If not Dooley - then who?

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UT IE 95 said:
Garrrrrrrr - surley eys jests!
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Dudleys87 said:
1) He will do better at UT simply because the staff is better and the resources are far better.
2) Two nut case hires back to back? No. How receptive of Scientology would the Alumni be?
3) We got who we got back him.
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The stuff I've read on this board about Kiffin is worse then what you will find about either of them.

chavisut said:
LMAO, especially at Guz Malzahn.
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You didn't watch the Auburn game last year or the Arkansas game in 06? Nobody was laughing then.
 
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oklavol said:
You didn't watch the Auburn game last year or the Arkansas game in 06? Nobody was laughing then.
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You don't like the Dooley hire but you want a guy that was coaching high school football five years ago as our head coach. Yes, that's very laughable.

That Arkansas game had more to do with D-Mac than Gus.
 
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All this SEC vs PAC- 10 talk realllly makes me wanna beat Oregon that much more! I know they are pre season top 10 and we have a new coach and blah blah blah...but they are coming to Knoxvegas in humid September, without their starting QB so IMO we have a shot!
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#107
#107
Come on guys I mean the guy had to take over a team who had lost their coach some time have been coached by three different coaches in three years. Sorry but that would be difficult for anybody. Lets see how he gets through september if he goes 3-1 or 4-0 in september what you'll doubters going to say then? Atleast if he beats flordia and alabama this year he already did something that Lane Kiffin didn't do. COME ON PEOPLE lets give him a chance. I thought the hire was kinda surprising to me I can say that, but he has a number three class from 06, a top ten class from 09 and a number nine class from 10. He can only coach the team, the players have to play for him. He has a experience Wide-out core, Two experience and great Defensive line player, and experience Linebacker in Nick Reiez. Also Jazen Jackson is a BEAST and not forgetting Darren Miles. I'll say that the O-line is inexperience and D-line is a lil inexperience beside the two senior, And two QB's who are inexperience. All and all I really feel that We are going to be way better then all this "experience" experts analysis are saying. You all watch and believe I am not going to down my team this year I got faith if you are a true Vols fan you'll have faith also IF NOT THEN TURN IN YOUR TENNESSEE VOLS FAN CARD NOW!!!!!!! :clapping:
 
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chavisut said:
You don't like the Dooley hire but you want a guy that was coaching high school football five years ago as our head coach. Yes, that's very laughable.

That Arkansas game had more to do with D-Mac than Gus.
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No you would prefer a guy who has had 2 losing seasons out of 3, while I prefer a guy who hasn't had had a losing season anywhere he's been.
 
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Panthro said:
Maybe you just need to hold your horses. Chizik had a lowsy record before going to Auburn, and he did well with his first season. Dooley somehow salvaged a good recruiting class in light of the disaster we were in, and he's not embarrassed us yet like CLK had done a dozen times by May of 2009. Seriously, just chill and give the guy a chance to blow it before you get all pessimistic. He's the head football coach at Tennessee. As of right now, he's undefeated. That means I'm behind him 100%!
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Stop using the Chizik argument. If you want Gene Chizik, maybe you will like this hire. However, Chizik won't be winning any titles.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
1. Ok Hat.
2. What college has ever done that?
3. How do you know?
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Who has needed to? And I don't know for sure, but I feel confident that we could have pulled it off. A lot of money has to be convincing to a lot of people.


thegeneralneyland said:
Um...really
1. Easy to win at La Tech, you must be out of your freaking mind.
2. No its not better to sacrifice a recruiting class. Instead of being set back potentially two years with a new coach, sacrificing a recruiting class will kill you for about 5. If you doubt, look at what happened to Bama in just losing a bunch of scholarships. They were irrelevant for a decade.
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First of all, it's easy to win in the WAC. Maybe not after 3 years, but why the hell make the hire before he proves anything at such a dismal level? Secondly, it's far better to lose a recruiting class if you get a much better coach, period. Bama was irrelevant because they hired incompetent guys consistently. Miami had severe probation, and they survived by hiring a great coach. If Dooley doesn't turn out to be anything special, UT could very well go another decade without an SEC title.

