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Christian Lowe said:
If we lose to Kentucky or are one and done in conference tournament, it’s Arizona’s.
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I think it's BS if the SECT has any say in it at all. 2 years ago we won it and it didn't mean anything for seeding, and in 2008 it turned out if we had won the SECT we will would have ended with a #2 seed. So if it doesn't matter if you win, it shouldn't matter if you go one and done.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I think it's BS if the SECT has any say in it at all. 2 years ago we won it and it didn't mean anything for seeding, and in 2008 it turned out if we had won the SECT we will would have ended with a #2 seed. So if it doesn't matter if you win, it shouldn't matter if you go one and done.
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I suspect in some cases they do the seeding first and justification later.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I think it's BS if the SECT has any say in it at all. 2 years ago we won it and it didn't mean anything for seeding, and in 2008 it turned out if we had won the SECT we will would have ended with a #2 seed. So if it doesn't matter if you win, it shouldn't matter if you go one and done.
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We were a 2 seed in 08 though right?
 
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Christian Lowe said:
If we lose to Kentucky or are one and done in conference tournament, it’s Arizona’s.
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Probably, but in truth, it shouldn't be necessary. The argument before this gauntlet was that AZ had more quad 1 wins or wins vs ranked opponents. Seem to recall a number 8-3 vs 5-5, but that's certainly not the case any longer. We win vs UK Saturday and the SECT shouldn't matter. Can't recall the year, but we were told that our run in the SECT wasn't really considered as it wasn't something the committee looks at. Everyone says the hay is in the barn by Friday anyway. There are so many metrics out there to choose from and there's nothing I've seen in terms of a set criteria that the committee uses. They can literally pick and choose the metric they want to seed teams as they want. I know folks say that the investigative arm is separate from the selection committee, but there's no way I'll be convinced that there's no bias involved in seeding ESPECIALLY when it involves UT. At the end of the day, I think we end up out west with Zona regardless. Doesn't matter all that much if we're the 1 or 2. What I'll be looking at is who gets the top #1 seed which I assume will be our potential opponent in a final 4 game. Has to be UConn or Houston I suspect.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Probably, but in truth, it shouldn't be necessary. The argument before this gauntlet was that AZ had more quad 1 wins or wins vs ranked opponents. Seem to recall a number 8-3 vs 5-5, but that's certainly not the case any longer. We win vs UK Saturday and the SECT shouldn't matter. Can't recall the year, but we were told that our run in the SECT wasn't really considered as it wasn't something the committee looks at. Everyone says the hay is in the barn by Friday anyway. There are so many metrics out there to choose from and there's nothing I've seen in terms of a set criteria that the committee uses. They can literally pick and choose the metric they want to seed teams as they want. I know folks say that the investigative arm is separate from the selection committee, but there's no way I'll be convinced that there's no bias involved in seeding ESPECIALLY when it involves UT. At the end of the day, I think we end up out west with Zona regardless. Doesn't matter all that much if we're the 1 or 2. What I'll be looking at is who gets the top #1 seed which I assume will be our potential opponent in a final 4 game. Has to be UConn or Houston I suspect.
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Not to mention, their Q1 record is somewhat tainted by 3 losses outside of Q2 where we have none. Also as of this morning they have 4 losses in a 2 bid conference where we have only 3 losses in a 7 bid conference. All that said, it would be mighty obliging if the Bruins would end the whole debate by knocking them off tonight.
 
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All Vol! said:
Would DK have a shot at NPOY?
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No, it's been the usual national media "done before it started" deal. There should never be this kind of narrative during the course of an entire season, but I've seen it so often over the last 50 years that I've stopped caring about any media-decided awards.

It always reminds me of the 1984 NBA season, when the media narrative was that Bird should win his first MVP before the season even started, and Bernard King had an otherworldly season, maybe the best I've seen in all my years watching the NBA. He dragged a lottery-level Knicks team to the conference semifinals, but as expected, Bird won the MVP. Stopped caring about subjective media awards after that.

I don't even need to bring up the 1997 Heisman.
 
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All Vol! said:
Not to mention, their Q1 record is somewhat tainted by 3 losses outside of Q2 where we have none. Also as of this morning they have 4 losses in a 2 bid conference where we have only 3 losses in a 7 bid conference. All that said, it would be mighty obliging if the Bruins would end the whole debate by knocking them off tonight.
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Arizona doesn't have have three losses outside of Q2. They have three losses outside of Q1, one of which is a Q3 loss.

Tennessee has one loss outside of Q1 and zero losses outside of Q2.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Arizona doesn't have have three losses outside of Q2. They have three losses outside of Q1, one of which is a Q3 loss.

Tennessee has one loss outside of Q1 and zero losses outside of Q2.
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Ah right you are, thanks for the correction. Even so I feel those numbers tilt our way, especially if we get our 8th Q1 win Saturday.
 
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All Vol! said:
Ah right you are, thanks for the correction. Even so I feel those numbers tilt our way, especially if we get our 8th Q1 win Saturday.
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Oh, most definitely tilts in our favor. In fact, Saturday we will be playing for our 9th Q1 win. We are 8-5, currently, and as long as Florida stays in the top 30 (currently 27th). My fear is they may drop outside of it regardless of winning because they play Vandy on Saturday, who is 218th in the NET.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
We were a 2 seed in 08 though right?
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Yes, but we were in the discussion for a #1 seed and when we lost in the SECT Semis then the talk was if we had won the SECT maybe we would get a #1 seed. But after the fact the analysis is even if we had won the SECT it wouldn't have made a difference.
 
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