If UT was going to pay $3m+ for a QB......

[Gandalf]

We should have gotten

THIS GUY


Ah, what could have been...

I cant help but think if we had gotten Arch instead. Would not have worried about his loyalty (yes they would have squeezed us for money but his people know where the line is). I know he probably wanted to be out from under Peyton's shadow but had we ponied up the money, you never know (wasnt possible because we were paying Nico then).

Cant say it was a complete disaster though. Spyre getting Nico told everyone we were serious about making this work and it helped CJH begin pulling us out of a deeeeeeeep hole with recruits. Indeed, UT was the one who actual front ran the legal part for NIL to even be possible. And even fought for Nico to get paid his then outsized amount. You can tell he was grateful LOL.

And getting curb stomped by OSU was not our desired season end, we did make it to the playoffs last year so there is that. Many would say that was because of other players than Nico but I will say team effort.

Now, I honestly hope Nico only finds a place after much shenanigans and gets dropped down to $1.5m at some midwestern team desperate for relevance, and after a lackluster year gets cut by that team to blow in the wind. Then he declares early, because of course he is still listening to idiots, only to be left as an undrafted free agent.

Nico's story goes from doing great this year and then declaring early to be a first rounder to losing it all and becoming a UFA.

Like Michael Corleone said - Its nothing personal - but for the good of all NCAA, the carcass of Nico's career needs to decorate the national news so as to serve as a warning to other young people not to take the stupid path.

 

[Behr]

 

[butchna]

He wasn’t a possibility.

 

[Elhanan]

How much is he getting paid in Texas?

 

[sonofUT62]

I’m not sure there was ever a number where he ended up here. At the best we were 3rd- probably 4th and maybe he never spent a day considering us.

 

[TheVolsFrog]

TN wasn't an option as Arch didn't want to follow Peyton or Eli. Family already had money too so there wasn't the desperation to sign with the highest bidder

 

[LWSVOL]

We should have gotten

THIS GUY
View attachment 734677

Ah, what could have been...

I cant help but think if we had gotten Arch instead. Would not have worried about his loyalty (yes they would have squeezed us for money but his people know where the line is). I know he probably wanted to be out from under Peyton's shadow but had we ponied up the money, you never know (wasnt possible because we were paying Nico then).

Cant say it was a complete disaster though. Spyre getting Nico told everyone we were serious about making this work and it helped CJH begin pulling us out of a deeeeeeeep hole with recruits. Indeed, UT was the one who actual front ran the legal part for NIL to even be possible. And even fought for Nico to get paid his then outsized amount. You can tell he was grateful LOL.

And getting curb stomped by OSU was not our desired season end, we did make it to the playoffs last year so there is that. Many would say that was because of other players than Nico but I will say team effort.

Now, I honestly hope Nico only finds a place after much shenanigans and gets dropped down to $1.5m at some midwestern team desperate for relevance, and after a lackluster year gets cut by that team to blow in the wind. Then he declares early, because of course he is still listening to idiots, only to be left as an undrafted free agent.

Nico's story goes from doing great this year and then declaring early to be a first rounder to losing it all and becoming a UFA.

Like Michael Corleone said - Its nothing personal - but for the good of all NCAA, the carcass of Nico's career needs to decorate the national news so as to serve as a warning to other young people not to take the stupid path.

his current NIL value is at 6 million plus....

 

[WillisWG]

If there were a rule where a school could pay a player he would be a great choice, however The University of Tennessee can not pay players nor can ay other school. Revenue sharing will change that but NIL deals are done with either Collective or through a Sports Agency such as Spyre Sports.

Tennessee Athletics Name, Image and Likeness (NIL) Information & Guidance

Tennessee Athletics Name, Image and Likeness (NIL) Information & Guidance

utsports.com

Name, Image, Likeness

Name, Image, Likeness

www.ncaa.org

​

What are the regulations surrounding NIL?

• NCAA rules allow athletes to receive compensation for use of their NIL; however, NIL activities may not be used to compensate an athlete for athletics participation or achievement (i.e., pay-for-play). Regulations surrounding NIL also vary by jurisdiction and organization. Some state governments and schools have implemented rules allowing athletes to profit from their NIL, while others have restrictions or are in the process of developing policies

 

[cdb88]

Arch just turned down 11.5 million offer from Alabama.

