSU and possibly MINN.

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

It's not going to be an "easy win" IMO.

With a healthy team (North, Croom, Josh Smith, etc) and less attrition (AJ, Williams, Pickett, Scott, Helm, Henderson, etc), I think it would be a sound win for us ... 10-17 points. That's a lot of playmakers lost.

Now I think it will be closer to 7, maybe even a 3 point nail biter.

We will win it with solid defense, a few X-factors such as Evan Berry, TK2, and a few unsung heroes like Owen Williams, Mosely, Alex Ellis.

Fresh legs from Dobbs and Hurd will help as well.

 

[BrewHawk]

The way Wisconsin collapsed and Nebraska faltered against good competition, I'm not so sure we don't run the table with that schedule.

Big10 Championship would have been a challenge though with our injuries.

Only two-three teams that a healthy Team 118 sweats is OSU, MSU and possibly MINN.

This post is writing checks that your team can't cash.

 

[badkarma]

If birds were bears we'd all be dead...whatever

 

[finsmania19]

Wow. I never realized how weak their schedule was. There really is no reason to lose, but there was no reason to play Vandy that close either.

 

[daj2576]

You would have had Indiana on your schedule, who beat the mighty Missou Tigers.

SEC has hadd the upper hand on most Big Ten teams in recent history; but, not Iowa. Ferentz is (4-2) 3-2 against (current) SEC teams in bowls
Beat: Florida, LSU, S. Carolina, and Missouri (2010 - hence the 4-2 vs 3-2)
Lost to: Florida, LSU

It is interesting that you point out the Indiana > Mizzou > UT transitive property conundrum, but fail to point out that a two win Iowa State team > Iowa.

Here is how I look at it, through the lens of talent averages:

Most importantly, Iowa's best win came against a Pittsburgh team that recruits in the mid-40's and Tennessee's best win came against a South Carolina team that recruits in the top 20. Iowa's worst loss came against a dreadful Iowa State team, a team with talent in the 60's, and Tennessee's worst loss came against Missouri, a team just inside the top 40 most talented teams, and the SEC east champion. For those that believe that the SEC east is just a train-wreck based on it's performance this season, Jeff Sagarin says otherwise. Sagarin's numbers show that the SEC east is ranked third after the SEC West and PAC-12 South. If you feel like arguing that conclusion, that is between you and he.

If talent is viewed as the rungs on a ladder, Tennessee is substantially more talented than Iowa and this alone would heavily favor Tennessee. 3 of Tennessee's wins came against teams that have better talent than Iowa, where Iowa's best win was still about 30 rungs shy of the talent level that Tennessee has. The Vols worst loss came against a Missouri team that is about 7 rungs above the Hawkeye's best victory. Talent and ability would tell us that this game is likely just outside the Hawkeye's ability to win.

As with any football game, anything can happen, though probability simply favors Tennessee. Both Vanderbilt and Kentucky have similar talent to Iowa, and both were wins for Team 118. That is probably a favorable comparison in terms of expected performance as this could be anything between a grind it out game contested late into the final ticks (similar to Vanderbilt), or a run-away victory for the Vols (similar to Kentucky)

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[Hawkeyes1982]

Here is how I look at it.. Month to prepare> 15 or so extra practices for all involved> any given Saturday. Cheers fellas!