If TN is lagging in NIL deals can someone explain why?

#27
#27
Because we haven’t been good in a long time. Companies/boosters probably don’t wanna be giving away money to a team that hasn’t reached a bowl half the time in recent years. Hopefully heupel can change that
 
#28
#28
Can you imagine a NIL spokesman deal between an athlete and, say, a bail bondsman or DUI attorney? Miami maybe?
 
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Hawkeye4588 said:
The University still can not pay the players, correct? So this is not a UT issue. Other than the Haslams how much big money donors do we have? Maybe Malibu, Mastercraft, Sea ray, Scripps, Hackney, Teamhealth, and some of the other larger businesses can chip in but are they willing to give millions every year? Would you be more willing to buy a Mastercraft if you saw Hooker advertising for it?
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Don't forget about Pilot and Sling TV! Strange Sling TV doesn't have an NIL since every ad they have on TV has a shot of Vol football players!!!!
 
#31
#31
Swain went out of his way last week, or the week before, to say UT is NOT hurting with NIL. The kids are making money. Even the ones not playing.
 
#32
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brockytop said:
I doubt Pruitt & Co were cheating off their own funds. Seems like for the business community an opportunity for some ROI off the field makes more financial sense than funding bagmen.

And yes, I get there is a bit of risk involved with public deals considering a kid representing your business does something stupid. However, that doesn’t seem to be stopping NIL’s at other programs.
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Just wrong. Pruitt and co. were most likely cheating off their own funds. If you are a crappy coach getting 4 M annually for doing nothing and your success depends on how successfully you put a few bucks into Big Mac bags and disperse them.
Connect the dots - that's why UT hasn't paid him --- again connecting the dots.
 
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utvolpj said:
Iirc the average deal was less than $500. What makes you think we're lagging?
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Really? Thats pretty affordable. I wonder if I can get one of them to legally change their name to mine so I can see it on a UT jersey during a game and yell "look at me go!".
 
#34
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SGMVols said:
Businesses are going to think twice about giving out big deals to these kids after seeing big names like Spencer Rattler flop on the field this year. They’re not allowed to condition deals on a player’s performance or enrollment by NCAA rules. So if the kid busts and they don’t see the ROI they hoped for, they’re SOL.
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I see the point, but it is also not different than a school throwing a ton of money at a coach and/or a pro team. They do it in hope that it pays off. I think it will still happen, and bust will happen each year as well, it hasn't stopped the other two examples. LOL
 
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Hawkeye4588 said:
The University still can not pay the players, correct? So this is not a UT issue. Other than the Haslams how much big money donors do we have? Maybe Malibu, Mastercraft, Sea ray, Scripps, Hackney, Teamhealth, and some of the other larger businesses can chip in but are they willing to give millions every year? Would you be more willing to buy a Mastercraft if you saw Hooker advertising for it?
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I have never been into Speedboats. However, if Hooker was the local spokesperson for someone like Bass Cat? I would seriously think about upgrading my fishing toys.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
The biggest pile of money out there with some potential ability to legally add some deals is the Dish Network/Sling TV guy. You don't have to use many fingers to count the number of commercials that play all over TV that have NOT included a clip with UT athletics footage. Not sure if he is motivated to do so or not, but he could pay guys for use of their image I WOULD THINK.

Not sure of FEDX kingpinns sports heritage. Could feature several schools if desired,

Don't know the rules, but some small deals seem practical for players EVERYWHERE from appearances at car lots. Ken Rice hired guys before some rules were put in place 50 years ago.

Cracker Barrel? Little Debbie? Dollywood? All kinds of other Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg attractions always trying to get an edge. I am sure there are others out there that could get involved with lower end deals where pictures or appearances have value. Will be interesting to follow the growth of this whole NIL deal.
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I am sure if you visit a friend in Texas, and watched those same channels from their TV? You will see Longhorns or Aggies. What you may have not noticed while watching the cable channels lately? They are starting to include a few local ads from your area from time to time. Rusty Wallace's car dealerships are one I have noticed doing that. Not just on your local CBS, NBS, ABC or Fox channels. The Vols commercials you are seeing are not played nation wide. Just in our area.
 
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jeff1vol said:
Places like Tejas A$M have "programs" in place that allows for business relationships to be built privately (via alumni mostly). In other words... most other big time schools have agents (alumni/interested business owners) that will reach out to prospective players to discuss deals available, etc. The "rule" states that the AD of each university cannot be the mediator between the athlete and the sponsor. I HOPE that UT is doing the same. But I doubt it.
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This is year 1, so I think everyone is figuring out what can and cannot be done under this rule. What we are seeing right now is probably minimal. In the next two or three years? It will probably grow into something more.
 
#39
#39
If it helps……for the next 4 or 5 star they sign, I’ll give that player my Netflix password.

I’ll also hand over my Hulu password to the next 3 star who signs.
 
#41
#41
The law in Tennessee regarding NIL doesn't go into effect until Jan 2022, so were aren't doing any deals until next season is what I've heard.
 
#42
#42
Some state legislatures had to change the laws to allow it, some went into effect in summer, but Tennessee had to wait until next January. Seems lime governor could have done it by executive order but maybe he couldn't for legal reasons.
 
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TNnative said:
I am sure if you visit a friend in Texas, and watched those same channels from their TV? You will see Longhorns or Aggies. What you may have not noticed while watching the cable channels lately? They are starting to include a few local ads from your area from time to time. Rusty Wallace's car dealerships are one I have noticed doing that. Not just on your local CBS, NBS, ABC or Fox channels. The Vols commercials you are seeing are not played nation wide. Just in our area.
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Don’t know if they are regionally adjusted or not, but it was still UT on Mobile TV on Thanksgiving day. He could still elect to use current players and pay them if so since he is from Oak Ridge.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Don’t know if they are regionally adjusted or not, but it was still UT on Mobile TV on Thanksgiving day. He could still elect to use current players and pay them if so since he is from Oak Ridge.
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Uh huh. Of course it is. And that is because just about everything has become regionally adjusted. As a friend of mine I used to work with used to say, "We have the technology!"
 
#46
#46
Other than Fulkerson and number 2 on the football team, a lot of these NIL deals are kept private,
 
#47
#47
I think NIL deals make teams like Georgia Tech , Miami , Ohio State and USC much more appealing but it’s also gonna hurt schools in small city’s such as Virginia Tech
 
#49
#49
I thought we had players that had a NIL deal from McDonalds.

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TNnative said:
Uh huh. Of course it is. And that is because just about everything has become regionally adjusted. As a friend of mine I used to work with used to say, "We have the technology!"
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You are probably correct but I’m pretty sure that when my wife and I traveled out west this summer we saw Dish/Sling commercials several times and they always had a shot of the Vols in action. Maybe I just dreamed that after hitting the evening cocktails too hard. We were out there just over three weeks primarily in Colorado, Utah and Arizona. Again maybe I just dreamed that.
 
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