 

[Gandalf]

his current NIL value is at 6 million plus....

Oh, I am aware that is his NIL value NOW but IIRC what he got going in was $3.2m - NOW that he came out and was a proven AAA QB, his money goes up, no doubt. But also, I have to believe had we gotten Arch, he comes from a family who both understands the business of football but also understand LOYALTY. Also that the real money is in getting to the NFL where you can get that second contract. Nico's family clearly doesnt get that.

Problem with Nico is that he is asking for more but did NOT prove himself this year. Arch generally looked amazing for his first year. Nico, not so much - not bad, just not great.

And I know he wouldnt have come here anyway just because of the shadow of Peyton but still, a man can wish.

 

[LWSVOL]

If there were a rule where a school could pay a player he would be a great choice, however The University of Tennessee can not pay players. Revenue sharing will change that but NIL deals are done with either Collective or through a Sports Agency such as Spyre Sports.

Tennessee Athletics Name, Image and Likeness (NIL) Information & Guidance

Tennessee Athletics Name, Image and Likeness (NIL) Information & Guidance

utsports.com

Name, Image, Likeness

Name, Image, Likeness

www.ncaa.org

​

What are the regulations surrounding NIL?

• NCAA rules allow athletes to receive compensation for use of their NIL; however, NIL activities may not be used to compensate an athlete for athletics participation or achievement (i.e., pay-for-play). Regulations surrounding NIL also vary by jurisdiction and organization. Some state governments and schools have implemented rules allowing athletes to profit from their NIL, while others have restrictions or are in the process of developing policies

that is also the law in the State of Tennessee passed by the legislature.

 

[WillisWG]

that is also the law in the State of Tennessee passed by the legislature.

Yep and surprisingly not a bad one as written

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Like Nico, Arch's family was extremely involved in his recruiting. I recall seeing Archie saying something like "we're not going to let them turn his high school years into a circus." They kept colleges away until they felt Arch was ready to start looking and making HIS choice.

It was not their first rodeo with a highly sought after QB. That's a huge advantage over most QBs who aren't part of a QB dynasty.

If I were lucky enough to have a 5* QB in my family, I'd try to seek out the Manning family for advice, particularly Archie who seems to have his head about him despite having it nearly torn off a few times.

They are the model for: you've got the talent and you don't have to let the process chew you up. Say no. Do everything at your pace, not their pace.

 

[jasonvol18]

We should have gotten

THIS GUY
View attachment 734677

Ah, what could have been...

I cant help but think if we had gotten Arch instead. Would not have worried about his loyalty (yes they would have squeezed us for money but his people know where the line is). I know he probably wanted to be out from under Peyton's shadow but had we ponied up the money, you never know (wasnt possible because we were paying Nico then).

Cant say it was a complete disaster though. Spyre getting Nico told everyone we were serious about making this work and it helped CJH begin pulling us out of a deeeeeeeep hole with recruits. Indeed, UT was the one who actual front ran the legal part for NIL to even be possible. And even fought for Nico to get paid his then outsized amount. You can tell he was grateful LOL.

And getting curb stomped by OSU was not our desired season end, we did make it to the playoffs last year so there is that. Many would say that was because of other players than Nico but I will say team effort.

Now, I honestly hope Nico only finds a place after much shenanigans and gets dropped down to $1.5m at some midwestern team desperate for relevance, and after a lackluster year gets cut by that team to blow in the wind. Then he declares early, because of course he is still listening to idiots, only to be left as an undrafted free agent.

Nico's story goes from doing great this year and then declaring early to be a first rounder to losing it all and becoming a UFA.

Like Michael Corleone said - Its nothing personal - but for the good of all NCAA, the carcass of Nico's career needs to decorate the national news so as to serve as a warning to other young people not to take the stupid path.

We were NEVER getting Arch.

 

[WillisWG]

Oh, I am aware that is his NIL value NOW but IIRC what he got going in was $3.2m - NOW that he came out and was a proven AAA QB, his money goes up, no doubt. But also, I have to believe had we gotten Arch, he comes from a family who both understands the business of football but also understand LOYALTY. Also that the real money is in getting to the NFL where you can get that second contract. Nico's family clearly doesnt get that.

