If Vanderbilt were to leave the SEC...

Your pick for the team to replace Vanderbilt

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allvol

allvol

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possible write-in votes:

Georgia Tech (former member)
South Florida
East Carolina
TCU
Houston
SMU
Arkansas State
La-Lafayette
La-Monroe
Troy State
UTEP
Rice
 
#2
#2
How about we have a big reunion and bring back, Ga Tech, Tulane and Suwanee? :D
 
#3
#3
I guess I should also state to keep in mind the current configuration of the SEC's divisions. Based upon who is selected... will they fit into the EAST? if they go to the WEST, which team from the West would relocate to the East? would it be better to reconfigure the SEC into a North/South alignment?
 
#4
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Originally posted by GAVol@Nov 4, 2004 3:59 PM
How about we have a big reunion and bring back, Ga Tech, Tulane and Suwanee? :D
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Ga Tech is 3rd in the SEC in all-time winning percentage (.616) with a 115-70-9 record.... better winning pct than Georgia. :blink:

However, Tulane was only 69-113-13 (.387)......

and Sewanee never won an SEC game and dropped out of the league due to a 0-37 record. Sewanee is currently a division III school and does not offer scholarships.
 
#5
#5
West Virginia - It would give the SEC a bigger marketing area, They have a fanatical fan base like most SEC schools and the East/West Split would remain the same.

EAST
Tennessee
Georgia
Florida
South Carolina
West Virginia
Kentucky

WEST
LSU
Alabama
Auburn
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Miss State


Georgia Tech would be another viable option but getting them away from the ACC would be extremely hard.
 
#6
#6
There was some talk during the recent ACC acquisitions that they may approach South Carolina, as a former member, for their 12th. If that had happened, there was talk that the SEC would then get Georgia Tech back.

As it turned out, Boston College became the 12th member of the ACC.

I think Kentucky-West Virginia could turn into a little rivalry.

There would be alot of pressure from Kentucky to get a school like Louisville into the league. They already have a built-in rivalry and fit into the current SEC 'states'.

I also think Marshall would make a good addition. However, Marshall does not have the tradition that I suppose that Louisville and West Virginia do?
 
#7
#7
Guys, you might aswell remove MTSU from that list. I'm an MTSU grad and from what I've heard from the Alumni association, they might be demoted from D-1 due to lack of attendance.

 
#8
#8
My vote would go on Southern Miss. They have been a good quality program through the years playing in a second tier confrence. Imagine how much better they could be in the SEC. I would put them into the west and move Bama to the east.
 
#9
#9
Originally posted by BigDaddyCanes@Nov 4, 2004 5:24 PM
Guys, you might aswell remove MTSU from that list.  I'm an MTSU grad and from what I've heard from the Alumni association, they might be demoted from D-1 due to lack of attendance.
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That's a shame. I hope its just a trick to bring more fans to the games? They've pretty much taken over as the dominant I-A football program in the Nashville/Murfreesboro area. They have not done too bad since they moved up to I-A either, considering this is their 4th year and they always playing a tough out-of-conference schedule. Also, they were Co-Sun Belt Champs in 2001, the first year of full membership in I-A. And they've beaten Vanderbilt both times they have played.

They are the largest state school in Tennessee and have several players in the NFL...

They are currently 4-4 (0-1 vs BCS conf schools)....

2003 4-8 (0-4 vs BCS conf schools**)
2002 4-8 (beat Vanderbilt 21-20, 1-3 vs BCS conf schools*)
2001 8-3 (beat Vanderbilt 37-28, 2-2 vs BCS conf schools)
2000 4-5 (0-4 vs BCS conf schools)
1999 0-8 (0-3 vs BCS conf schools)

* Alabama narrowly won 39-34.
** Missouri narrowly won 41-40 (OT).

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MTSU 37, Vanderbilt 28
 
#10
#10
You are correct, I-A teams must average at least 15,000 attendance.... not ticket sales to stay in I-A.


Sep 18, 2004 FAU L 20-27 >> 13092
*Oct 9, 2004 ARKANSAS STATE W 45-17 >> 11093
*Oct 23, 2004 IDAHO W 34-14 >> 16918
*Oct 30, 2004 UTAH STATE W 21-0 >> 14208

The Blue Raiders are currently averaging 13,828. That means they must have 19,689 attend their final home game on Nov 13 to meet the minimum requirements to remain in I-A. :dunno:
 
#11
#11
I wouldn't consider WV a Southern state. I am a little biased, but I voted for Memphis. I would love to have a bunch of SEC teams coming here to Memphis to play every year.
 
#13
#13
Seems like Memphis might be a decent choice:

Usually a pretty decent team (they've been known to give us fits. . .or worse).

OK stadium. OK city (I know there's a lot to do there, let's not revive the "visiting Memphis" post. . . .).

In-state rival for UT, where home games wouldn't be 95% for the visitors in Orange.

Central location.

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On a few of the others:

Mississippi already has two sub-par teams in the SEC (barring last year's Eli). Don't give 'em three.

WV is a little far off from the rest of the field. Aren't they North of the Mason-Dixon line? They're out. Damn northerners.

MTSU had a flicker of D-1 hype, but has faded quickly (see former post re: attendance).

Louisville might be a decent choice, but somehow, creating a "rival" for a crappy team with another crappy team is quite unexciting.

GT might be the team closest to competing with the perennial SEC powerhouses, but again, would they leave the SEC?

UAB, UCF, Tulane, and La. Tech would be cannon fodder.