You guys are killing me. Either be a fan and support your coach, or support another team. You wanted Fulmer fired, you wanted someone young and brash so we got Kiffin (who by the way hadn't won on any level as a HC either), he burned us, now we have Dooley. DD is quiet and goes about his business and come this fall we will see what kind of coach he is. You Dooley haters probably are the same people that were hating on Pearl until we made the Elite 8.
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I'll be a fan, support the coach, and support the team. However, I have very little confidence and feel no reason to hide that so other people feel more secure about their blind optimism. I don't hate Dooley, but I find it very hard to imagine him having much success.
 
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oklavol said:
No you would prefer a guy who has had 2 losing seasons out of 3, while I prefer a guy who hasn't had had a losing season anywhere he's been.
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Wow, he won big at the high school level in Arkansas. Dooley wouldn't have even been in my top 10 for potential coaches. However, I'll take him over Gus.
 
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SGMVols said:
He failed to sign any DTs other than John Brown, who was already committed under Kiffin, and that guy he poached from Valdosta State. That's going to hurt later.
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Not likely. With normal attrition and the signing number restrictions, the guy will probably be gone before his scholarship would be needed for someone else.

Between Fulmer and Kiffin, the roster is in really bad shape. I know Kiffin was rebuilding it... but he had a hand in tearing it down too.
 
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chavisut said:
Wow, he won big at the high school level in Arkansas. Dooley wouldn't have even been in my top 10 for potential coaches. However, I'll take him over Gus.
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The OP's question was who would you have hired instead of Dooley (a coach who would not turn down the job). Not name 10 coaches you would rather have, that's easy.

Guz's resume is a lot more impressive then 17-20 in 3 season at La Tech.
 
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oklavol said:
The OP's question was who would you have hired instead of Dooley (a coach who would not turn down the job). Not name 10 coaches you would rather have, that's easy.

Guz's resume is a lot more impressive then 17-20 in 3 season at La Tech.
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I only said said because you acted like I was some big Dooley supporter.

I guess you're right, 0-0 is more impressive than 17-20.
 
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chavisut said:
I only said said because you acted like I was some big Dooley supporter.

I guess you're right, 0-0 is more impressive than 17-20.
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Malzahn was 10-4 at Arkansas in 2006 and 8-5 at Auburn in 2009.

Hamilton's first choice, Will Muschamp, has never been a head coach either, so I guess he would have been a bad choice too.
 
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How was kiffin impressive at ut? He got the job with a terrible resume, went 7-6 with some bad, blowout losses. Potential? Maybe, but he didn't do much last year.
 
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oklavol said:
Malzahn was 10-4 at Arkansas in 2006 and 8-5 at Auburn in 2009.

Hamilton's first choice, Will Muschamp, has never been a head coach either, so I guess he would have been a bad choice too.
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Muschamp would have been bad, and for the reported amounts we were offering, it was insane.
 
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#122
It is nice to see that special ed. classes now have the internet.
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#123
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FlVolDoc said:
I read alot of folks don't think Dooley was the right guy for UT. I thought it would be interesting to get some opinions. If you think Dooley was NOT the right guy then tell the rest of us:
1) Why
2) Who would have been better
3) How would we have been able to get that guy
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I'm not anti-Dooley so I'll apologize upfront if I'm disqualified from making this post - Larry Fedora; though I think he just recently received a contract extension.
 
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chavisut said:
He's 0-0 as a HC.
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So was Belichick in 94 when he took over the browns. I guess that would have been another bad choice using your reasoning. :rolleyes:

Most head coaches were coordinators before they became head coaches.
 
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oklavol said:
So was Belichick in 94 when he took over the browns. I guess that would have been another bad choice using your reasoning. :rolleyes:

Most head coaches were coordinators before they became head coaches.
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Belichick had spend 15 years in the league and had two Super Bowl rings as a DC on his resume.

I wouldn't have a problem with taking a coordinator. I wouldn't want one that was chaperoning a prom five years ago.
 
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