Problem with Nico is that he is asking for more but did NOT prove himself this year. Arch generally looked amazing for his first year. Nico, not so much - not bad, just not great.

And I know he wouldnt have come here anyway just because of the shadow of Peyton but still, a man can wish.

It's all about being likeable and marketable, his Uncles know those ropes.

 

[ToineMac]

Why do you assume his family is any less ruthless than Nico's? Eli was drafted by a team and they refused to go there and said as much publicly. If you think Nico was a circus i can imagine what unhappy Mannings could do

 

[CAVPUT]

his current NIL value is at 6 million plus....

 

[HeuperDrive]

It’s long past time to move on from Arch. He was never coming here, and he never will be coming here. And that’s alright.

 

[dduncan4163]

TN wasn't an option as Arch didn't want to follow Peyton or Eli. Family already had money too so there wasn't the desperation to sign with the highest bidder

Great points

 

[wmcovol]

I’m not sure there was ever a number where he ended up here. At the best we were 3rd- probably 4th and maybe he never spent a day considering us.

Tennessee hadn’t won big in 20 years, we had a new coach that had never coached at this level before (Sark had)& had NCAA issues hanging over the program. He never considered Tennessee.

 

[OrangeWave2]

Manning went to Texas because Sark runs a pro-style offense that’s often used in the NFL.

There are no NFL teams doing up or no tempo.

 

[IndianaVol]

Manning went to Texas because Sark runs a pro-style offense that’s often used in the NFL.

There are no NFL teams doing up or no tempo.

1000 percent !!!
For Arch it's never been about the NIL money.
It's been about legacy.

Make a decent mark in college while learning the game and move up to destroy the records your uncles set in the league.

 

[OrangeTsar]

We should have gotten

THIS GUY
View attachment 734677

Ah, what could have been...

I cant help but think if we had gotten Arch instead. Would not have worried about his loyalty (yes they would have squeezed us for money but his people know where the line is). I know he probably wanted to be out from under Peyton's shadow but had we ponied up the money, you never know (wasnt possible because we were paying Nico then).

Cant say it was a complete disaster though. Spyre getting Nico told everyone we were serious about making this work and it helped CJH begin pulling us out of a deeeeeeeep hole with recruits. Indeed, UT was the one who actual front ran the legal part for NIL to even be possible. And even fought for Nico to get paid his then outsized amount. You can tell he was grateful LOL.

And getting curb stomped by OSU was not our desired season end, we did make it to the playoffs last year so there is that. Many would say that was because of other players than Nico but I will say team effort.

Now, I honestly hope Nico only finds a place after much shenanigans and gets dropped down to $1.5m at some midwestern team desperate for relevance, and after a lackluster year gets cut by that team to blow in the wind. Then he declares early, because of course he is still listening to idiots, only to be left as an undrafted free agent.

Nico's story goes from doing great this year and then declaring early to be a first rounder to losing it all and becoming a UFA.

Like Michael Corleone said - Its nothing personal - but for the good of all NCAA, the carcass of Nico's career needs to decorate the national news so as to serve as a warning to other young people not to take the stupid path.

If we ever play against a Nico led team…..for at least those 60 minutes, it will be ALL personal

 

[volfeeva]

Just for giggles I tired to see what other top schools were paying their QB's and it's not easily found . One site said Carson Beck was getting $4 million at Georgia, Quinn Ewers was getting $6 million at Texas, but not sure if that is for 1 year or for their 3 year contract total. Ohio St seemed to be paying $1.5 million with other endorsements to add on . I was trying to see where Nico's agents got the idea to seek more than what he was getting. IF one school is paying Carson Beck $4 million, maybe that is what Nico's agent was trying to match ? Seems like the salaries should be out there for all schools.

 

[MontyPython]

Arch just turned down 11.5 million offer from Alabama.

Holy Jebus. Didn’t think this could possibly be true so I googled it and there it is.

Mind boggling.

Also, how much are swimmers making at UT these days… still at $0.50?