No mention of North Carolina? I know they wear baby-blue, but look at 'em beating Miami (Big Daddy, you out there???). And my, it would make the conference so, well. . . .so, so symmetric!
 

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UNC would be interesting, but no way anybody is leaving the ACC right now, especially one of those Tobacco Road schools.

Since we're having pipe dreams, why don't we just merge with the ACC to form the first super conference. We then play almost exclusively within the conference and with all those major markets and natural rivalries, we could then negotiate a mega TV deal and use it as leverage to tell the BCS to kiss our ass and force the NCAA to allow us to play a 13th game, the Super South Championship Game which would no doubt be a big money game. :cool:
 
#16
#16
Forget Memphis, I know the UT fans there would want it but they are at best a 2nd rate team and if your going to replace Vandy the only Logical ones are WV and maybe GT. The replacement needs to add market share and neither Memphis nor Louisville do that. With WV you get into WV, Virginia, Maryland, Penn
 
#18
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If West Virginia is not part of the South then Neither is Virginia or Kentucky.
 
#19
#19
Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Nov 5, 2004 1:11 AM
Seems like Memphis might be a decent choice:

Usually a pretty decent team (they've been known to give us fits. . .or worse).

OK stadium. OK city (I know there's a lot to do there, let's not revive the "visiting Memphis" post. . . .).

In-state rival for UT, where home games wouldn't be 95% for the visitors in Orange.

Central location.

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On a few of the others:

Mississippi already has two sub-par teams in the SEC (barring last year's Eli). Don't give 'em three.

WV is a little far off from the rest of the field. Aren't they North of the Mason-Dixon line? They're out. Damn northerners.

MTSU had a flicker of D-1 hype, but has faded quickly (see former post re: attendance).

Louisville might be a decent choice, but somehow, creating a "rival" for a crappy team with another crappy team is quite unexciting.

GT might be the team closest to competing with the perennial SEC powerhouses, but again, would they leave the SEC?

UAB, UCF, Tulane, and La. Tech would be cannon fodder.

No mention of North Carolina? I know they wear baby-blue, but look at 'em beating Miami (Big Daddy, you out there???). And my, it would make the conference so, well. . . .so, so symmetric!
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Good one Kiddiedoc.....I guess the lost to UNC was about as embarrasing as Tennesee's loss to Memphis a few years back. Every good team has them.
 
#20
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Originally posted by BigDaddyCanes+Nov 4, 2004 11:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BigDaddyCanes @ Nov 4, 2004 11:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kiddiedoc@Nov 5, 2004 1:11 AM
Seems like Memphis might be a decent choice:

Usually a pretty decent team (they&#39;ve been known to give us fits. . .or worse).

OK stadium.  OK city (I know there&#39;s a lot to do there, let&#39;s not revive the "visiting Memphis" post. . . .).

In-state rival for UT, where home games wouldn&#39;t be 95% for the visitors in Orange.

Central location.

*    *    *

On a few of the others:

Mississippi already has two sub-par teams in the SEC (barring last year&#39;s Eli).  Don&#39;t give &#39;em three.

WV is a little far off from the rest of the field.  Aren&#39;t they North of the Mason-Dixon line?  They&#39;re out.  Damn northerners.

MTSU had a flicker of D-1 hype, but has faded quickly (see former post re: attendance).

Louisville might be a decent choice, but somehow, creating a "rival" for a crappy team with another crappy team is quite unexciting.

GT might be the team closest to competing with the perennial SEC powerhouses, but again, would they leave the SEC?

UAB, UCF, Tulane, and La. Tech would be cannon fodder.

No mention of North Carolina?  I know they wear baby-blue, but look at &#39;em beating Miami (Big Daddy, you out there???).  And my, it would make the conference so, well. . . .so, so symmetric&#33;
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Good one Kiddiedoc.....I guess the lost to UNC was about as embarrasing as Tennesee&#39;s loss to Memphis a few years back. Every good team has them. [/quote]
Dude please tell me you are not bringing up games from 8 years ago.
 
#22
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Originally posted by Memphis_Volunteer@Nov 4, 2004 11:38 PM
As far as I&#39;m concerned, WV went north about 140 years ago.
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:dlol: :eek:lol: :dlol: :eek:lol: :dlol:

(and BDCanes, just trying to stir you up -- you know we like to watch ya&#39;ll wiggle&#33;)
 
#23
#23
Sorry, but its all about money and Memphis brings nothing to the table, same with Louisville and Southern Miss brings even less due to the SEC not wanting 3 teams from 1 state.
 
#24
#24
Originally posted by Memphis_Volunteer@Nov 4, 2004 10:38 PM
I wouldn&#39;t consider WV as being in the South. GT seems like a reasonable choice also.
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As someone who has visited West Virginia many times (my brother lived there for a while).... it would definately fit with the southern culture of the other SEC schools. And before you start thinking about how far north it is..... when I lived in Bristol, TN... it was a very short drive across the corner of Virginia to get into West Virginia. The positives regarding West Virginia is they are currently the best team in the Big East (I know thats not saying much) and every 3 or 4 years it seems like they have a team that&#39;s ranked in the top 10... even playing Notre Dame for the NC back in the &#39;80s.
 
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The ACC needs Tech to keep their 12 schools... Louisville is making a move to the Big East next year, and WVU probably wouldn&#39;t leave that seeing as how some decent competition is comming in. Memphis State seems like a great choice to me&#33; Send Auburn to the East, and plop in Memphis&#33;
 
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